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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 09:39 AM
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from the files . . . weird stuff at Denver International Airport? . . .
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 09:41 AM by OneBlueSky
ran across this stuff while cleaning up my bookmarks . . . I have no idea what to make of it . . . but the imagery is weird whether you're wearing a tinfoil hat or a fedora . . .

Denver Airport
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Denver_Airport.html

What on earth is going on at Denver International Airport?
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/5692/

"Those weird-ass murals" . . .
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/5692/

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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 09:41 AM
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1. i have seen this stuff online a while, it is very "boys from brazilly"
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 09:44 AM
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2. Bechtel built it
That's enough for concern

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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 09:45 AM
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3. Spooky!
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 09:46 AM
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4. Okay, now that's just fucking bizarre
It really almost makes you think that David Icke might be onto something. I really feel like I stepped through the looking glass.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:05 AM
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6. Did you hear David Icke on Coast to Coast a few nights ago.

He didn't mince words about 911 being a black op intended by the powers that be as a means of grabbing power and control over the population, and George Noory basically agreed with him. He also warned that the hype and propaganda we are starting to hear in England and other parts that we will have to move to implement mandatory ID cards is only the first step in reaching a longer term goal to microchip everyone for tracking and furthering the ability to use mind control in order to establish a totalitarian state rule. He claimed that because the government has access to technology that's several steps above what is commercially available they've got microchips now that could be implanted in a human which are small enough to be administered as part of a normal vaccine (hmmm, I think I'll hold off on that next flu shot).


Many might say that this is way too :tinfoilhat: for most people to accept. However as I read the news and see what's unfolding day by day, I have to come to the conclusion that whether or not shape shifting alien reptiles are a reality, I agree with many of his concerns about the totalitarian direction in which we seem to be heading.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:18 AM
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9. I did listen to that
And I found myself shocked to realize that I agreed with most of what he said. I used to always think of him as a complete whack job.

And the fact that George Noory agreed with Icke's take on 9-11 was not lost on me. Art Bell has also expressed a similar point of view.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:40 AM
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17. I always find it hard to believe that at one point
David Icke was just a normal bloke, a goalie for both Coventry City and Hereford United Football Clubs and then a sports commentator for the BBC. After he left the BBC, he became involved with the Green Party and then in the early 90s he sort of publicly unravelled, making prophesies about Britain's destruction on television and talking about reptilian beings running the world, and always dressing in head to toe turquoise (for reasons I never fully understood).
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:42 PM
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28. I did not know that
The one problem I have with Icke's theory that George W. Bush is a shape-shifting reptilian is this: My cousin has a chameleon, and that lizard demonstrates probably five times the intelligence of Bush. Seriously, if that chameleon were President, it would be a paradise compared to what we are dealing with now.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:07 PM
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32. Heh. Comparing Shrub to a chameleon is unkind
to the chameleon.

The reason I know much at all about David Icke is because my husband is a lifelong Coventry City fan and remembers him well, and also says he wasn't a bad sports commentator back in the "normal" part of his life. I was still living in the States back in those days, so only know of him after he went, um, awry. The first I knew of Icke was when he appeared on a talk show over here hosted by a guy called Terry Wogan (don't think Wogan's known in the US) and he kind of came unglued in the interview. After that he always wore turquoise, and then all the reptile/conspiracy stuff started. It was a big surprise to people who remembered Icke from earlier times.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:35 PM
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37. Have you ever seen Pickles in a bathing suit?
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:34 PM
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67. Looks like she's had a makeover...
and looks all the better for it.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:09 PM
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98. She looks pretty foxy
without the Chairman Mao suit on.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:32 AM
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12. The government
Is not for us people,it never was.

BTW I took a trip to Denver this past winter/fall..And I got sickish at the airport.. I hated Denver's"feel" it made me pissed off and feel bad. I gotta ask what is up with all the weird sounds(like dogs barking,a train station,water running,a pig grunting,birds in a tropical forest)The sounds seemed to be switched around randomly it ,,all types were coming out of the grates along the sidewalk outside the perimeter of the fed reserve bank?

