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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:39 PM
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What to do when someone tells you that you are "obssessed with politics"?
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 02:55 PM by KyndCulture
My significant other at lunch today really hurt my feelings by this statement, he went on and on ad naseum about how I never let a day go by that I don't know exactly what the headlines are on every newspaper, what's going on in the house and senate and where the president is and what he's doing.

He's RIGHT, I don't. This is also my job to know these things because I work for a media reform website. I tell him this and he says most people "clock out" at 5pm....that's when I got REALLY pissed.

But I really didn't know what to say. So I did what all obsessive compulsive people do, I went and cleaned the kitchen! LOL


Has this happened to anyone else? How did you handle it?

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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:41 PM
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1. I said, "Why aren't YOU?"
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:41 PM
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2. Tell him: "I'm making up for people like you that don't care enough."
:)
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:46 PM
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20. Exactly!
Don't be ashamed that you are on deck at the railing screaming about the iceberg in the way. We will suffer the consequences of NOT paying attention soon enough.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:01 PM
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42. That I did manage to say... and here's his buttheaded reply...
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 03:04 PM by KyndCulture
Well, har har, you care enough for the whole town.

To which I rolled my eyes at him and thought how are you enjoying these gas prices?



and kynd stormed outta the room


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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:42 PM
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64. oooh! That is a good one--I'll have to use it eom
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:42 PM
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3. What an ignorant thing for him to say
Sorry, calling it like I see it.

It's everyone's duty as a citizen to "know what the headlines are". The reason the country is so f-ed up is because people check out at 5pm.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:43 PM
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THAT is exactly what I think too...
I care this much so people can sit on the asses and watch desperate housewives and not think - and maybe just maybe we'll still get out this alive.


And it WAS ignorant. He reads the news in the morning, he worked for Moveon during the election but now it's like he's on overload and has this I don't give a fuck attitude cause whatever we do doesn't help.

I can't check out and have that attitude and I do think its ignorant.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:43 PM
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65. Oh come on lay off TV
I'm one of the most political people I know and I watch a few shows including Desperate Housewives.

You'll never get anwyone to get involved with a holy-than-thou attitude. You have to lure them in with an issue that hits home.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:45 PM
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67. tee hee hee I'm sorry.
I see you have a nerve too! I must not be the first one that pissed ya off with the Desperate Housewives comment.


I only said that (cause I've never seen the show) is because Laura Bush made a big deal of saying she watched it.

I watch TV sometimes, but mostly just movies we rent... and I quit renting documentaries... that was a bad thing.

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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:59 PM
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73. I think his attitude is understandable.........
...I mean, it's logical to think that as hard as everyone worked on the last election, it's logical to think that if all those efforts didn't pay off, that future efforts may not change anything either.

But at the same time, I also think we can't give up either! If we give up, we know things won't change. It's better to try than to give up. You gotta keep trying...........

If you ask me, the Republicans won the last election because they're better at cheating the system instead of winning a fair election. And that's not really something to be proud of.....
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:42 PM
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4. Well, I'm the same way and I don't
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 03:20 PM by babylonsister
work for a media reform website. I'm just plain ole obsessed. My SO tolerates it, and I do believe I've edumicated him!
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 06:40 PM
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85. My wife tolerated it for a while, but then
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 06:41 PM by Yupster
let me have it about 5-6 years ago.

She told me I was letting politics dominate my time, my conversations, my thinking. In short I was getting obsessed.

Since I know she has my best interests at heart, I took it in and made a conscious effort to do other things and talk about other things.

I think she was right. I have a wife and kid and job and friends and relatives and I was letting politics push other stuff away.

I'm hopefully more careful now -- in fact, she's more likely to tell me what she saw on the Daily Show than I am to tell her what I read on DU today.

