Anybody watching Countdown?

[AlCzervik]

Tom Cruise is out of his fucking mind.

[fooj]

1. Yep. Blown a fuse...

:smoke:

[rodeodance]

6. Tom is right about Matt not know the history of psychiatry and how

specific drugs get to market.

[fooj]

11. Agreed. However, stating that there is no such thing

as a chemical imbalance is totally false.

peace.

[annabanana]

2. well well Dr. Cruise..

Who knew? BOY is he a tool. He used to be cute before he went nuts.

[AlCzervik]

4. he is now Mel Gibson crazy

[BattyDem]

39. "Mel Gibson crazy"

That's the perfect term to use! :rofl:

[dogday]

3. I like seeing him give Matt shit.....

can't help it....

[AlCzervik]

9. normally i'd enjoy that but Cruis is just really

out of his mind here, i can imagine Nicole Kidman thinking "I have to drop the kids off at his house??"

[Pithy Cherub]

5. Tom Cruise is embarrassing himself greatly!

Oh my he has jumped off the couch and hit his head! Repeatedly! He says all psychiatrists are frauds... All or nothing is indicative of a huge issue!:eyes:

[rodeodance]

8. I do not think he pushes it on people.

[Pithy Cherub]

12. LOL! Tell it to Brooke Shields who told him to find some aliens to fight.

Tom C was arrogant in saying he has studied the issue and HE knows the history. He failed to distinguish that he has a perspective not a full view. ( remind you of journalists...:rofl:)

Did ya see Keith's little banner, Tom cruise - He scares me... :rofl:

[AlCzervik]

15. like Tom Cruise knows anything personally about post partum

unless he himself was the host to an alien baby.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

25. "Tom Cruise - he scares me"?

Really? I missed that.

EXCELLENT!

I think Matt Lauer is to be commended for not punching Cruise more than once.

(Oh, man, now DeLay is trying to read - he can't READ!)

Cruise has snakes in his head. He even LOOKED nuts.

[babylonsister]

7. Yeah, what he says goes, and that's that. Weird and it won't

help his popularity, not that I care. :eyes: But I'm glad Keith's back!

[Kraklen]

10. I hear he made his sister his press agent.

Reminds me of This is Spinal Tap when the guy makes his girlfriend their agent and she books them at an Amusement Park and a USO dance.

[annabanana]

13. Keith suggesting that someone give Rove and Cruise an

Intervention :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Chipper Chat]

14. I switched over to CNN (guess Keith thought it was important)

Rove will send Tom a case of oil in appreciation. This + the St. Louis fire + the boy scout + Aruba ad-nauseum help take the heat off KKKKKKKKKKKarl & his hallucinating boss.

[SW FL Dem]

19. and guess what CNN was covering - Natalee Holloway n/t

[Chipper Chat]

34. CNN had alot of B-roll on Natalee that was backing up!

But have you noticed Fox is wall-to-wall Natalee now. All the Fax political talking heads are in seclusion coming to grips with Daddy Rove's comments and how to spin them to make bushie look better.

[librechik]

16. "Analyze this !" Did they show a pic of Rove while discussing insanity

and how some people could benefit from an intervention? or a blooper--cuz I thot we were talking about Tom C!

[HysteryDiagnosis]

21. They wouldn't let me on the cheerleading squad in college.... I

know.. I'll start a war with Iraq... that should just about even things up.... yeah, that's the ticket!!

We now return you to your originally scheduled programming.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

17. There are lots of ways to treat people.... here's one way... somebody

get me a valium, this sort of thing pisses me off to no end...

Audios:
http://www.garynull.com/Events/GaryNullArchives.htm

For the reading enabled:

http://www.garynull.com/Documents/PathologizingAfricanAmericanPt1.htm

What we see happening in the African American community today has, in the minds of many, been created: blacks-against-blacks violence, suicide and drug abuse at an all time high, children who cannot read or write and a very high level of unemployment. Psychiatrists involuntarily commit African Americans three to five times as often as they do whites. Psychiatrists diagnose African American men in public and private mental hospitals as having schizophrenia at a rate of up to 1,500 percent higher than white men. African Americans are given significantly higher doses of psychiatric drugs, major tranquilizers, and neuroleptics than are whites. More than twice as many African Americans as whites are classified as mentally retarded. Psychiatry -- heavily financed by the National Institutes of Mental Health along with this Community Mental Health Centers Program, which began in 1963 -- has been, in the minds of many, destructive in the oppression of the African Americans. Community health centers have provided numerous frontline sales outlets operating within the fabric of society, entrapping greater numbers of unwitting victims. The growth of this network parallels the declining statistics among African Americans.

[dogday]

18. Time To Talk About Rove....

[rodeodance]

23. I did think it was strange that the WH issued a clarification

[rodeodance]

26. oh good Gawd!!==DeLay!! says Cheney remarks were the truth.

[rodeodance]

27. Dan Barlett has been all over the tube last 2 days defending cheney!!!

[MessiahRp]

20. I actually think it made for interesting debate.

Tom's demeanor seemed a bit aggressive but he made some decent points in his side of the debate. Psychiatry is a a tad bit shadier than other forms of medical practice because the determination of chemical inbalance doesn't actually occur via blood test.

I spent a lot of my youth on anti-depressants and my friend was on Ritalin and I think neither medication actually helped us. My depression started to become under control when I wasn't on meds and was able to take responsibility for my condition myself. So I am not the highest on using meds to control the emotions of children whom are suffering from things I don't think drugs can control (i.e. new situations, difficult environment, more responsibility, self image, hormonal emergence, etc.).

Rp

[sundancekid]

22. he has jumped the shark ... what a control freak ... he has NO CLUE

that while passion unites us when it is fired by a humanitarian spirit, cultism divides us irreparably because it is fired by extremism (black or white, myway or highway, all or nothing) ...

Jeepers, no wonder Nicole left him, who the hell would want to be held hostage by THAT kind of judgmentalism!!! I bet he votes repuke too.

on edit: corrected a misplaced word

[Disturbed]

36. WTF?

He said that there is no such thing as brain chemical imbalance. I have a daughter who is Bi-Polar. She was without meds twice in her life and went totally irrational and hyper delusional. Long story and am shortening it but the 1st time we didn't know she was Bi-Polar and she went into a high state of hyper mania. She had to be hospitalized. The 2nd time she stopped taking her meds because she was talked out of doing so by some guy that had the same perspective as Mr. Cruise. She went completely manic.

Mr. Cruise may have a general point that Americans might rely too much upon medications but to say Psychiatry is a psuedo-Science is bogus. Psychiatrists are MDs 1st then 4 more years of training after that.

In my view what is psuedo Science is Scientology.

[BattyDem]

40. I was furious when I heard him say that!

Where the hell did he get his medical degree?! Oh that's right, he doesn't have one ... but he "researched" the subject so now he thinks he's an expert! :grr:

[Kurovski]

41. Tom Cruise should continue to attempt becoming an actor

and leave science to the scientists.

Oh, you know what I mean!

I think he should bunk with 5 mentally ill people for 2 months (on meds 1 month, and 1 month off)

Then he can mouth off about it. If he heals anyone with a "laying on of hands", more power to 'em.

[a kennedy]

43. Is this like "Dr. Frist" making a diagnosis from a tape or tv???

GIVE ME A FICKING BREAK!!!!!

[dogday]

24. Delay can't even sssspeak

[OldLeftieLawyer]

28. Keith was nice and snide

"Always good to read those things once beforehand........"

[dogday]

29. and staying sober helps as well

lol

[rodeodance]

30. where was Karl Rove after the 9/11 attaches askes Keith.

[rodeodance]

31. she thinks Rove's comments were rather 'cold"--KO says 'smug'

[rodeodance]

32. she wants the Trade center to be memorial as well as a research center

for alternative fuels.

[blue neen]

35. I think she has a good idea there.

I was very impressed with Mrs. Van Auken.

[Todd B]

38. Now, now..

Now, now.. it *does* make it hard to speak with a forked tongue, you have to admit that! *eg*

[ls317]

33. Think about it

After he divorced Nicole Kidman,she had her down moments made a few shitty movies made some decent movies. She slowly got on with her life,spite the fact of taking her divorce rather hard.
But in the end she came back like a champion and finally seemed happy for once with her life on several levels.
So tom goes thru a few women and it doesn't work for him, Lets see Katie Homes vs Ms Cruz... Personally thats not an upgrade at all... Its lots of steps backwards ...
Nicole is finally happy on the romance front and there is a chance she may get married again. Tom wants everyone to look at him and care about his personal love life.. Thats why the crazy ass stunts..Come on Katie Homes a 27 year old playing teenage roles,hell she couldn't act her way out of a paperbag..
There are some movies that I like of Tom Cruise , but the luster is starting to dull from his star.. War of the Worlds will be huge at the boxoffice...

[BattyDem]

37. He's nuts!

:wow:

Does anyone else think there's going to be at least one tragedy as a result of his rantings? You know what I mean ... a woman who's suffering from post-partum depression, yet refuses to get help because drugs and therapy are "bad" - then she ends up killing her baby; or a teen who stops taking Ritalin or some other drug and ends up killing himself.

While I agree that this country is grossly over-medicated, I don't think the answer is discouraging people from getting help when they need it! What an ass! :grr:

[Rhiannon12866]

42. I agree. This was the general consensus on KOEB.

What they said there was that he made Matt Lauer seem sane.:crazy:

[blitzen]

44. Keith neatly linked Rove to Tom Cruise...

suggested that they are criticizing "therapy" because they perhaps need it themselves!