And why in the hell did I almost pass out walking over them one night to get back to my hotel?
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:52 PM
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31. Okay, now you are seriously freaking me out
You are definitely not the first person to report ill effects upon entering the Denver airport.
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MrBadExample Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:22 PM
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The street sounds
Those sounds you heard are an old street art installation--I remember it being there when I was working downtown back in the mid-90s. Denver seems to have a tradition of not-well-thought-out public art--check out the "5,280 Feet" thing on the corner of 17th some time if you're ever back in town.
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:05 AM
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5. the "what on earth"
and "murals" links are dead.

from what I remember of the murals...there are 3 little children in caskets. Each representing the 3 major world religions.

another mural shows some of the world extinct species in a forest of known psychotropic flora.

another depicts a post holocaustic situation with the adults being clad in black, wandering off in the distance.

and perhaps the most alarming one, has all the world's children of color, turning over all the world's remaining weapons to a little blond haired Nazi boy in the center. He is beating them with a hammer.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:34 AM
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14. Interesting
The bible says the"good" will smash the evildoers like clay pots...hmmm what better tool to smash clay pots with than a hammer..Remember pink floyd the wall the marching hammers?
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PsyOpsRunsOurCountry Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 05:31 PM
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78. US Air Force Academy is nearby. This all might be part of indoctrination.
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 05:36 PM by PsyOpsRunsOurCountry
As the boots fail to report for duty and the Air Force technology becomes even more important, the USAF Academy in Colorado Springs is breeding Christian Soldiers drawing from the Amerikkkan fundamentalist cult-ure.

The May issue of Harpers Magazine cover story is about a mega-church near the USAF Academy that is designed to simulate a military installation.

I wouldn't be surprised if microwave and other technologies were used on travelers through the airport to make the USAF recruits more prone to indoctrination upon arrival with biblical imagery associated.

Hell, it only makes sense. Pun intended.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:07 AM
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7. Hubertus Strughold was a Nazi. During WWII Hubertus Strughold headed
the Luftwaffe Institute for Aviation Medicine which conducted human "experimentation" on slaves from Auschwitz. After WWII, Hubertus Strughold was given an office at Brooks AFB, Texas in the School of Aviation Medicine there and he is honored as the "father of space medicine" by NASA.

During WWII SS General Walter Dornberger was in charge of construction and production at the Nazi terror rocket base at Peenemunde, part of which was dug out of a mountain by the hands of slaves from the Dora camp.

Based on minimum caloric intake these slaves lasted about 6 months.
If goals weren't met, or rules broken, slaves would be hung in the work areas and their corpses left to decay.

As V.P. of Bell Aircraft Walter Dornberger sure helped sell a lot of helicopters to the Pentagon.

I see occultic symbolism in those swastika admiring Bechtel murals of Denver International:tinfoilhat:

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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:23 AM
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11. The Swastika arrangement of the runways is there is what hit me
like a glass of cold ice water in the face.

I play Flight Simulator a lot, and I'd never seen anything like that. Most major airports have a network of a few parallel runways to take care of the compass rose.

:scared:
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:16 AM
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8. Kick...
...just because it's too weird to wrap my mind around...
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:20 AM
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10. OneBlueSky, both of your geocities hyperlinks are "not available"
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 10:21 AM by bobthedrummer
now.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:38 AM
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16. Here's another site that talks about the murals
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:59 AM
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25. Scary,scary,scary .
What are they up to...
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:15 PM
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33. well that just totally creeped me out
A holding area for people??? :scared:
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:37 PM
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38. Sorry..
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 01:38 PM by Buddyblazon
reposted at the bottom of page.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:24 AM
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18. hmm . . . they were both available two hours ago . . .
when I posted this . . . maybe we're exceeding this person's bandwidth allocation or something . . . :shrug:
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:06 PM
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97. Maybe
I think there's something else going on.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:32 AM
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13. Here's a sattelite image of the runways.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:10 PM
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60. Yeah...that's pretty weird.
NT!

