My blog is under assault by the graveyard rats

[WilliamPitt]

http://blog.pdamerica.org/?p=92

[Nikki Stone 1]

1. Graveyard rats?

How can we help?

(Sorry if I'm not up on this.)

[sniffa]

2. um

what?

[yvr girl]

10. Last time Will posted about Andy

The comments were utterly vile. I can imagine what the deleted ones were like.

[sniffa]

34. i'm not seeing comments

:?

[yvr girl]

40. There are a bunch

http://blog.pdamerica.org/?p=92#comments

try again

[Name removed]

45. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Berserker]

95. Keyboard Warriors don't have any nuts

[sasquatch]

3. I guess that's better than bees

:D

[HEyHEY]

4. Can I make rude comments about their mothers?

[Shakespeare]

5. Somebody call the Boomtown Rats, and we'll have a rumble!

Seriously, though, those are vile people.

[Nikki Stone 1]

6. Who are they?

nt

[Stephanie]

28. They're deeply disturbed, inhumane, vindictive, pathetic losers

Who have nothing better to do but plot against a hospital patient who's fighting for his life. It's inexplicable. I've never met anyone this cruel in real life. Who can explain it?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1410544/posts?q=1&&page=764#764

[Bunny]

33. I think 'inexplicable' is the perfect way to describe this.

There is no rational or human explanation for them.

[applegrove]

57. They are taught and teach 'lack of empathy'. That is the only way

the Bush triblism and plans for the world can work. If Americans loose empathy.

[mzmolly]

63. They must have missed Sunday's sermon.

:eyes:

[Andromeda]

94. Eeewwwww...

I clicked on the link. Now I have to go take a shower.

[Redstone]

106. Perfect. PERFECT. There could not possibly be a better

description of these vermin than yours.

Redstone

[althecat]

114. Wow I wonder how bad a thread has to be to be pulled by Freeper Central

[sniffa]

7. what am i missing?

:wtf:

[Skittles]

12. SNIFFA

THERE YOU ARE MY SWEET :hi:

[sniffa]

35. hi there

you gonna kick my ass? :P

[Skittles]

147. I SHOULD G.D. IT

BUT I AM JUST SO DAMN HAPPY TO SEE YOU AGAIN!!!!! I WOULD MISS YOU TERRIBLY IF YOU WERE GONE FOR GOOD. Come on Sniffa, stay with us, we need you here! :D

[Ioo]

11. I thought

Boomtown Rats was a band in the UK, is this who we speak of?

http://www.boomtownrats.co.uk/

[Shakespeare]

46. Yes, I was riffing on the name.

Bob Geldoff would no doubt be gravely saddened to know that no one here remembers his band.

[Richard Steele]

100. Forget the Boomtown Rats? No way, NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS!

[Swamp Rat]

103. "Up all night...."

"Oooo stayed up all night!" :D

[yvr girl]

8. I was going to send you one of these just because you've been working

hard. Here's two bacause you've been dealing with asshats on top of it.






BTW, I hope they don't need to wait for the next life to be judged.

[The_Casual_Observer]

9. I am convinced that those dicks post from library prison computers

Only a rancid criminal mind would bother to spend time doing anything like that. It's the essence of evil.

[Generic Other]

13. Teeny tiny gentalia

but enormous assholes.

Toilet paper and disinfectant is your only option.

:hug:

[patricia92243]

14. What are you doing about it? n/t

[WilliamPitt]

15. Letting them post

for all to see.

[stevedeshazer]

16. And it's been discouraging so far....

Vile, evil people.

[Must_B_Free]

27. I'll flame them....

I know how to get their goat

[Protagoras]

86. Just picture them sitting all smug and pious

in Church on Sunday telling everyone how christlike they are before they sneak back home to masurbate over their hate porn against anyone who dares to see the world differently.

Picturing them like that usually lets me laugh off most of what they say.

I use my vote and my donations to help cancel the rest out.

Btw, how is Insoo?

[RobinA]

65. For What It's Worth

I think this is the best approach. I'm agnostic on the whole Andy thing, but I have followed it out of sociologic interest. This cutting off conversation about it is not the way to go, it just makes things look fishy, not to mention how authoritarian and conservative an approach it is. Let everybody speak and it'll go away. Cut off conversation and it just festers. Fact is, Andy put his medical condition out there to raise money, so the situation is fair game for discussion in the village square.

[Name removed]

144. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Swamp Rat]

17. You betta stop talkin' 'bout my cuzins like dis!

Dem "graveyard rats" are Democrats who live on da other side of da swamp an dey's not gonna like you yoozin' dem as an ezample, cher! It's dem rethuglican lizards dat be postin' da vile shite on yo blog... Let me at 'em! I'll bite dem on dey privates! :evilgrin:

See! Nous des rats sommes les bonnes "gens," cher!