So in short, maybe take the criticism as constructive and look yourself in the mirror.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:43 PM
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5. One of the duties of a citizen
is to be aware of what is going on in the country.
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jrw14125 Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:43 PM
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6. get used to it
When you have people like Neal Cavuto giving op-ed pieces on FAUXNEWS about how people just don't want to hear bad news... well, guess what? You live in a democracy, it's your job to stay informed and vote based on good information. That's how it works. If you want to be led around blindly like sheep, move to N. Korea. Or join a megachurch.

If your significant other doesn't understand that, make him or her. I know, responsibility sucks!
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:23 PM
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57. What you said,
that "if you want to be led around blindly like sheep, move to N. Korea", would be an excellent response for someone to give the next time they hear "if you don't like the way it is in the USA, why don't you move to another country". I like it.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:43 PM
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7. I get this from my husband and kids
and I tell them that some people watch soaps and I watch politics. Pretty much the same thing.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:48 PM
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69. DH got the same answer....
I said, I could be watching reality TV with you, or I could be watching politics. I prefer politics - and I get to keep you informed..
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:22 PM
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76. to me, politics is better than reality TV...........
........and much more interesting too!!
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:43 PM
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8. Yes.
My son hit me with a dose of resentment.
I told him I do it for him. It's his future, not mine. I'd be irresponsible to do otherwise.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:43 PM
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9. I hear it from Mr. Gray a hundred times a day.
In one ear....out the other.

(But he's right)
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:53 PM
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81. I hear it from my hubby too. He alternates between being really
supportive and proud of me one day, then questioning and berating me the next. The questioning and berate HAS decreased lately though. Partly because I think he is starting to understand how fucked this country is and partly because I downplay my interest at home.
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:44 PM
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10. I'm obsessed with politics
and I don't consider this an insult.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:48 PM
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24. Ignorance is bliss.
But when the shit hits the fan, all of us "obssessed" people will be picking up the pieces.
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LoKnLoD Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:44 PM
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11. I've been obsessed since the Iraq war
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 02:45 PM by LoKnLoD
and I hope impeachments happen in 2006, and Dems regain the house or senate, so I can relax and not really give a shit about politics again.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:45 PM
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12. an informed and concerned citizen is the backbone of our country
without people like you, being concerned, informed and acting as you do, on the basis of that information, our country, our way of life and our freedoms would disappear faster than a match takes to light after striking.

THANK YOU for your efforts, and never give up, never withdraw, never - damn Bush said something like that. (sorry)
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:45 PM
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13. "Politics is the heart of society...
... and I want to do what I can to make sure our collective ticker doesn't up and croak."

Of course, that statement is usually replied to with, "Why should I be obsessed about my heart? And are you going to finish that burger?"
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:45 PM
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14. Sorry your feelers got hurt.
There isn't any problem with being obsessed with politics.... until it begins to affect your relationship.

Don't let it come between you. You shouldn't have to give up what you love - in this case, politics- but one has to find a balance that works for both partners. In your case, that may simply mean finding something else to talk about at the end of the day other than politics.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:45 PM
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15. I would tell him that this should be something that he should...
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 02:49 PM by I Have A Dream
be proud of you about rather than giving you grief about. It shows that you are a compassionate person who cares about the world, and that you're not shallow.

Sorry that you had to have this happen, KyndCulture. Here's a big DU hug for you :hug:. A lot of other DUers are the same way that you are!

(By the way, I bet that the Founding "Fathers" didn't forget about things at 5:00. We always need people who are "obsessed" with politics to keep our country working at its best. Lucky you that you have a job that you love so much! :))
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:47 PM
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22. l second that hug!
:pals: Don't let the bastards getcha down!
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:45 PM
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16. yes going through that
right now. Sorry, I have no good advice. :shrug:
It's pretty icy at my house these day's.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:46 PM
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17. OUCH!
Thats harsh! Maybe he lsn't the one? Not to sound dramatlc but to me that would be huge.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:46 PM
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18. Does he have a library card?
If he doesn't, tell him to get one. If he has one, tell him to use it.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:46 PM
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19. Tell him you love America
and want a better future for the US and the world. Or better yet, just tell him that you love freedom and are doing your best to exercise it.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:47 PM
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21. Tell him
that the very fact that you are so obsessed should be a clue to him.I am going to assume here that you have not always been this way and this is a fairly recent development (last few years?). He should realize that if someone he loves and respects so much is so concerned with something, maybe he should be too. Maybe that is a clue that it is vitally important for our survival.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:50 PM
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29. EXACTLY! It is a recent thing.. well relatively recent...
I've always been an activist but I never took it to this level before....I just cannot sit here with a son turning 18 and NOT DO ANYTHING. We've been together for 7 years and I'd say it's been the last 3 that I've been this way and it gets worse everyday.