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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:35 AM
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15. Google Cache Versions of the GeoCities Links
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:42 AM
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19. Lovely murals
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 11:44 AM by seemslikeadream

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:48 AM
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20. Cover art of Dr Leonard Horowitz's Death in the Air:
same picture



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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:50 AM
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21. My God,that is truly frightening
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:54 AM
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22. A truely welcoming site for the visitors to DIA
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:56 AM
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23. Outrageous
Just plain f**king wierd.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:45 PM
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29. Seemslikeadream left out the best part
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 12:48 PM by Enraged_Ape
The part in the mural where the Nazi/gas masked/Skeletor figure is skewering a "peace dove" in the rear end with his sword.

I'm telling you, there is something SERIOUSLY messed up with all of this. I'm not a tinfoil-hat dude usually, but this is just too weird.

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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:14 PM
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49. Here:


Leo Tanguma's highly symbolic and optimistic "Torch of Quetzalcoatl," exhibited at the Denver Art Museum, portrays "what our community has overcome" in the lower depths; in the center are contemporary Coloradan Latinos, enlightened and guided by the torch's glow, and figures from Aztec mythology and legend, including La Llorona, who finds her children here. Photo by Bea Roede, 1991. How may Aztec and Chicano symbols can your class identify? The bird at center top is a quetzal. There is is a strong traditionof social activist muralism in Mexican and Chicano arts. Mr. Tanguma has worked on murals with students and communities around the state, as has another fine muralist, Emanuel Martinez.

http://www.coloarts.state.co.us/tiesbind_fr.asp
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:58 AM
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24. DIA doesn't have mountains all around and is not in a valley.
So much for that first link.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:15 PM
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26. Check out this deciphering of the floor.
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 12:57 PM by rockymountaindem
http://www.mt.net/~watcher/denverairportfloordeciphered.html

Evidently most of them are Navajo words making referance to a sacred "white mountain", in Colorado, known today as Mt. Blanco.

On edit:

A lot of one of those sites linked to here contains a ton of RW bull and anti-Semetic lines about how the Star of David is really a pagan symbol about lucifer and how "God" as we understand Him is really some evil dude.

The oddball murals are pretty disturbing; but if you're known by the company you keep, the rest of those sites discredit themselves. Nazis? An underground warren of aliens?

Another thing.... why would the world conspiracy build all this super secret, dangerous stuff in a location that is trafficked by millions of people per year? Wouldn't that make things a little hard to hide? I know if I were building some super-secret hub of evil, I'd put it in some out of the way place, not a center of international travel.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:40 PM
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40. DIA was built on some sacred native american ground.
I remember when it was built. Many of the contracts came from African American and minority contractors.

This thread really has me laughing!
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:17 PM
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50. Yeah, it's a laugh riot... *not*.
However, I will admit that those murals, as they were and some of them still are now, are pretty disturbing. I remember, though I was pretty young at the time, that there was some controversy when they were unveiled.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:27 PM
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53. I think you misunderstand.
Art is disturbing at times. DIA was built with an understanding of minorities and wanted art that reflected history of minorities.

The reason I'm laughing is that the art is there for the *opposite* reason that some people currently claim!

Look:

August 16, 2004

Mayor John W. Hickenlooper
1437 Bannock Street, Ste. 350
Denver, Colorado 80202

Dear Mayor Hickenlooper,

The National Coalition Against Censorship, an alliance of 50 national non-profit organizations that collaborate to defend First Amendment rights, and the American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado, have been alerted to the recent removal of several works of art from an installation at Denver International Airport. This action has serious First Amendment implications, and we strongly urge you to reconsider.

“The Luggage Project” received approval from the DIA arts program and was installed at DIA on July 7, 2004. Two days later, on July 9, three of the works in the installation were removed, apparently in response to complaints from persons who believed that the pieces were “offensive,” “disturbing,” and “inappropriate.” According to DIA officials, the removed artworks also violated an airport policy banning art containing “violence” or “political statements.” The allegedly objectionable material included box cutters, red paint splatter, political bumper stickers, and toy missiles.

