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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:09 PM
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WHO IS Judy Miller?
Edited on Mon Oct-17-05 03:09 PM by Crisco
from http://talkingpointsmemo.com/ courtesy Josh Marshall:

"More on Judy Miller's special embed agreement, from Frank Foer's piece in New York magazine from the summer of 2004 ...

According to Pomeroy, as well as an editor at the Times, Miller had helped negotiate her own embedding agreement with the Pentagon—an agreement so sensitive that, according to one Times editor, Rumsfeld himself signed off on it.

...

As Miller covered MET Alpha, it became increasingly clear that she had ceased to respect the boundaries between being an observer and a participant.

...

When Colonel Richard McPhee ordered MET Alpha to pull back from a search mission and regroup in the town of Talil, Miller disagreed vehemently with the decision—and let her opinions be loudly known. The Washington Post’s Howard Kurtz reprinted a note in which she told public-affairs officers that she would write negatively about his decision if McPhee didn’t back down. What’s more, Kurtz reported that Miller complained to her friend Major General David Petraeus. Even though McPhee’s unit fell outside the general’s line of command, Petraeus’s rank gave his recommendation serious heft. According to Kurtz, in an account that was later denied, “McPhee rescinded his withdrawal order after Petraeus advised him to do so.”


I've been speculating for a few days that Judy may be a spook. We knew on DU years ago the CIA had plants in mainstream media. Why not the Times?
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:12 PM
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1. I don't think she's CIA, but heavily in with
the DoD. A propagandist for the Department of Defense and the Operation of Special Plans (Cheney's bunch)
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:15 PM
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3. DoD Got Their Spooks, Too
But she's definitely got something going on.

This is going to make Jayson Blair look like child's play.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 03:00 AM
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21. What's a "spook" in this context? Spy? n.t
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:20 PM
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6. She's PNAC's Gun Moll
I think she's Cheney's Special Friend.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:36 PM
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12. I think of the Office of Special Plans and her too. nm
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:46 AM
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20. What about Likkud? You think she has ties there? n.t
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:15 PM
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2. She is a Neocon shill reporter with a loud mouth
who beat the war drum for the Bush administration.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:16 PM
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4. Where Does a Simple Reporter Get Off
Calling a general and complaining about a colonel's decisions? Why would said general even listen?
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:21 PM
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7. She sounds more DoD than CIA in this story. Or higher up to
exec office.
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Kralizec Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:18 PM
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5. Everything has been infiltrated!! n/t
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:21 PM
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8. They're kinda ripping her on CNN right now...
n/t
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:22 PM
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9. Does it make sense that
she would out another agent, albeit one who is NOC, if she were in the CIA? That would pretty much mean they are cannablizing each other.

I would put my money on one of two other scenarios:
- She is a working for the military in a spook capacity
- Her ego is so out of control that she is having professional boundary issues
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:31 PM
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11. I Don't Know - Cowboys and Angels
Tom Robbins described a CIA personality type issue in one of his books, saying there are 'cowboys' and 'angels,' the cowboys being the gung-ho types. A friend of mine with security clearance says that wouldn't surprise him in the least.

And I think there's quite a bit of cannibalizing going on in those departments these days.

Both of those scenarios are workable - but why would the general have taken the call?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:49 PM
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14. There ARE factions within the See Aye Eh!
And the divide has worsened since Porter Goss crawled over there. I rather doubt morale is flying high at Langley...

This article is not new, ya need a daypass to read the whole thing, but it is very instructive when trying to understand the dynamic over there. Put it this way, if she WAS with them, someone who is fed up to here who is slaving away in that hellish environment will likely find a way to alert the media, eventually: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/11/16/cia/print.html

Nov. 16, 2004 | The current war inside the CIA began with a stolen package of bacon. During a 1981 grocery run in Langley, Va., Michael Kostiw decided against paying $2.13 for a few strips of salted, fatty pork. Unfortunately for him, his 10 years of experience as a case officer for the Central Intelligence Agency was poor training for petty thievery, and after he was caught by supermarket employees the CIA placed him on administrative leave. He opted for a quiet retirement from Langley.