Sitting back and not doing anything is criminal in my eyes. I mostly feel like my son's life depends on my action or inaction right now and why the fuck aren't you proud of me about it? At least I care about something.

I did get really worked up about this... and there will be a discussion about it later. I know he didn't MEAN to hurt my feelings, he's a dolt about that, he never MEANS to do it.. but he hit a nerve this time. Usually I can blow him off and ignore it, but not this time - it's kinda really important to me that everyone care right now.

That is exactly how we got into this mess was people who didn't care enough to vote with a brain cell active.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:59 PM
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39. Well
(I'm sure you know this)Do try to explain it to him as calmly as possible (men are as they are...sigh). If you explain to him that since you share common values ,that being part of the reason you are together, you felt he would be concerned too/he should be concerned too, maybe he will see this as appealing to his intelligence instead of emotions and he is likely to sense respect in that (instead of feeling "talked down to"). It would be heartening for you to feel he supports your views or at least respects that it is a serious concern for you. Good luck...it is a discussion we all need to have at some point. I really believe that it comes down to this to make this crisis real to every one of us.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:48 PM
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23. Honestly?
I'd wonder about why he doesn't appreciate this extremely important part of you and love and admire you for it. Clearly this is your passion. Clearly this is your profession. Designing your life that combines your passion and your conscience to your work is admirable and should be respected. You should feel personally attacked because he is attacking you personally. In essence he is asking why you aren't someone else and I don't see how that could be kind and accepting like a SO should be.

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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:48 PM
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25. 20 responses in 5 minutes!!
I'd say you are not alone in this experience!
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:51 PM
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31. secretly I totally knew I wasn't alone - just need some good ole DU love!
I know I'm home here... as do most of us I gather!

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AValdoux Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:48 PM
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26. The ill informed people in this country
are the problem. I have to admit though, I do have to back away sometimes for my sanity. Most people don't realize the decline this country has seen in the last 5 years. To deny knowledge & information about it doesn't make it not so.

My husband thinks I'm obsessed with news, so I can say 'I told you so' to our Repub friends when things tank or go wrong.


AValdoux
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:49 PM
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27. I tell my hubby that this is who I am - get used to it
But we've been together almost 30 years. So he can just like it or lump it. This same sentiment can be expressed in a more diplomatic way.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:50 PM
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28. I have heard the same criticism from my SO
and have learned that as long as I limit my "obsession" to keeping up with what is happening without having to volunteer every piece of info I glean, she is happy. I get to do what I want, and when she hears something and wants to know more, she asks about it and I get to share my vast store of knowledge! When I was always bringing it up, she was always shutting me down. Now I never initiate, but it seems like she asks more and more. I find that if I really need discussion about these things, there are other friends who will participate or I can come here and have thousands of people to bounce ideas around with!
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:03 PM
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75. I've gone the same route with friends.
I'm single and they think my "obsession" is one of the reasons why i'm single. Personally, I would never date anyone who supported *. That is totally non-negotiable.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:50 PM
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30. Maybe he's too intellectually lazy for you n/t
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Neocondriac Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:51 PM
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32. Sometimes......
I become too obsessed with the day to day raping and pilaging of our country. But, how can we stand around and watch the assault?
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:51 PM
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33. I say I just make sure that I'm informed
My husband tells people "She's gone all political", the way you say that Aunt Bessie has lost her mind ("She's gone 'round the bend")...same tone of voice. I don't care. I had to explain the Electoral College to him, as well as inform him that the WH does not have a dome on it. He watches West wing with me, so I use that to explain who is who in the real world.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:51 PM
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34. Since it's your SO - make sure he feels loved
if ya catch my drift. And then in a few days when you've cooled off, sit him down and talk.