Official suppression of disfavored, unpopular, and controversial ideas and viewpoints is the chief evil targeted by the First Amendment. The works in question offer artists’ reflections on the theme of travel, and include personal perspectives on recent national events. That they provoked discussion and thought is their virtue, not their defect. To silence dialogue on issues which lie at the center of American society is the most destructive kind of censorship; it violates not only the principle of free speech, but also disrupts the fundamental national ideal of democratic debate.

Plainly, complaints that the works are “offensive” triggered their removal. In responding as it did to these complaints, the city conferred its official stamp of approval on this viewpoint, while suppressing other views about the meaning and suitability of the art. Courts have consistently condemned government efforts to suppress particular viewpoints while permitting others to be expressed. Even the mere appearance of viewpoint discrimination has been enough for federal courts to strike down government display restrictions. (See AIDS Action Committee v. Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority, 42 F.3d 1 (1st Cir., 1994).)

The removal of the pieces cannot be justified as an effort to rid the airport of reminders about the events of September 11th. This would be patently absurd. Airports across the country are replete with reminders of terrorism and national security issues, from the presence of armed uniformed officers to increased security provisions and signs about terrorism. Nor is the alleged policy against “violent” and “political” content an adequate explanation. First of all, it lacks credibility, given the murals by Leo Tanguma permanently installed in the airport. These murals contain dead bodies, machine guns, and demonic figures—images that, by comparison, highlight the innocuousness of the splattered paint at issue in the removed works. Second, it disregards the crucial value of political speech in a democratic society. And finally, such a general ban invites abuse, since the determination of what is “political” or “violent” is highly subjective. Such unbounded discretion is inconsistent with the First Amendment.

One of the three works initially removed from the installation was subsequently restored because, according to the official responsible, it was only “borderline offensive”—a fact that demonstrates the ultimate arbitrariness of the decision. The lack of consistency and the arbitrary exercise of discretion create a chilling effect on expression. Comparably vague standards of decision and the inevitably inconsistent enforcement they engender have persuaded federal courts to invalidate similar policies on First Amendment grounds. (See Planned Parenthood Association v. Chicago Transit Authority, 767 F. 2d 1225 (7th Cir., 1985); Hopper v. City of Pasco, 241 F.3d 1067 (9th Cir., 2001).)

For the above reasons, we urge you to reconsider the removal of artwork from “The Luggage Project.” Such censorious action not only violates the principles of free expression that are enshrined in the First Amendment; it also contradicts the Denver International Airport’s efforts to support the arts. Early this year, the Los Angeles International Airport rejected similar complaints about an arts installation, and instead embraced the idea that public art should promote open dialogue, not official orthodoxy. To remain a world-class airport renowned for its architectural and aesthetic achievements, DIA should do the same.

Svetlana Mintcheva
Director, Arts Program
National Coalition Against Censorship

Mark Silverstein
Legal Director
ACLU of Colorado

cc: Denise Montgomery, Director, Mayor’s Office of Art, Culture and Film
Elbra Wedgeworth, President, City CouncilSvetlana Mintcheva
Director, Arts Program
National Coalition Against Censorship

Mark Silverstein
Legal Director
ACLU of Colorado


http://www.ncac.org/issues/luggageprojectletter.htm
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:17 PM
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64. The tinfoil may be funny, but building on sacred ground is not.
But then, when did Whitey care about Native Americans?

(Whitey, of course, being the prototypical Great White Hunter pro-Manifest Destiny type.)

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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 04:10 PM
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70. Ask Wellington Webb.
He oversaw the construction of Denver International Airport.

Since at least part of it was buildt on sacred ground, there are many native American references throughout the whole thing. Mt. Blanco is just one of them.

The airport was a tribute to minorities in general. Minority contractos built it.

