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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:49 PM
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We need to be careful how we address the Bennett comment
We need to keep on message regarding racism and quit wandering over to the abortion issue. If we do that, we will play right into their hands.
It is purely about racism and NOT about abortion.
The multiple threads about aborting Republicans, etc, will lead to the inevitable argument that if you are aborting criminals...then you might be aborting world leaders and heroes. Let's not go there folks. It's a dead-end argument. Keep on topic--it is ONLY about racism.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:50 PM
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1. I agree
Some caller on Randi today was trying to make it about abortion.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:55 PM
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2. Of course it was a racist remark
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 09:20 PM by ayeshahaqqiqa
my only comment about the abortion part of it has been "But I thought the GOP were right to life. Does this remark mean that they only think whites have the right to live?" Brings it back to racism, but also points out their own hypocrisy without saying anything about my view on abortion, which is not germane to the argument.


Edited to change a word, thanks to a kindly poster who corrected me!
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:58 PM
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germane?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:20 PM
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12. Yes!
I'm more tired than I thought. Thank you for the correction! :)
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:53 PM
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14. Couldn't lesist.
teehee
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Tomee450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:55 PM
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3. Exactly!!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:56 PM
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4. Here's the money quote, from Howard, mkay
"One of the more egregious aspects of Bennett's recent statement is that it buys into and perpetuates the notion that race is a proxy for and a predictor of crime and violence. Race is not. Poverty and lack of opportunity are..."

Rest of DNC & Dean statement:
http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/?view=plink&id=1...
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:57 PM
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6. Great quote! n/t
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:00 PM
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10. And the thing is
that abortions, in general, I would think lower the crime rate. It just makes sense. Unwanted children are often unwanted because there is not enough money to care for them. Poverty leads to crime.

I am not advocating abortion as birth control; I am a Dem who is very uncomfortable with abortion. BUT you know what? If I would have gotten pregnant after age 45 I would have gotten one. I think I can be both pro life and pro choice. And sometimes the choices are hard.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:57 PM
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5. Very right! Abortion is not at all the point - IT'S THE RACISM
p.s. When you gonna name the horse? :D
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:59 PM
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9. can't say for sure...it's felt so good to get out of the rain that I had
not thought about it. ;)
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:58 PM
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7. Although one aspect of the insanity of Bennett's frothing
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 09:04 PM by omega minimo
is the notion that "you" (editorial) could choose to "abort" anyone.

"If you abort every ____ baby in the country"-- AS IF. What sort of perverted point of view is that? Who would even conceive (pun intended) of that concept, even hypothetically?

Another example of trivializing and externalizing the issue, the reality and the experience, of abortion into a conversational gimmick for clueless people who view it only from the OUTSIDE, only as a mechanism of CONTROL.

The caller was talking about people who were never born, who aren't paying into Social Security. Bennett was talking about aborting babies for social control. Maybe the discussion should be "about" EUGENICS.

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Splatter Phoenix Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:59 PM
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8. Excellent advice.
:kick:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:05 PM
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11. Ed Schultz said it best. "This is not about abortion, it's about
EXTERMINATION."
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:22 PM
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13. Big Ed said that? Good for him!
eom
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 12:13 AM
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15. you are my enemy
Edited on Sat Oct-01-05 12:14 AM by Blue_Roses
George Clooney is mine!!! :evilgrin:

Okay I have unhealty attraction to the man's mind :crazy:
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 12:16 AM
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16. Bennett is saying 'blacks are criminals'.
Abortion has little to do with it, IMO. After reading the entire quote it's clear how racist it is. From what someone said earlier, Bay Buchanan agreed with the racist comment. :eyes:



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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 12:29 AM
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17. oops...wrong thread
Edited on Sat Oct-01-05 12:43 AM by cat_girl25
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