But not long ago he was back -- briefly. When Porter Goss, a Republican representative from Florida and chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, became director of central intelligence on Sept. 24, he named Kostiw, his chief staffer on terrorism, as his executive director, Langley's third in command. The prospect of Kostiw, a partisan GOP Hill staffer, effectively running day-to-day affairs at the CIA was too much for some of his prospective employees to take, however. Although the agency had prevailed on the local authorities over 20 years ago to wipe Kostiw's police record clean, Walter Pincus, the veteran intelligence reporter for the Washington Post, related the long-forgotten bacon heist on Oct. 3, citing "four sources." As one former intelligence official observes -- not without a hint of admiration -- "that was a vicious leak." And it worked. Within days, a humiliated Kostiw withdrew his name from consideration for the position. Chalk up a scalp for the CIA.

These days, however, most of the scalps belong to longtime intelligence officials. Since his appointment, Goss has given his top aides -- basically, his former staff from the intelligence committee -- the green light to draw up lists of people to fire. The zeal with which Goss' enforcers are exercising their power has led to angry resignations by top CIA veterans like Stephen Kappes, who had taken over as deputy director of operations just this summer, and brought the brutal shakeup onto the front pages. The CIA's case officers and analysts, meanwhile, are extremely distressed by Goss' slashes at the professional staff. "I do nothing but talk to disgruntled and sick people there," says a recently retired senior CIA official.

And that suits the White House just fine. Many conservatives in and outside the administration, especially the neoconservatives, view the CIA as a subversive element bent on stymieing Bush's agenda. The last several months of the presidential campaign saw a series of intelligence disclosures concerning Iraq and the war on terrorism that the White House regarded as intended to derail Bush's reelection. Many agency employees believe that administration officials rewarded them for their best efforts at divining the truth about al-Qaida, Iraq, nuclear proliferation and other urgent threats to U.S. national security with derision, political pressure and blame for the mistakes of policymakers. Now, with the arrival of Goss as DCI, they see the Bush administration intent not so much on reforming the CIA as crushing it. And as is already clear, many intelligence veterans don't plan on going quietly into the night.

There's a good chance that 2005 will be the worst year ever in the history of the CIA.....
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:37 PM
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19. She could be an infiltrator of the CIA
or military intelligence.
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:27 PM
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10. we don't know what her real role is...yet
I think her "sacrifice" in going to jail, for apparently mystifying reasons, speaks volumes about what role she might have played. I posted something to this effect earlier in a reply to a top level post.

I'm wary of trying to interpret the possibilities, particularly so from this side of the pond. And I'm no seer, but, it seems possible that she "voluntarily" went down to kill off anything more far reaching.

This is developing into something HUGH111. If, as seems perfectly possible, the lid comes off the can of worms the list of those indicted (spelling?) could be pretty long. The phrase that comes to mind when I consider why everyone who is involved is crapping it is "Mutually Assured Destruction". If one goes down, all of them do, because everyone is connected to everyone else in some way.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:43 PM
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13. Question here about Judy:
Does anyone know what degree she received from Barnard? I found this when googled:

"Born in New York City, Ms. Miller grew up in Miami and Los Angeles, where she graduated from Hollywood High School. She attended Ohio State University, Barnard College and the Institute of European Studies at the University of Brussels. She has a bachelor's degree from Barnard and a masters from Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs." Link: http://provost.syr.edu/lectures/miller.asp

Am I wrong that most journalists have some sort of Journalism or Communications degree? Yet, Judy has a degree in Public and International affairs? I understand having minored in one of them, but you would think that she would have had a bit more or an emphasis on journalism.

Any know where we can get more background info on our dear Judy? I'm beginning to wonder when her Langley connections actually began.

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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:59 PM
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15. OK, I just found out her degree from Barnard was in Economics.
Is it unusual for someone to become a reporter at the "paper of record" with no communications or journalism degree?

link to info on her degree: www.worlddialogue.org/pdf/speech4.pdf

Just seems to me that someone who has a degree in economics and a masters in international affairs (which she received in Brussels) is someone who is training for the CIA - not the NYT.

Just a thought. I could be way off base, but there is just something fishy about Ms. Miller's background.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 11:08 PM
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17. Specialization in Journalism Really Isn't Necessary
Edited on Mon Oct-17-05 11:09 PM by Crisco
You need to learn to write in a style editors want, learn your pyramid, etc., but almost all of the mechanics can be learned on the job.

When Miller got hired, in the 1970s, boutique degrees were less in demand, people had much broader collegiate backgrounds. This is why a LOT of our media today sucks outright. The people working in it have only their Communications degree to bring to the table.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 07:31 PM
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16. kick nm
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:15 PM
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18. Is Judy working undercover for some other country? Is she an
undercover agent?
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