And now we have people in this thread making fun of Latino/minority art.

I really wish people would stop being so reactionary and start to look at some facts.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 04:20 PM
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72. No one's making fun of it
We are just seriously wondering why images such as this are part of it:

"Welcome to Denver!"

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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 04:31 PM
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73. And please explain to me the "facts" behind this image
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 04:34 PM by Enraged_Ape


A dead Jewish girl clutching a Star of David and lying in a casket. This is one of several "dead woman" images the mural features. Another one depicts a dead Native American woman lying in a casket.

So go ahead. I really want to hear "the facts". Somehow visitors to Denver are supposed to be enticed into buying a Cinnabon cinnamon roll, a Sbarro pizza, and a Denver Broncos T-Shirt in the airport stores--all by viewing these disgusting images.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 05:16 PM
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77. Is that the purpose of art? To sell Broncos T-shirts and Cinnabon
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 05:18 PM by janx
rolls?

How do you know this girl is Jewish? I see no star of David. I see a cross.

I'll wager you've never seen Guernica up close and personal. It wouldn't sell many T-shirts or doughnuts either.

What do we do with "disturbing" or "disgusting" books? Burn them? Remove them from public access? Ban them?



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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 06:14 PM
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81. I've got a print of Guernica sitting behind me....
it's gruesome.

I agree looking at the original murals. Despite the dreary message...they certainly were beautiful and stirred thought.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 05:09 PM
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76. Well, I'M not making fun of the art, but it sure is weird.
Not my cup o' tea.

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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 12:51 PM
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30. It kind of looks like it
The only thing is, I'm not sure there's anything too "Neo" (new) about them.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:22 PM
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34. kick
for that whacky Saturday afternoon crowd. :kick:

This is some scary stuff, people.
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:30 PM
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35. I spent the last hour reading the links in #16
Whacky Saturday ,indeed.I hope I can sleep tonite!
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:34 PM
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36. I travel a lot out of DIA...
and during the summers...my seasonal job takes me there at LEAST 2 to 3 times a week.


I'm a tinfoil hatter myself....

but this one is a stretch.

If you want to have fun on a boring Sat afternoon that's fine, but methinks this one is just out and out silly. And this from a guy who visits that airport more times in week than many of you will visit in a lifetime.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:40 PM
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41. Fair enough
Tell me that you don't find this image somewhat...diseased. Particularly in a freaking airport.

"Welcome to Denver!"

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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:43 PM
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42. Truthfully...
I have never noticed it.

But as you can see in the post below...I'm open to actually LOOKING and taking NOTE today.

Think of me as your canary in a coalmine.

:)
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:45 PM
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43. Sounds good
Please keep in mind that two of the four murals have been painted over since they were first created, most likely due to public outcry--because let's face it, they were just sick.
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:51 PM
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44. Well the one I've always noticed is...
the one that's sort of a characture of the map of the US.

It's actually pretty cheesy. It reminds me of something that should be on the wall at a Cracker Barrel (what an oddly fitting name for that restaurant chain...wouldn't ya say?).

BTW...as one of the first persons to put his name on Conyers petition (and yes my legitimate name and address...but I did hesitate)...do you think that carrying a digital camera around the airport while snapping off shots (but not flying anywhere) would get me trailed by guys in black suburbans?

Just wonderin'. LOL!

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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:53 PM
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45. You raise a good point
Just pretend you're taking pictures of incoming friends there.

Good luck! :)
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:58 PM
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46. Gee...that's very White of you. LOL!
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 01:59 PM by Buddyblazon
:rofl:

See I'm tinfoil hat enough to be freaked out about snapping pics in an airport.

Sorry...I'll look around with an open mind and verbally verify anything you guys want. But now the thought of taking shots of the inside of an airport without permission...uh...maybe the next time I personally fly back in or out of the airport.


edited for artistic sake of smilie.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:05 PM
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47. What can I say? I'm a white guy.
Seriously, watch your back. Also look for the Masonic plaque that features a weird arch and keypad that no one knows the purpose for. You can Google its image ("Denver airport keypad"), but for some weird reason, I can't post it.

