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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:10 PM
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Freepers are having a book burning! Let's have one too!
But seeing how we can actually read, We can do it on a critical level instead of ideological level. We can only nominate books we have actually read. Or attempted to get through several times and couldn't endure the torture. I've never read Ann Coulter or Sean Hannity, so I can't nominate them. But I'll start off with the 3 worst books I've ever read.

#1 The Celestine Prophecy.
This has got to be the all-time, dumb-assed book in history. It was so bad, I couldn't put it down, because it had to get better. It didn't.

#2 Say A Prayer For Owen Meany.
This book was incredibly bad. I could never get more than halfway through it. And they actually made a movie based on it. I donated it to Goodwill, just to get it out of the house.

#3 A Man In Full.
And I like Tom Wolfe. But after wading through about 800 pages of this mind-numbing shit, and coming to the even dumber conclusion, I gave it to a freeper in the hospital. I think he died of boredom.


Any more suggestions?
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:12 PM
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1. The entire Left Behind series.
Hell, anything written by Tim LaHaye.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:35 PM
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20. I second that-ALL The Left Behind Series! eom
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:12 PM
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2. Ulysses by James Joyce
I do give credit to anyone who can read beyond the first 20 pages, which is about where I gave up on it. It was completely indecipherable for me.

Not that it should really be burned, no book should. It's just a useless book, imo.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:18 PM
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12. Heck, that's not even his worst...
You ever try to get through Finnegan's Wake?
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:32 PM
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19. I recommend Mary Higgins Clark with a chaser of Jewel's poetry
Is there a smiley for "every time someone on the left trashes the avant-garde, a kitten in heaven dies?"

:eyes:
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:41 PM
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22. I made it through it and liked it
I also had to do a lot of research on in it before and as I read it.

That's my biggest complaint about a book like this: If an average reader (e.g., not a PhD in modern Irish literature) can't just pick it up and read it without a lot of research about it first, it's kind of "useless", as you say.

However, for anyone who wants to take the time to read about what Joyce is trying to do in this book, I recommend it.
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EnfantTerrible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:12 PM
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3. I suggest
that we don't even joke about this topic.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:13 PM
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4. I liked "A Prayer for Owen Meany"
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:54 PM
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27. that book had me peeing in my pants
the movie sucked ass
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:13 PM
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5. I suggest not burning any books
Support the 1st Amendment, just say no to book burning.
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impeachthescoundrel Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:17 PM
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10. Count me out
Edited on Tue May-31-05 12:21 PM by impeachthescoundrel
When I was young the church I went to had a mass rock album burning. Needless to say I never returned. This is not a good idea, with all due respect.And doing ANYTHING a freeper would do just is just not a part of my nature.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:19 PM
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13. I'm talking figurativly.
I really want book criticism. I don't burn any books. I donate them all to charity or libraries. Even the bad ones. And I've donated thousands over the last 25 years or so.
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:35 PM
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21. I have to agree...
Advocating book burning is bad on any level, although as destructive and deceptive as some books are (especially some of the "non-fiction") I understand the urge...
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:03 PM
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28. There's book burning, and there's book burning.
Raiding the library and pulling things off the shelves to keep OTHERS from reading them is unthinkable.

But there was a time that I came across a secondhand copy of 'None Dare Call It Treason' and bought it, just to see what it was. I got about a third the way through it and gave up, and it wound up on my bookshelf for the next many years. When moving, a couple years ago, I was divesting of excess literature and came across it and admit to a deeply felt pleasure at destroying that piece of trash. My property; my right to dispose of it as I please. And I was pleased.

That's not censorship. It's just cleaning house.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:14 PM
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6. This would be EASY, most of the RW "news" sites sell the RW...
..."books" by the members of the "RW Hate Machine" for 3-for $1.00, sometimes even 5 for $1.00:evilgrin:
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bamademo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:14 PM
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7. I read the Celestine Prophecy but I don't remember what it's about
???
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:15 PM
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8. Lucky you.
Unfortunately, I can still remember it.
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:29 PM
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17. was it about something?
I missed that part.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:31 PM
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18. The tree was green. It was good.
Edited on Tue May-31-05 12:32 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
It was a new age "See Dick Run" reader.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:17 PM
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9. Mein Kampf. Atlas Shrugged.
I know they list 'Mein Kampf' on their list, but anyone with more than 1/2 a brain knows that Hitler was no left-winger.

Atlas Shrugged has some redeeming value, but to modern Republicans, it's gospel truth.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:47 PM
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24. I'm always surprised when rightwingers tell me Hitler was a socialist
I think I finally got one to ackowledge Hitler was on the right, but I had to inundate him with lots of email evidence that he couldn't refute first. And even then, I still think he wasn't entirely convinced.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:03 PM
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32. It's impossible for them to get past the party name.
Unfortunately for Germans who thought otherwise in the 1930's, Hitler HATED communists and labor unions (which he identified as communist influenced). His strongest party alliances were with ultra-right-wing nationalist parties, not Social Democrats or Moderates. His biggest monetary supporters were anti-communist industrialists and bankers, and his biggest antagonists were left-wingers and intellectuals.