If it were anyone else I'd just ask why they were not a good enough citizen to be at least half as informed... LOL
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:11 PM
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49. Good advice. I second this. See my post below..
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:52 PM
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35. political obsession
Given our present circumstances I believe that being obsessed with politics is two or three steps closer to reality than being obsessed with soap operas, "reality" TV, sports, or what passes for news in the mainstream media.

Given our present circumstances an obsession with politics may almost be a duty for all conscientious human beings. I could, and do, here, among those of us who I believe have obtained a modicum of understanding of our present peril, defend such an obsession as a desperate effort at sanity in an insane world.


But, ah yes, how to respond to the unenlightened whom we live among?

How do I handle it?

Well, for one things, I guess you now find me venting to my friends and cohorts here.

Other than that, I probably don't handle it all that well--maybe that's why I spend so much time consoling myself here.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:53 PM
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36. Say: "Yes I am. Thanks for noticing."
Nothing wrong with being informed.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:53 PM
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37. "I take my citizenship seriously. Why don't you?"
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:54 PM
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38. Bad or corrupt governance effects everything essential in life - your food
your clothing, your job, your finances, your freedoms.

For some people it's the difference between life and death and the qualities involved.
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eeyore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 02:59 PM
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40. Say thank you....
Try this one on...

Thank you for noticing. I pride myself on being in touch and involved with the goings on of my country's governmental affairs. I like to think that I'm just fulfilling my part of the contract that each person has in a Democratic society.

I'm sorry if I seem obsessive to you, but we live in complex and difficult times, and it takes a lot for me to keep up with everything going on. Also, the evil bastards who are trying to take over our country don't clock out at five, so if I want to keep up I really can't either.


Hope that helps - I've been there.
-eeyore

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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:01 PM
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41. Jeez, you can come over and clean MY kitchen if you want!
Seriously, yes, this has happened to me many times. I guess my reaction would be dependent on who was saying it. I can see how it could hurt your feelings if it was your partner who said that. We expect our loved ones to respect our interests.

On the other hand, perhaps the other person is helping to remind me I need to take a step backward and create more Balance by focusing on other stuff for a while. It's all about balance, imo.

That said, I usually respond by getting defensive and then judgmental of them b/c I think they're clueless by not taking the time to be informed. Sometimes this process happens internally, and sometimes I share my thoughts out loud. This does not help to build bridges, if you know what I mean. :eyes:

Oh well. Not everyone is the same and that's OK. The important thing is that we respect our differences and try to get along.

For what it's worth, though, I personally think it's GREAT you take the time to know what's going on...AND are willing to "fight the good fight" if necessary...

This is esp. important for us as parents these days.

My two cents,
Shine
:hi:


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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:08 PM
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44. Yeah I think the thing with the school touched this off...
but too damn bad buddy... they are my kids, not his... and he has 2 of his own in Virginia but they aren't about "cannon fodder" age yet.

And I get this from a man who keeps a database on NHL players complete with graphics of their Jersies and pads.


bwahahahahahahaha



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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:07 PM
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43. Happens to me. Face it .
The obsessive compulsive thing is the problem. But remember, that being obsessive compulsive is also probably the key to your being very good at the things you do. So being obsessive compulsive is a curse and a blessing.

My significant other asked me not to talk about politics (or any of my other obsessions) after 11 p.m. That is a reasonable request. I love my significant other, so I try --- really hard. But, it isn't easy. To succeed, I have to occupy my all too busy mind with something utterly meaningless and stupid after that hour -- like crossword puzzles, computer solitaire. Listening to soothing music is also helpful. I've been working on this for a long time.