I very much look forward to your report. Thanks for doing this.
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:19 PM
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51. Well one of these sites asked what was going on underground...
at DIA.

I can tell you...it's miles and miles of track for an automated baggage system. It was the bane (sp?) of the Airports early years. It was one of the reason for the delays in opening. And when it did finally open...it took years for them to finally get it right.

Little carts with carrying cases on top carry each individual bag from the plane to the baggage carousel. It is quite a long way they have to travel...as one would know from the fact that there is a subway train from the main terminal to the 3 concourses.

But I've never actually been down there.

I do know as a teenager we would drive way out in the country (where it is located) to try to see the progress...but we could only see the lights of the site at night...as they wouldn't let you within a mile of the place. To be fair...there were not only building a massive airport...but also a ten mile stretch of Freeway (known as Pena BLVD after the former mayor) to get all the way out to it. We had to make our approach from 2 lane country roads miles from any type of houses.

We would see the glow of lights from over the rolling hills and make up our own theories about area 51 and aliens. Of course we were teenagers....and usually stoned. ;)
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:38 PM
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55. I don't think you were quite as stoned as you thought you were
In my experience, there is usually a good reason for extreme measures of secrecy.
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:59 PM
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57. Yea....
one dirt road in and out of a massive decade long build that employees thousands of workers...and shuttles hundreds of trucks a day.

It was just so far out...and building a large freeway for such a significant distance takes time.

So they had to start the construction by accessing the site the ONLY way they could...via a long dirt road off of a tiny country road. There was nothing out there.

It was either that...or wait 6-7 years until they finished Pena Blvd.

With such an obvious bottleneck...they couldn't have all of us curious (and the whole city was curious) people driving up and down that small dirt road. They worked 24/7.

It got to a point at the end where there were so many cars driving up and down the paved country road...that there would be near traffic jams on Saturday's and Sunday's from families trying to catch a glimpse.

It would've been ridiculous to let the public up and down that dirt access road.

Could it have been another reason? Sure. But the above reason seemed pretty obvious to us at the time. We once spent a whole day trying to find another road in. The best we found was the top of a hill about two miles away that we could look down on the site at night...it was so far away you couldn't actually make out what they were doing.
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Joebert Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:23 PM
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65. I'm up in Loveland, an hour away (for the non-Coloradoans)
I will be at DIA in a couple weeks to pick up my brother and sister.

I will take my camera and wander a bit as well.

If you're looking for somebody to follow you around, watching for black suburbans, let me know. :-)
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:08 PM
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48. Here:
http://psych.colorado.edu/~dciarlo/trans3.html

To illustrate making dreams come true, let me introduce you to Leo Tanguma (2), an artist whose murals are in the central public space in Denver International Airport. Tanguma is a Mexican American who grew up in poverty in Texas, has only a 6th grade education and no formal art training. He submitted his work in competition with many others when the airport was being built a few years ago. A committee of art experts chose his work for the airport’s walls.
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:22 PM
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52. Thanks...
doesn't look like a Mason...or Illuminati.

Of course...I have no idea what one would look like.:shrug:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:35 PM
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54. What is the secret implication of those PROPELLERS
on the walls of the train tunnel?!

Be sure to take notes and report back! ;-)
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:48 PM
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56. I've seen those many many times....
the spin whenever a train speeds by them at 60-70mph. It's art. The had some other objects up on the walls in the tunnels as well. But I can't recall them because the propellers are too cool to me.

Hundreds of them...you can see them coming up...and if you stare in one spot and do not move your eyes as you pass them they create an interesting shimmer as they all blur into one mass.


Listen...DIA is a beautiful airport. I pick up production crews that are in town for a few days at a time. And 90% comment about how much they dig the airport. Not only the esthetic beauty (they like the roof that represents the mountains)...but also the smart lay out and function of the airport. They like the fact that you move a great distance...in a short amount of time...and from concourse to carousel to curb...is very fluid.