How anyone that has done ANY actual reading about WWII Germany could imply Hitler was a socialist is beyond me.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:18 PM
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11. I would never think of burning a book...
ANY book, whether I find its contents reprehensible or not.

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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:21 PM
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14. Ann Coulter's screeds would be fun to watch burn. n/t
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EnfantTerrible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:06 PM
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35. Keep them as a cautionary tale
so that future generations can see the effects of hair dye on the brain.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:22 PM
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15. "the Late Great Planet Earth"
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:26 PM
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16. Let's not, why should we be just as ignorant and intolerant as they are?
If you endorse book burning and censorship from the liberal end of the spectrum, you must also allow it from the conservative end. Thus, all books are burned and we are left much poorer because of it.

Let's just leave it at being for the concept of free speech.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:42 PM
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23. See post #13
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:51 PM
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25. don't burn em, compost them
anything by hannity, coulter, limbaugh, savage(weiner) ...
is mostly poo poo anyway ;):smoke:
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 12:53 PM
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26. As tempting as it is to torch the collected "works" of Coulter, Malkin,
Horowitz, Rush, Morris, et al, ad nauseaum, I just can't consent to any book-burning, virtual or otherwise.

Our freedoms of speech and expression were hard-won, and it's been a continuing battle.

All tyrants eventually fall, and someday, these volumes will illustrate just how far off its moorings our country really was.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:08 PM
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30. I agree.
Their list is not about burning the books in the first place. It's the books they find "harmful" although they don't define that. I would never burn a book, regardless of its contents. Even an Ann Coulter book, as painful as that is to say. Let's not stoop to their level of ignorance.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:04 PM
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29. I don't burn books
It's not good for the right - it's not good for the left. I appreciate your sentiment though. :)
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 01:44 PM
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31. The Main Question.
The main question behind book burnings is, "Who decides?"

That's always the problem. And that's precisely why the answer is to not burn any books for any reason.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:05 PM
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33. I hope its as successful as thier boycott of French products
Where the dumbasses went out and bought French wine so they could pour it down the drain or in the sewer.

I hope they rush out to bookstores to buy left wing books and burn them.

They seem to forget the most important aspect: You are still paying and supporting those who you are "protesting".
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:06 PM
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34. Let's not lower ourselves
I suggest locking.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:08 PM
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36. Nope. Take them to Half Price Books.....
They'll take ANYTHING!
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ElaineinIN Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:10 PM
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37. While I don't support book burning or censorship of any kind...
I wouldn't mind if every copy of the DaVinci Code and anything that starts with "Chicken Soup for the" would spontaneously combust...
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:10 PM
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38. I'm against book burning, but if Regnery Publishing caught fire
would it be arson or a patriotic act?
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:12 PM
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39. No offense, but what a really completely horrible dumb fucking idea.
Edited on Tue May-31-05 02:13 PM by Zorra

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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:15 PM
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40. In the spirit you intend, I recommend ANYTHING by Charlotte Lamb --
romance writer par AWFUL. Seriously, this woman (if it is a woman) had me actually throwing a book across the room in absolute frustration because apparently she is just SO POPULAR no one bothered to edit for complete sentences, or clarity, let alone spelling! I still shudder in horror whenever I think of it -- ARGH after all of these years!

I'm also going to add John Myers Myers supposed sequel to Silverlock to the list: it wasn't, and it was unbelievably awful. It was also a huge disappointment because, having just read Silverlock, I was looking forward to a delicious time. Grrr for misleading cover stuff; that one was TEDIOUS!!!
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:15 PM
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41. I nominate Robert Jordan's "Wheel of Time" megaseries
Should be called the "Waste of Time" series. The fact that it's yet another LOTR rip-off is only secondary to the sheer sluggishness and predictability of the plot.

Let's burn Raynd's "Fountainhead", too. Better written and faster read, but full to the brim with annoying pretentious bullshit.



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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 02:19 PM
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42. No way! The first few are pretty good --
although I did find five, six, and seven (where I finally quit until the series is finished) to be on the dull side. Anytime a book begins and ends in the same place, I start to get annoyed; doing it three times in a row was inexcusable. Yes, I get the analogy about the "wheel" -- now frickin' advance the plot already!

And I don't think it was a LOTR rip-off; I think he managed to create a fascinating and compelling world, with some amazing characters. The first one was almost impossible to put down, but its hard to live up to that kind of intensity in future books....

I'll save that series from the bonfire, thank you, at least until he finishes them up and I find out how everything ends....:)
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