No Military Solution in Iraq, Say U.S. Commanders

[Kevin Spidel]

> Subject: New from DIRELAND: No Military Solution in Iraq, Say U.S.
> Commanders
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> New from DIRELAND, June 13, 2005
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> NO MILITARY SOLUTION IN IRAQ, SAY U.S. COMMANDERS
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> It's time for the U.S. to get out of Iraq -- because the insurgency
> cannot be defeated by the force of American arms. Who says so? Why, the
> U.S. military leaders on the ground in Iraq, who flat-out contradict
> Bush administration claims that the war against the insurgency is being
> won. Those are the findings in a stunning report in this morning's
> Philadelphia Inquirer -- even as a new Gallup Poll out today shows 59%
> of Americans think its time for withdrawal. But the Democratic
> leadership in Congress keeps ducking the withdrawal issue in the most
> cowardly way. For details, click on:
> http://direland.typepad.com/direland/2005/06/no_military_sol.html

[charlyvi]

1. You know, I really don't hate to say I told them so.

Most of us on this board, especially the folks who lived through Vietnam, knew in our bones that this war could not be won. You can't fight on foreign soil when the native people don't want you there. I think the Iraqis who wanted us there at first just wanted us to depose Saddam then leave; of course, that would mean leaving the oil. Now even those Iraqis don't want us there anymore, and the puppet Iraqi government is in our hands; I really don't think they speak for the Iraqi person on the street. Just as we propped up the South Vietnamese government, we are propping up this one, and it is futile.

[malmapus]

4. Its a bitter sweet I told you so to me

Not bitter to those war monger chicken hawks.

But to buddies who have had to endure this crap over there as well as those that didn't make it out alive and their families. I hate being right in that department.

[katinmn]

2. Thanks, Kevin! Excellent article.

The only ones who truly know what they are doing are confirming this war can't be won militarily, only politically.

nominated

[katinmn]

3. kick for truth!

[gratuitous]

5. So, the military commanders finally caught on, did they?

That's good. It's too bad the media don't believe anyone's credible in commenting on the efficacy of war unless they've got some fruit salad on their chests, but there is a huge contingent of folks (dismissed as a "focus group" by the corrupt Bush administration and its media lackeys) who have been saying this with reasoned and cogent arguments for about, oh, three or four years at least.

Let's see, the people, the military, pretty soon some more voices in the media and one or two folks in government. Maybe soon our nation's "leaders" will get on the ball.

Or not. There was some cockamamie letter to the editor this morning in the Oregonian about how Lincoln suffered popular derision during the Civil War but is now lionized for his courage in a difficult situation, and attempting to draw a parallel with the Dim Son today. It didn't work, but I'm sure it made the dumbass letter writer feel better.

[tnlefty]

6. Not according to an idiotic man from MO on Washington Journal

that I heard this morning. His solution was to kill every last person over there if that is what it takes to get rid of any insurgents or terrorists.

Thanks for posting this.