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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 04:20 PM
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David Brooks: From Day One (2001) -- Dishonesty
Chris Matthews, Sunday, September 11, 2005
David Brooks discussing the Bush Regime.
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DB: From day one, they have decided "our public diplo.. relations is not going to be honest".

Privately, they admit mistakes all the time. Publicly -- and I’ve has this debate with them since day one, I always say “admit a mistake and people will give you credit,” and their response is, "If …

{Crosstalk}

CM: Who do you debate this with?

DB: People who work in the White House.

CM: I thought you were talking with the president in the back room there.

DB: Not with him, but I … they represent what he believes.

{Continuing}

DB: "If you admit a mistake, you get no credit from your enemies, and then you open up another week’s story."

CM: (nodding)

DB: The admission of a little mistake leads to the admission of big mistakes, another week’s story, and you lose control. It’s totally tactical and totally insincere.
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{Others – Katty Kay, Sam Donaldson -- join dialog, but their comments are limited to regime’s dishonesty as a strategy. No one suggests that deception -- particularly to conceal “big mistakes” from the public -- might be morally reprehensible behavior that dangerously undermines our democracy.}

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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 04:27 PM
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1. Is this the same guy who routinely shills for Bush in our paper....
The Wisonsin State Journal? The worst of the bunch is James Lileks. What a POS.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 04:30 PM
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4. James Lileks?
Gallery of Regrettable Food Lileks?


this guy? www.lileks.com?


he's a fucking shill?


you just broke my heart.

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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 04:35 PM
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5. The waste of skin had a OPED today defending..
Bushco. I think a little looking into his financing is in order.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 04:43 PM
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6. well i'm disgusted.
and heartbroken. his website (well at least back in 99-2000) was one of my top favorites.


i can't believe he's a wingnut. he had a sense of humor.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 05:06 PM
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12. He was always a mildly conservative grouch
Which was part of what made him interesting and fun.

After 911, he went batshit insane. Little Green Footballs insane. His funny jibes have turned arch and mean. And insane. Did I mention he's turned insane?
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 05:09 PM
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13. Spit it out, Charlie
Do you think, maybe, he's insane? :evilgrin:
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 05:16 PM
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14. I've got my suspicions...
Our Lydia Leftcoast knows him from back in her college days. He used to crack wise about Ronald Reagan. Lileks snarking on Reagan today would be like a nun dissing the Pope. Funny how so many ex-liberals have catapulted clean over conservativeland and landed in the realm of rightwing loonies.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 04:57 PM
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10. I know, doesn't it suck? afaik, the only funny neocon in existence.
And it's too bad, because he can be REALLY funny.
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 04:28 PM
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2. Lying about a stained dress will get you impeached.
But lying about mistakes that lead to tens of thousands of deaths is "tactical". Shameless whores. Even when they are criticizing * they are still shills.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 04:29 PM
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3. can I ask what does this mean ??
I’ say “admit week’s mistakes” –...I'm not familiar with
these codes....please enlighten me !!!
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 11:45 PM
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15. Bad font transfer...
...for the quotes and apostrophes? Dunno why it got the first two right.
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 04:45 PM
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7. David Brooks appears to be turning from his neocon ways.
He's a contributing editor of the Weekly Standard and was a major apologist for the Iraq War and everything else BushCo has done until recently. Maybe David's decided it's time to put some distance between himself and the nightmare he helped to bring about.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 04:47 PM
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8. Brooks is pissed. Look at this exchange from the PBS Newshour.
"DAVID BROOKS: But to reiterate the point I made earlier, which is this is the anti-9/11, just in terms of public confidence, when 9/11 happened Giuliani was right there and just as a public presence, forceful -- no public presence like that now. So you have had a surge of strength, people felt good about the country even though we had been hit on 9/11.

Now we've been hit again in a different way; people feel lousy; people feel ashamed and part of that is because of the public presentation. In part that is because of the failure of Bush to understand immediately the shame people felt.

Sitting up there on the airplane and looking out the window was terrible. And the three days of doing nothing, really, on Bush was terrible. And even today, I found myself, as you know, I support his politics quite often.


JIM LEHRER: Sure.

DAVID BROOKS: Look at him today earlier in the program, this is how Mark Shields must feel looking at him, I'm angry at the guy and maybe it will pass for me. But a lot of people and a lot of Republicans are furious right now.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/political_wrap/july-dec05/bop_9-2.html

Video is up at the link if your want to watch it.
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:02 AM
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17. I can't help but think of how well Bill Clinton would have handled this.
:cry:
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 04:50 PM
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9. Nixon's Dishonesty led to his Resignation. Floodgate is Bush's Watergate
Floodgate is washing away the disposable clothing Rove covers Bush with, so now the emperor has no clothes. Keep the pressure on.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 04:59 PM
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11. Why is David Brooks turning on Bush?
Is he really pissed about the corruption, dishonesty, and inability to govern or is DB just hopping on the band wagon?

Brooks had no problem shilling for Bush in the past, so why the 'change of tune'?
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 02:26 AM
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18. I've been wondering this for a while. Maybe the civilized people at the
NYT are starting to get to him.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 12:46 AM
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16. The Big Lie is working pretty well for them so far
I actually thought that that the phony pantomime of being somehow UNABLE to provide relief to the Katrina survivors would snap the nation out of its coma.............:boring:

"The admission of a little mistake leads to the admission of big mistakes, another week’s story, and you lose control."

Evenin' Senator :patriot:
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