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ChiDem Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:23 PM
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Anthrax = MIHOP
I am not MIHOP on 9-11 yet, I AM LIHOP.

But...

Isn't it clear at this point that the anthrax attacks were MIHOP ?

Think about it. The anthrax came from Ft Detrick. It seems we have someone in our government that is masquerading as a arab terrorist and attacking the American people with wmd.

Which is a powerful conclusion..

If our government hatched a plan to attack the American people with wmd and then blame it on arab terrorist per the letters...then how far down the road do we have to travel to reach MIHOP on 9-11 ?

Not to mention the media and WH propaganda, If the anthrax terrorists were really foreign, and really a threat the WH and the media would have used it for fear mongering and the sort when they wanted to scare the people, the fact that the media ignores it is proof enough that something very damning is being hidden.

Sorry for such a outdated rant, but it worries me..
:crazy:
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:29 PM
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1. It does more than worry me
If they can not find the person behind the Anthrax murders, how will they stop the next bin Forgotten attack.
:scared:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:31 PM
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2. Odd timing, no?
And to think s/he never struck again. And why only the Democratic leadership and hi-profile media people?

I heard that the WH started a Cipro therapy before the 1st incidence was made public. Cipro is not considered a preventative therapy for Anthrax. Hmmmmm.

Is the case still open? I've never heard much about it after the investigation narrowed it to Ft. Dietrick and a finite amount of people who could have had access to it.

So, no one brought to justice, but only a few people died in that attack. It's not like 3,000 people died or anything.
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ChiDem Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:42 PM
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4. Here is the 'Cipro link'
*snip*

Larry Klayman, chairman of Judicial Watch, said administration officials said last fall that some White House staff members had begun taking the antibiotic Cipro on Sept. 11, weeks before the anthrax attacks were made public.

*snip*

LINK: http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A15269-2002Jun7¬Found=true

The fact that it went down the memory hole speaks volumns
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:29 AM
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22. Thanks for bringing this up, ChiDem,
as you said, the anthrax attacks went down the memory hole.

As did the put options on United & American airlines, that were made right before 9/11. RIght down the friggin memory hole.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:14 PM
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15. i forget there was something the journalist who died was
investigating? that had to do with bush? so much to remember with this investigation

yes i am outraged that there isnt outrage that our postal employees and our dems, and journalist were attacked in such a way, from anthrax from our military.

does anyone talk about?

only here now and again
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:28 AM
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21. It was a journalist in Florida who was the 1st victim.
Two things about that.

(1) He was the one who published those pics of the Bush girls partying hearty.

(2) There was a tie-in to people involved in the with the terrorist flying school in Venice. I think someone who was renting apartments to the terrorists also owned the building that the paper was published in. IIRC, that place was completely sealed off after the attack and who knows what information might have been taken out of the files there.

Same thing when they shut down Congress...who knows what could have been lifted during the investigation into the ANthrax attack in the offices of the Democrats.

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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:35 PM
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3. Anthrax and 911 are related attacks
Ulimately the same agency is behind both. The 911 leads were obstructed prospectively and afterwards. The anthrax investigation has been a complete coverup.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:42 PM
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5. Only a handful of people could have laid their hands on the
Ft. Detrick strain.

It's an investigator's wet dream.

There is zero chance that a cover-up is not occuring in this crime.
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wiggle-room Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:43 PM
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6. Targets of the attacks? media and dems. Timing - patriot act passage.
mission accomplished, I guess


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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:44 AM
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23. The "STFU" factor was a big winner, mediawise!
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:49 PM
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7. there was a time that I would have considered this to be;
"Tin foil hat" territory, but I see an onion being peeled away with the Rove scandel and DSM....how much of this was orchestrated?
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:57 PM
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8. Inside job, by definition. Orchestrated and executed by people
in authority against their own citizens.
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CantGetFooledAgain Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 06:07 PM
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9. Okay, maybe this is an ignorant question, but...
Didn't the FBI investigate the anthrax attacks? Aren't they accountable for finding out who did it, or explaining (in some detail, I would imagine) why they can't find the culprits?

I'm having trouble believing that such a criminal investigation could be effectively squelched and just disappear like that. How did it happen?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that there wasn't a coverup. I'm just wondering how it is technically possible to just bury an investigation of a WMD attack on the US Congress using domestically produced biological agent! It boggles the mind.

