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NaMeaHou Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 10:26 AM
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The California Recall Election
When did this country's politics sink so low that someone who gets 20% of the peoples votes may become Governor of that state? I am disgusted beyond belief with the thought that democracy means so little in this country anymore.

Just the fact that this insane "election" is taking place causes me to wave good bye to the country I once knew. We will never get it back. The political gamesmanship has gone over the edge; never to return.

We can hope for a sensible "statesman" to bring back sanity, but it won't happen. The end of the story has been written.

RIP democracy. It was nice to know you.
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DumbConservative Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 10:28 AM
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1. Election = Democracy
You're right.

Voters are too stupid to decide.
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NaMeaHou Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 10:31 AM
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2. The election was in November and
I seem to recall that they did decide.

A few million dollars created a new "election" where the leader of the state may have the support of 20% of the voters. That's not an election or democracy.
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_Wayne_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 10:33 AM
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3. Nice name, but don't sell yourself short
Dumb, it appears, is too mild a description.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 10:34 AM
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4. It isn't democracy when 49.9% of the voters vote to retain the person
they elected 11 months ago, but the governor ten days later is someon who got 35% of the vote and who participated in only one "debate" (for which he received the questions in advance) and that one debate is run by a media organization, and the media has been compaigning for him like crazy.
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Cloud Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 10:47 AM
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5. I still think the recall is bad
I saw Gray Davis on Larry King last night. He did great.

In America we have stability. People are elected to terms. If you don't like their policies or a bill they initiated then vote them out in the next election.
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Cloud Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:00 AM
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6. Face it, Davis won fair and square
Finally I get to take on a freeper before he gets tombstoned.

He said on Larry King that the recall movement started within 30 days of his re-election. The repubes didn't recall Davis because they though he was a bad person, the recalled him because Simon barely lost and they wanted a "Do over."

It is like the thread I just read a few minutes ago about Jesse Ventura. What if Oakland fans wanted a "Do over?" It would turn the sports world into a joke just like California politics right now.

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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:10 AM
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7. Malfeasance = legitimate recall
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 11:37 AM by Bushknew
No Malfeasance = Dumb Republican election stealing
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:21 AM
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9. Hi DumbConservative!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:15 AM
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8. After this is over we can hope that the recall law will be rewritten
Not by Republicans hopefully who will want to stop
any Dem effort right away, but setting the bar at
only 12% of the registered voters is way too low
to just remove someone who hasn't risen to crimes
and misdemeanors that the law asks it to.
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Kanola Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:22 AM
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10. As a Californian who voted for Davis 11 months ago in the ELECTION
I am ticked off to all hell that I have to vote No on the recall because a bunch of RW idiots (Issa=car thief) wanted to gain Repug control over our state. I bet most of the people who signed the petition to recall Davis did not even bother to vote because our legal election had low voter turnout.

I hope people with some gray matter in their heads and somewhat active neurotransmitters will THINK about how destructive it will be for our state if the recall succeeds.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:25 AM
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11. Just to point this out again
per survey over 39% of petition signers didn't vote in the last election.

This is nothing but a right wing powre grab, an attempt to undo another democratic election victory with subterfuge.
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