And it's set up well to expand. It's designed with the subway line in mind. Once growth requires another concourse...you build a new one...extend the subway...and TA DA! You're done.
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:05 PM
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58. BTW...
they have the same sort of thing on the walls of the subway in LA.

So it's not of an unheard of thing.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:12 PM
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61. My comment was meant to be a joke--
;-)
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:15 PM
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63. Shit...sorry...
Without voice inflection...it's difficult to tell the difference sometimes.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:10 PM
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59. I'm not particularly taken with it
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 03:11 PM by janx
but I'm not stupid enough to believe the conspiracy theory (even the satiric one laid out in this thread) about it. It really makes me wonder about those in this thread who seem to be pretending to push the theory.

I have to drive almost an hour and a half out onto the plains just to get there. It's not my favorite place.



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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:14 PM
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62. Well it was built for the future of the city.
It's easily expandable out there. The city has caught up with it...with massive development going on out there.

Plus...what they've done (and are doing) with the old Stapleton area is pretty impressive.

But yes...it's pretty far out there.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 04:46 PM
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75. I also loooooove DIA.
Yeah, that baggage thing was a problem, but it's fixed now.

I travel to and from the University of Toronto a few times a year, and DIA beats the heck out of Prime Minister Lester B. Pearson Int'l and the Cincinatti airport. Both of them are sprawling messes with satellite terminals and extraneous stuff all over.

DIA is much simpler, as you have pointed out. Get off the subway and turn left or right to get to your gate. Simple as that. No tiny shuttle buses driving you around on the tarmac (that is scary as hell) or walking miles like I did at the airport in Minneapolis/St. Paul, which is a big rectangle with terminals going up to the letter J and with no way to cut directly across the rectangle. I had to wall all the way around.

Ahhhh... DIA, form meets function... with some conspiracy theories thrown in for good measure.
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 05:52 PM
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79. I remember when it was being built....
at one point...Los Angelenos were making fun of us because we were spending five billion to build it.

Then after DIA was done...I moved to LA for a couple of years. They decided to do an update to LAX when I was there. AN UPDATE ONLY (because it is a worthless airport in an area that you CAN'T expand)...and they were spending 6 BILLION!

Who got the raw end of that deal?


DIA is an airport built with at least 50 years in mind. And considering the growth rate in the metropolitan area (hasn't it more than tripled in size and population?)...it was pretty smart. We are just getting to many new people from Cali, Texas, and the east coast NOT to make sure it wouldn't be obsolete in a couple of decades.



I've flown into a lot of airports...and have yet to find even one with the size and efficiency of DIA.
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:38 PM
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39. In fact....
I'm going there in a few hours.

I will specifically look for the things that anybody lists here.

You let me know...and I will try to go find them. I'll list my findings tomorrow.

So...list away.

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Joebert Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:27 PM
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66. Find the keypad, and get closer shots at different angles, if you can.
Directions to where it is in the airport would be cool as well, since I can go take a look in a couple weeks.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 03:57 PM
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68. Yeah, I want to know more about this keypad
And Buddyblazon, if we don't hear from you ever again, we will remember you as someone with true grit. You were the real deal.

:toast:
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 05:54 PM
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80. Dude....
reallistically...I'd wet my pants if the MiB's shuffled me into a Suburban.

My hysterical blubbering would probably force them into releasing me.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 06:47 PM
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83. please take pictures of aliens you see
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 06:48 PM by SlavesandBulldozers
no aliens are too mundane: greys, greens, the ones with little horns jutting out of their skulls, it doesn't matter. We're going to get to the bottom of this little caper. ;)
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 04:06 PM
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69. I might fly there in a couple months.
Wow.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 04:10 PM
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71. I used to travel on business 2 weeks out of every 4...
and I never once made it through the Denver airport. And I only live just a few hours away.

Go figure that. Now I want to go there so bad just to see all this stuff that is freaking me out.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 04:35 PM
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74. I've had the "Artist" speak to the campus Art club, in essence
she hate whitey.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 06:23 PM
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82. Just another reason why they need to be stopped.
It's not just for the fact they broke laws everywhere, but they are also criminally insane and many hold the firm belief they are in fact reptiles.

Should anybody in the world be prescribing this madness to continue? Whomever you are, or where you come from, you should definitely oppose this insane childishness.

There is nothing good about promoting a plot that claims to be for god but is for Satan, and now I have to wonder......What did they do to the Denver International Airport for the past 8 years.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:02 PM
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84. they had to renovate parts of it for the mothership landing
Edited on Sat Jun-04-05 07:15 PM by SlavesandBulldozers
turns out when The Greys (who prefer to be called "Zublazons") inspected the place it didn't meet the standardly held specifications of the Zublazon-3 galaxy motherships. What really happened was the Zublazons had changed the mothership's wingspan without telling us - and here we were making the landing port based on the mothership's old specs!!!

Of course you don't just go around telling the Greys its their fault. They don't take kindly to finger-pointing, and are notorious shirkers of responsibility. But man you should have seen the look in those HUGE EYES when they realized the fucking place wasn't being built right - I mean shit they expected everything to be done and here we were having to rebuild it.

I'll never forget how, when they realized we had fucked up, they decapitated my foreman like they were popping a soda bottle and drank the blood as it rained down from the stump of his neck. That guy was a dick anyway and his replacement was really cool so it all worked out.

So anyway, those who wanted to be taken aboard the mothership had to gut and completely rebuild the sub-surface landing port just to make spec. It was a real bitch I tell you, but the offer of infinite life, and all the Christian blood one can drink - really got us moving on those renovations!!

On edit: I'm happy to report that life in Zublazon-3 is great. Basic lodging here is a little pricier than in Denver, but the upside is that everything is within floating distance here and I don't need a spaceship to get groceries.
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:39 PM
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86. "Of course you don't just go around telling the Greys its their fault. ...
They don't take kindly to finger-pointing, and are notorious shirkers of responsibility."


So what? The earth is being invaded by Republican aliens???


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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 08:05 PM
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90. heheh exactly
see now everything makes sense right?
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 08:15 PM
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91. Damn...
And I thought Republican neighbors were bad.


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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 09:35 PM
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94. imagine a whole planet of them.
well actually its not a whole lot different then Florida.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:26 PM
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85. whoa
this is some weird shite, even for my :tinfoilhat: wearing self. anyone seen the trailers for 'war of the worlds'? :scared:
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 07:42 PM
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87. Up the weirdness one notch.
The DIA looks exactly like a new (back then i.e. mid eighties) stadium built outside Riyadh Saudi Arabia. It was not far outside the compound where I lived, and at night, it glowed like that.


Built for camel racing. Indoor camel races. What'll they think of next.


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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 08:01 PM
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89. ATTENTION...I'M BACK FROM DIA!!!!!
Those murals...we didn't find them. The ones that I did see were of Colorado cultural scenes (i.e. Native Americans, settlers, miners).

We found that sundial. It does indeed have a Masonic symbol on it. But that's who donated it. A few words on the name of the lodge. And it takes about Wellington Webb. Its a time capsule and it gives the date to be opened...2094.

And that's it. The dial over the top is a brail (sp?) plaque. Maybe if we got a blind person in there...it gives a secret message.

Well...my friend is in from San Fran. We going to get totally pissed.

Have a great night. I love y'all here on DU.:toast: :grouphug:
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 08:16 PM
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92. Thanks, Buddy
You have nerves of steel. I :beer: to you.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 09:18 AM
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99. Did you take any pictures?
Just askin'.
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 08:24 PM
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93. Just what I would want to see before or after flying...
Darth Vader murdering children and destroying civilization.
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dejaboutique Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:30 PM
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95. kick for wierdness
kick
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 10:41 PM
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96. kick again for its fuckedupness
:kick:
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