As I said, I really love my significant other, and I have made a big investment in our very long relationship. If you really are genuintly obsessive compulsive, and as long as it is not interfering with your functioning in everyday life, you need to consider whether your significant other is really important enough to you to justify trying to be different than you are. Sometimes it is just better to accept the fact that you are as you are and look for someone who is more compatible with your authentic self. Remember the movie, As Good As It Gets. Even extremely obsessive compulsive people can find love although eventually you have to decide what you love most, your obsessions or the significant other.

If you decide to compromise, remember that means everybody gives up and gains something. Since I have tried to control my political obsessions after 11 pm., my significant other has become more active in politics and has joined me in actually doing something about the political mess we have today. I didn't really bargain for that. It just happened. But it is definitely a win/win situation. If you are in a good relationship, that's the way things should work. Good luck.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:08 PM
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45. Well, my wife told me that I was obsessed
and I was, and full of anger - I had to get perspective.

What I did was start taking occasional "news vacations" a weekend without any TV or other media.

It was more for me than anything else....

I'm not saying that you are in the same boat as me, I'm just relating what I did.....
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:08 PM
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46. I can't get a second date!
That is all I talk about on my first date and I think they all think I am obsessed. I think they are right. I KNOW we have GREAT REASONS to be this way but even we have to do other things to be balanced. I'm trying, you should also. TRY and leave it at the office UNLESS something really BIG is happening.

Can you all imagine how sick we all would have been during WWII? During the McCarthy Hearing? Life goes on and we will somehow come through all of this.....promise!
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:49 PM
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80. For the first time in my life I think you're wrong. We won't come through
this. That is to say, we (some of us anyway) are watching the demise of America the concept. The ideals that were the foundation of this nation (liberty, individualism, freedom) have been supplanted by consumerism (remember when we were citizens?), ignorance, and jingoism. The country (amerika) will of course still be here but it will no longer be the "beacon of freedom" we grew up in. I'm sure there are many here on this board that are too young to even know what I'm talking about. There was a time, not long ago, when a display of the naked corruption that was seen in the House of Representatives today would have evoked an overwhelming bi-partisan revolt in that body. Can you imagine Goldwater, Eisenhower, or even Nixon, going along with this travesty?
:cry:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:08 PM
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47. Tell them if they were a little more interested and chose to participate,
I wouldn't have to work overtime to protect them too.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:09 PM
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48. If they cared about their country and their future, they would be too.
n/t
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:12 PM
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50. You laugh at them, like they're making a joke...
and ask "and that's a bad thing how?" Make them look like the idiots they are.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:15 PM
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51. I was thinking I'd send him this thread... but then I can hear the reply
"Well honey, of course they agree with you, you DID ask the other inmates at the asylum"


:freak:
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:16 PM
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52. I told hubby he ought to be glad that
I keep up with the news. If I didn't, he wouldn't know anything. The only part of the paper he reads is the funnies. Because of me, he knows what's up with the weather AND politics. He still thinks I'm a tin-foil had wearer, but after yesterday and today, he's thinking that less and less. I told him there was going to be a spike in terror threats.

Our daughters social studies teacher was telling the students yesterday "Did you hear about the _____ in the White House". The kids had to fill in the blank. They all got it right and said "spy", only my daughter took it a step further and said that he was probably a republican plant since he had also worked for Al Gore when he was VP and probably had been hired to spy then. Now, he's probably getting caught in the crossfire and was setup to take the fall for Rove or Cheney. She said her teacher just dropped his jaw and started talking about something else.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:19 PM
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55. HAHAHA great story about your daughter!! nt.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:18 PM
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53. Tell him that why the country is going down the toilet
Because too many like him do not care what happens to their country. This is where the statement "freedom isn't free" should apply. If we don't work to keep our freedoms, idiots like Bush and cabal will come in and destroy it. He and many many others have sat on their thumbs thinking our country would always be fine. Now it's circling the drain and they are still oblivious to it.
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:18 PM
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54. Democracy is a participatory sport for all good americans.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:22 PM
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56. I was told I had some mental problem
by some of my siblings because I hate * so much. No, I don't hate *, I hate his actions. How can you hate a monkey in a cage?
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:33 PM
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59. As canucks
My associate recently went down to the US for a family event. When there, she was asked by several Americans why Canadians hate America?
She patiently explained that Canadians as a whole, do not hate America. We don't even hate Bush. WE HATE HIS POLICIES - particularily his foreign policies.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:30 PM
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58. It is good to have passion in life. It is good to fight for the soul of
your country.. so it has one.