In my fantasies, I imagine that Fitzgerald has them cold on all of this: 9/11, anthrax, torture, election fraud, "fixing" the intelligence, looting Iraq, all of it. And that they're all about to get indicted.

Such a nice fantasy.
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USAFHelos Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 06:10 PM
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10. Target list
I've always found it very interesting that the targets attacked with Anthrax were typically considered liberal...

I.E. Tom Daschle, Pat Leahy, NBC's Tom Brokaw etc.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 06:15 PM
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11. I share your fantasy...
The more we know, the more it seems that everything is connected. What I want to know is WHY...what's the motive? Is it just pure unadulterated imperialism? Is it just a lust for power and money? Do they really think they're doing something worthy, however misguided, or are they just evil? I think we can all think of examples of actions taken with good intent that turn out horribly, horribly wrong (as in Ursula Leguin's Lathe of Heaven), but with this bunch and all their lies, whatever good motivations that they put forward -- spreading democracy, whatever -- seem to be just empty rhetoric, a cover-up of something far more sinister.
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CantGetFooledAgain Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 06:28 PM
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13. Sinister. Yes, I feel the same way.
I don't understand it. I really don't know what's up with them. But it disturbs and depresses me.

I spend hours each day reading DU for two reasons: to be "with" like-minded people, and to hopefully hear some good news when it finally breaks.

Now, with this prosecution, we're starting to get some good news. It's got momentum. The media is all over it (finally!).

And you'd better believe I'm watching closely to see what's going to happen. This is history being made before our eyes.
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ChiDem Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 06:53 PM
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14. They still are investigating,...
and using lots of money and manpower..wink, wink

Just look at some of the links that Bush told the FBI to back off the Bin Ladens >>>>>>>>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bush+back+off+bin+laden%27s+fbi&spell=1
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 06:22 PM
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12. Who was anthrax sent to?
Wasn't anthrax sent to two Democrat congressmen (Leahy, Daschle) who happened to oppose the Patriot Act?

my source for this is:

http://www.freefromterror.net/other_articles/gov_anthrax.html
http://www.oilempire.us/anthrax.html

and Micheal Ruppert's book, IIRC.
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OfireitupO Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:51 PM
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16. Inside job
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 07:55 PM by OfireitupO
The anthrax letters were a fear tool to get the Patriot Act passed.

It looks like a coverup. Obviously, they went to the only senators to oppose the patriot act. Then the story instantly vanishes after the FBI pesters some old white guy who obviously has nothing to do with the investigation. The most obvious source of it is Dr. Zach, who has ties to the Israeli government.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/framingarabs

"There are two suspects accused of being the source of the Anthrax letters. The first is Dr. Philip Zack, who was caught on camera entering the storage area where the Anthrax was kept without proper authorization after being fired from his job for a racially motivated attack on an Egyptian coworker.

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/bioter/anthraxmissingarmylab.html

The second suspect is the more well known Dr. Stephen Hill, accused (and re-accused and re-accused) by Dr. Barbara Rosenberg although no actual evidence of his involvement has surfaced.

Regardless of whether one thinks Dr. Zack or Dr. Hill is the culprit, neither man is an Arab Muslim, which means that the above letters are not evidence of a terrorist attack. They are evidence of an intentional deception against the people of the United States; a deliberate frame-up of middle eastern Arabs for acts of terror committed inside the United States."
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this_side_up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:12 AM
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17.  A microbiologist with no work
The Man With No Work
WASHINGTON, June 27, 2003



McSweegan once managed a large portfolio of research at the National Institutes of Health (NIH), but his work days have been pretty much empty since March 1996.

It's not that he doesn't want to work. He says they won't let him. Meantime, taxpayers are covering his generous paycheck, reports CBS News Correspondent Sharyl Attkisson.

McSweegan, who earns about $100,000 a year, believes he's being punished for using his personal time to discredit a charity that had influence over his bosses at NIH.


He might title his own incredible story "Under Worked and Overpaid." For now, he's waiting for someone else to write the last chapter.



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pox americana Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:40 AM
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18. If not MIHOP, definitely a cover up
I don't think it was Hill, who seemed like an unlucky red herring. Just another disposable American like those "heroes" in NYC.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:15 AM
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19. .
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:14 AM
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20. Kick for way too many unanswered questions!
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