Robert Bennett from Utah - defending the Adm. and attacking

[LittleApple81]

Ted Kennedy's statements.
Citing the stupid polls...
Iraqis' lives are better now than before US came in!!!
Stupid poll. Is it done correctly.

[LittleApple81]

1. Comparing Iraq with the Holocaust!

We didn't know that Iraq was torturing people?
Failure of intelligence. Using Roosevelt and the Holocaust

[kentuck]

4. True or False?

Iraq and the world is better off without Saddam in power? Do we now accept this as conventional wisdom?

[LittleApple81]

2. Iraqis have more food, medicine, and power than before the

Americans came.
He didn't come prepared to talk about this...
Sure!

[LittleApple81]

5. The media are not telling the true story!

The media boogaboo again!
Progress in Iraq!

[diplomats]

3. What polls is he talking about?

[LittleApple81]

6. Zogby's I think. 63% are better off.

[LittleApple81]

7. Mentioning Haiti!

But Haiti is a disaster now. Is he going to mention this?

[wryter2000]

8. Aaaarrgggh!

That is NOT what the poll asked (assuming I'm talking about the same poll). The poll asked "will you be better off in five years?" Not the same freaking thing at all.

[LittleApple81]

9. Colin Powell convinced Haitian government to leave.

But he is trying to equate situations where lies were not told with this situation with SITUATIONS WHERE LIES WERE NOT TOLD.

[LittleApple81]

10. Haiti one brutal dictator much loved by the conservatives

with a dictator much loved by the Democrats.
The United Nations has failed in bringing prosperity to Haiti.

[LittleApple81]

11. Now returning to the subject he came here to discuss.

done with his attack.

[jbfam4]

12. consider the source

At one of the committee meetings last week,

Bennet said he couldn't believe the news on CNN........he had to go to FAUX to get his news.

[Another Bill C.]

13. He's a good spinmeister

First he talked about terrorism, implicated a religion with no central leadership, and then led into Iraq without making a connection to the previous two points. He then spins our "reasons" for going into Iraq and says they don't matter any more because we found out Hussein was a tyrant (like we didn't know that when we supported him in the '80s).

The word for this is:
Enthymeme \En"thy*meme\, n. consider; ? in + ? mind, soul.] (Logic)

"An enthymeme is a partial syllogism. It is based on the probable rather than positive premises and is based on implicit conjectures that are shared by the speaker and the audience. The speaker gives the primary premise and assumes that the audience will supply the missing knowledge in order to reach the conclusion.

"Everything that lives, moves (primary premise)
No mountain lives (conclusion)

"In this case, the audience supplies the knowledge that mountains do not move."

http://www.lcc.gatech.edu/gallery/rhetoric/terms/syllogism.html

[RobertSeattle]

14. I just wish someone would have the balls to ask...

...How much would you like to wager on this, Bill?