We do need balance. If you are not single..you need to devote much time to that. Like they say - a "marriage" isn't 50/50 - it is both parties giving 80%. So if this is getting in the way of your life - give some discipline to your passion. So your life doesn't spin out of control because some assholes took the WH. And warn him beforehand that both you and he are going to be very busy come election time - volunteering, driving people, going door to door - so you better bank some together time right now.. cause come 2006 - there may not be as much.

IMHO

Ignore me if it doesn't work for you.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:34 PM
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61. No I think that is real good advice...
And maybe he is feeling a bit neglected. He has his hobbies, I do too, but lately they all involve politics. We should find something to do together for a time this weekend.

My job doesn't end at 5pm like his does. I can't say I won't work at night, I'm a partner in a business that is 24 hours a day. I do a radio show on Saturday's and sometimes there is news that needs to get on the blog at night. So as much as he would wish it for me to "clock out at 5" that's not reality and my job helps pay the bills, I started this business because of my passion and I want it to succeed.

He does too, he's just being a total horses hind end today for some reason.

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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:33 PM
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60. Yes, this happens to me with my family and SO all the time.
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 03:43 PM by gumby
There are many reasons for their reactions. My nieces make me the angriest; they "don't do politics." Yeah, well, the joke's gonna be on them when they have to do the Women's Rights thing all over again.

My mom feels defensive when I talk about politics because she "feels" that "I'm trying to make her look stupid." I replied that the only thing stupid was her interpretation of my passion. edit: I told mom that *I* was 'hurt' that she would think such a thing and we had a discussion about it. We still go 'round and 'round. Ah, families!

I think it's just a matter of Overload with my SO. Really, one has to have a cast iron stomach to deal with the situation today. Some people are just not able to cope on a continuous basis. We all know it's bad; but some people need more space to 'take in' the evil we see spreading around us.

Sometimes, I pick an article that I think is a 'hot topic,' print it out and read it as a sort of theatrical "The News of the Day." That has become a known and common occurrence here.
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:38 PM
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62. it's better than not knowing anything!
personally I would rather be informed instead of blindly following the masses into the voting booth! And many people are more interested in the latest entertainment gossip than politics. Personally, that doesn't make any sense to me.....hollywood gossip will always be around and whatever they're up to does not affect me but politics is a different story. Every day politicians change our lives and it seems stupid to me not pay attention.

I remember several yrs ago, a friend of mine told me I should get interested in politics. At that time, I wasn't interested in it and didn't have a reason to be interested........until 9/11! When 9/11 happened, I figured it was time that I become involved in the world around me.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:41 PM
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63. Yep! My husband was ready to commit me before the 2000 selection
But now I get to tell him over and over *I TOLD YOU SO* and he has to apologize and concede that I was right to be concerned (ok devoured by politics)

Unfortunately I take little joy in being right! :(

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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:43 PM
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66. 'Why aren't YOU?" nt
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:45 PM
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68. "dont worry dear, I just love my country more than you"...
Yes I really said and yes it was sarcasm laden and yes my wife deserved it a little bit.

AFter many arguments we've settled down to I get to save the world as soon as I finish my chores around the house!

