Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Did Saddam Hussein gas his own people?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:40 PM
Original message
Did Saddam Hussein gas his own people?
That is generally accepted as fact here in the US. I have heard questions about it because during the Iran-Iraq war, both sides were using gas and it was difficult to tell who was killed by whom. I read this article that stated that there really is no evidence that Saddam gassed his own people. Thoughts?

http://www.polyconomics.com/searchbase/11-18-98.html

snip -

Having looked at all of the evidence that was available to us, we find it impossible to confirm the State Departments claim that gas was used in this instance. To begin with there were never any victims produced. International relief organizations who examined the Kurds -- in Turkey where they had gone for asylum -- failed to discover any. Nor were there ever any found inside Iraq. The claim rests solely on testimony of the Kurds who had crossed the border into Turkey, where they were interviewed by staffers of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

more-
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:40 PM
Response to Original message
1. It's true.. and he did it with weapons
we sold him to use on the Iranians...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:52 PM
Response to Original message
2. No doubt about it. Saddam was an asshole. "Rumour" at the time had
it as a possible Iranian gassing of Kurds. It was saddam. He is a monster in so many ways.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:55 PM
Response to Original message
3. Most of the research I have read has it that the gas that
was used was the same that Iran was using at the time, and the dead were most likely "collateral damage" from the exchange.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:59 PM
Response to Original message
4. No doubt. He did!
As the other posters have said, Saddam used the gas on the Kurds. And this was back in the eighties. the effects of that gassing are still being felt by the surviving population in that area of Iraq. The chemicals used was acutally a cocktail of agents and its effects, aside from the immediate victims, are almost radiological in nature. Persistent and long lasting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:03 PM
Response to Original message
5. I read on one of the DU Karen Huges blunder threads it was 5000
not 100,000 or "upwards of 200,000" or "over 300,000" as Karen is going around saying nor as most Americans believe.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. That's just one village
There were 40 documented attacks, many villages over a period of a few years. And the figure is a low of 5,000 and high of 24,000, in the one village. If the US did that, even accidentally, the same left who are defending Saddam's attacks would be in complete hysterics, and rightfully so.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. Absolutely. I wasn't saying it was only 5,000 but it wasn't what
Karen Hughes claims or what most Americans believe.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:14 PM
Response to Original message
6. mustard gas, nerve agent, or cyanide
He definitely used mustard gas and nerve agents. The question is who caused the deaths in Halabjah, Iraq or Iran. It doesn't particularly matter because there were many, many attacks and Iraq has already admitted to using mustard gas. That they were in the middle of a war is a bit of a lame excuse too. Our military has been lamblasted for the chemicals we've used that have hurt and killed Iraqi civilians. The "we're in the middle of a war" excuse doesn't wash with the left when it's the US doing the maiming and killing. I don't know why people feel the need to defend Saddam.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. I certainly wasn't defending him. I had heard different stories and I
wanted to know the truth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul 26th 2014, 01:02 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC