BFEE: George Bush didn't go AWOL but was involved in Operation Condor

[DrDebug]

I'm trying to work on the demopedia a bit and this is really weird, but I'm seeing something interesting from these stories.

In 1971 Robert Gow who previously bought Zapata Oil from George H.W. Bush hired George W. Bush for Stratford.

His job has been reported as involving:
* flying planes to Florida to investigate plant nurseries
* flying to Guatemala
* doing something (I don't know what) with chicken manure fertilizer
* analyzing expansion possibilities for the chicken and egg business
* investigating the purchase of a mushroom farm in Pennsylvania, and
management training

Quite a diverse experience, I'd say.

Now Bush's Stratford job could have been entirely what it seems (i.e., Bush's father asked an old friend to hire him for a summer). Still, the varying stories of his job duties, as well as the fact that Bush flew to Guatemala, indicates at least the possibility that something else might have been going on there.

http://stuartbuck.blogspot.com/2004/06/bush-in-early-1970s.html

Conventional wisdom about George W. Bush is that he spent the more poorly- documented stretches of his Guard service somewhere with his cowboy boots up on a desk, pulling the tab on another ‘tall cold one.’ The questions being asked are on the order of: Did daddy pull strings to get him a cozy billet? Did he actually show up for duty?

But conventional wisdom has a way of often being wrong. Evidence unearthed in our investigation indicates that George W. Bush, while supposedly serving in the Texas Guard in 1971, may instead have been detailed to the massive covert operation of the U.S. government going on at that very moment in Central America.

Did George W. Bush take part in Operation Condor? (...) But the MadCowMorningNews has uncovered indications that George W. Bush was in Central America serving a ‘tour of duty’ in a shadowy arm of the U.S. Government which Watergate burglar and disgraced CIA Agent E. Howard Hunt called “Clandestine Services.”

The Secret History of the Alabama Guard

and more... http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0402/S00236.htm

Secret History of the Alabama Guard info at http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Operation_Zapata

Robert Gow info at http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Robert_Gow

Operation Condor at
http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Operation_Condor

So what did George do in 1971? Was he already part of the CIA like his dad and was that the reason for not showing up at the Texas Airguard because he wasn't there anymore...

[merh]

1. No, he was drunk in Alabama, playing tennis, pretending to

be a hot shot cowboy and helping a repuke run his election (though the other election workers thought him an ass and spoiled rich boy.)

He wasn't CIA - he was the same snot nosed, privileged shit he is today. Only thing that is different, he had more brain cells then. He hadn't killed them all yet.

:hi:

[dogday]

3. It is More Like Operation Bud and Beer

kicking back and getting high....

[merh]

9. I would venture to guess it was Old Milwaukee or Pabst Blue Ribbon

but you may be right. ;-)

Ask the family that would like to have the blivet's family pay for the damages to their home he rented while he was in Montgomery. He wasn't on any mission other than the mission of GWB, fake cowboy and suck up to old blue hairs even then.

[DrDebug]

4. It sounds more that his dad send him there

It's typical Bush sr. style. He was hired by a guy who just bought dad's old business.

[jody]

2. Dubya's missing ANG time was from May 72 through April 73. He was in

Montgomery Alabama from late summer 72 through early January 73 working on Blount's campaign for the Senate. The records covering that period are well documented so I suggest you google for the data.

[DrDebug]

5. I know he was hired one year earlier

So he worked for the company before being 'send' off then we AWOLed.

[babylonsister]

6. I think if the blivet had been involved with the CIA, he

would have been shouting it from the rooftops, even if he was unable to be specific. His silence has been deafening.

[merh]

7. Exactly!

:thumbsup:

Fake turkey, fake flightsuit, fake man!

Actually, they tried to spin this "theory" before the election.
LOL, nobody bought it. :rofl:

[Kansas Wyatt]

8. Importing drugs from Central America through the CIA?

:shrug:

He did manage to do community service in Houston during the first part of 1972, and he was the only one required to log his hours. Maybe he stuck his nose into too much of the imports, and something was scrubbed from his record.

[DrDebug]

11. Plants and mushrooms sounds like drugs

They flew all over the place. Especially Central America and he talked about plants a lot. And the company later goes bust like Arbusto...

"We weren't looking for someone, but I thought this would be a talented guy we should hire, and he was available," Gow said. In early 1971, Gow gave Bush a job as a management trainee. He was required to wear a coat and tie and dispatched around the country and even to Central America, looking for plant nurseries that Stratford might acquire. The newly buttoned-down businessman also moved into a garage apartment that he shared with Ensenat off Houston's North Boulevard, an old 1920s neighborhood close to downtown.

"We traveled to all kinds of peculiar places, like Apopka, Florida, which was named the foliage capital of the world," said Peter C. Knudtzon, another Zapata alumnus who was Stratford's executive vice president and Bush's immediate boss.

Once or twice a month, Bush would announce that he had flight duty and off he would go, sometimes taking his F-102 from Houston to Orlando and back. "It was really quite amazing," Knudtzon said. "Here was this young guy making acquisitions of tropical plants and then up and leaving to fly fighter planes."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/bush072899.htm

[aquart]

12. Do something dangerous? But then he would have to be

NOT a coward.

And the one thing I can absolutely guarantee you is that George W. Bush IS a coward.

[DrDebug]

13. He would wear a suit

So he could be 'checking' the merchandise. It doesn't sound like he was the fighter.

[kliljedahl]

10. "mushroom farm in Pennsylvania"?

HHMMMM???


Keith’s Barbeque Central

[punpirate]

14. If Bush was...

... ever involved with the CIA, it would have been for a very short time--they, I imagine, don't take kindly to their employees siphoning as much of the product up their noses as possible whenever the opportunity might arise.

What's the simpler explanation? Bush has screwed up every real job he's ever had. Why wouldn't it be more plausible that someone whose daddy has steered him out of trouble at every sign of trouble would have gotten a sinecure with one of Poppy's old Republican friends?

Besides, as others have mentioned, he didn't arrive in Alabama until May or June, 1972, and there are interviews with principals as to why he was sent there by his father. He was screwing up all over Houston and they needed to get him out of state for a while. There were interviews with people at the time in Alabama who knew he was a regular at Blount's campaign headquarters because of his chronic late arrivals and bragging.

All in all, doesn't sound like a drug-runnin' super-spy to me.