My empathy though really feels for all our political widows. I mean how do you argue and stack up against with someone who is trying to bring down the most fanatically fascist regime to hit the earth since Hitler? We always hold the trump card, but sometimes it is better to lose this kind of argument and just go to bed happy that.. well ... you can still go to bed happy (if you try!).

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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:49 PM
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70. I tell them..
Your life is politics what you drink,eat,wear,drive,live,die and think is politics. I also tell them what ever people in government or politics decide has something to do with your life, so thats why I am obsessed with politics. I usually get angry when I discuss it, because this is usually someone, I am trying to make politically aware of some situation that will affect their life or mine,and they don't want to hear the details because,I guess it makes them think to hard.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:56 PM
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72. You bring up a good point...
maybe I've been unthinkingly doing it outside the house too much lately. Hrmmm well when someome asks me a question I answer it, I can't help it when the seething anger I feel pops out a little. Usually the people I say it to know I am not angry at them.

But somethings just seem so dumb to talk about right now, television shows, pregnant celebrities that type of thing.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:33 PM
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79. I try to hide the anger ...
I am just usually angry because of their lack of curiosity.I try to find little ways to slip one or two points into the conversation, and relate it in someway to everyday life. I have learned through my family they will try to shut you out and won't listen. I spoon feed a little at a time.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:55 PM
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71. Damn straight I am. They I give them a cold steely look....
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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:03 PM
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74. I tell my husband, "You have your golf--this is my golf".
Same thing when I drag stuff home from garage sales. That's my golf also....and I spend alot less than he does.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:26 PM
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77. Tell them Democracy is not a spectator sport.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 06:54 PM
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86. There ya go.
;)
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:26 PM
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78. Fortunately for me, my SO is also obsessed with politics.
...
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 05:07 PM
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82. Been told that I am obsessed with politics.
The obsession is based on my concern for the people of this country. Those who accuse me of being obsessed are simply complicit in the failures of government.

I tell my accusers that politics and gardening are my hobbies. If they expect me to listen to their camping, golf, decorating, music obsession stories, then they should be courteous enough to lend me their ear when I discuss my hobbies.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 05:25 PM
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84. HA! great point... he talks hockey CONSTANTLY ...
but when I discuss the 3 terror threats in 24 hours *I* am being obsessed.

hahahaha... thankfully he went out tonight and I can feed my obsession.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 05:24 PM
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83. I tell my son that he will thank me when he's 30 years old
because I'm trying to save the country I grew up in and only want him to have a nice life not living under a fascist regime. As for my husband, I don't care if he thinks I'm obsessed. It's my life, my time and my passion. I just tell him he should be as involved because his son is only 12 and has a lifetime ahead of him and the reason we're in this mess is because people weren't involved. Guilt. It works every time. :evilgrin:
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 06:57 PM
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87. I'm a student of history--shouldn't I be at least as interested ...
in my own century as I am in the lives of ancient Egypt or Rome's rich and notorious.

Besides, it's fascinating, the ultimate reality show, and what you don't know really can hurt you.
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WHAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 07:15 PM
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88. I think I'm guilty...
when my daughter told me a friend was getting married on Oct. 28th I replied, "That's when the Plame investigation is due to end!" She replied something to the effect, "I hope it doesn't overshadow their wedding." lol

Well, I didn't know politics could be better than a movie, better than a book, better than a game,...yes, better than the rubric's cube!...until I got a computer about five years ago.

Now, everyday is a new chapter, a new twist, a new perspective.

giggle, giggle/twirling my hair, chuckling to myself...

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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 07:16 PM
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89. Just say, "Thank you."
:dem:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 07:17 PM
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90. "Aren't you missing Desperate Housewives?" n/t
n/t
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 07:23 PM
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91. "The price of Democracy is eternal vigilance." Tell him you are
being vigilant for TWO, because he does not take an adequate interest in how his own government is being run. Tell him you would love to slack off a little, maybe he could write some letters to the editor this week, read the news for you and give you the summaries ect.

This guy in in need of some pussy whipping.
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