[SpiralHawk]

20. Rats ! Yum ! Loves to bite they little feet

Little feet a treat to eat. - Hawk

[Swamp Rat]

23. Better watch it!

I eat a lot of Cayenne pepper and my cousins are waiting for you to leave your nest! :D

[Generic Other]

37. LOL. Love your poster!

It's hilarious!

[Nothing Without Hope]

68. Uh...that rat has the smallest...TAIL I have ever seen on a rat!

Is this Freudian?

[Swamp Rat]

69. Maybe, epecially if it concerns a sexual preference.

Where's Jung? :evilgrin:

[Nothing Without Hope]

73. LOL! Love the Curious George graphic - though malice was never part of

his nature as it is for the blivet**. I prefer Jung to Freud any day.

[Swamp Rat]

76. Thanks. It was originally part of this piece, but it took on a life of its

own. :D

[hiley]

82. SwampRat that has to be the best

pic ever !
That would make a great dart board .



Will Pitt,
I am sorry people are being so vile and repulsive on your blog, they have no shame or sense.
Maybe, you can delete it very soon it is horrible.... The roses are for you.. BTW! I understand why you are leaving them there now, after I read some more of what you have written .
pda is for business and they should leave Andy alone and you, well all of us.
hiley

roses for you because you do not deserve vile things written on your blog...

[Swamp Rat]

88. I agree hiley

Will doesn't deserve to have to waste his talent and time on lobotomized lizard drones.



Btw hiley, I saw your "IMPEACH HIM" link on presidentevilonline.com :thumbsup:

[hiley]

92. It feels terrible to be attacked the way that

Will is being attacked now and
Andy. I know some of the pain from being jumped on at kos over the fundraising, too.
Beth as been treated horrifically and deserves not one second of it.
Here at DU though almost all love and I cherish DUer's for helping Andy and working together as much as possible.
solidarity will get us through this and PNAC and Dictator Bush.
hiley



Swamp Rat
also, I saw your page too and I have your's bookmarked and love it, of course.
http://presidentevilonline.com/swamprat1.html
:hi:

[EFerrari]

97. What I love about your work is that you show them they way

they feel to me.

That's pretty brave.

:)

[Swamp Rat]

99. I can't help myself.

It's a cathartic exercise that helps me laugh at the monsters under the bed. My anger gets channeled into the kinesthetic process of painting and when it's all done, I get to laugh my ass off! :D Really! I laughed for hours last night at the Curious George pic, even as I was making it. :rofl: ... Free entertainment! :)

[Nothing Without Hope]

98. This is so great. And how appropriate that Pickles is GREEN!

:thumbsup: :applause:

[Swamp Rat]

101. Obrigado

It's close to Japanese. ;)

[SmokingJacket]

18. I LOOOOVe free speech...

but man, does it bring out the dingoes.

A :toast: for you, for putting up with it.

Thanks, btw, for your great posts about Andy.

[LeftyMom]

19. OMG!

These people are fucking evil. I mean I knew they were assholes, but some of that shit is just beyond the pale.

[WLKjr]

21. oh fuck........

damn, those are some harsh posts about someone that is proven to be sick and almost dead.

[EFerrari]

22. It would be helpful if you could tuck away some of these droppings

in a secured area or folder, as several of us are doing. Just in case they are needed in the future.

[Vladimir]

24. Some people are quite beneath contempt Will n/t

[wicket]

25. I just flamed one

Sometimes it's the only way to exterminate them. :evilgrin:

[anitar1]

26. Take Heart, I watched a show recently featuring

3 well known Dr.s of psychology and psychiatry, plus a profiler. They were discussing serial killers. Reporting on their long experience with people who are sociopaths and psychopaths. What struck me, is what one of the Dr.s said about this type of personality. "People try to understand them and what made them this way. But what people really have to understand, is that they are not human" The others agreed. It is hard to wrap our minds around these freepers. I believe many of them are not human and never have been.

[Stephanie]

30. "But what people really have to understand, is that they are not human"

I've never seen anything like it. I guess at least now we really know what we're up against.

[eridani]

102. They're human, but with a big piece missing

To wit, that part of the brain that processes the information "What would I think if someone did that to me?"

[sellitman]

29. That blog may become a superfund site if you keep it up.

That's a Frepers half life.

[EFerrari]

31. You're not the only one, Will

Several of us who love and support Andy are being "stalked" by geniuses.

One of mine says he's spent two entire weeks digging up dirt on me and knows me better than my husband does.

Which means he took the information I made public on purpose and then, he googled me. Why not just email? My addy has been plastered all over the net. He must have one SLOW connection. :eyes:

(And, btw, Anne Frank was right. Because out of countless emails, only three individuals turned out to be one of these geniuses.)

Not sure what the answer is, but I'm not changing course anytime soon.

[WilliamPitt]

32. I have all their ISP numbers

if that may prove to be helpful at some point.

[EFerrari]

36. It may well at some point.

Take good care of yourself.

B.

[chalky]

90. And if you tacked on a nice little disclaimer

stating that those ISP numbers are available to you I wonder how soon it would take the scum to stop with their drive-by postings? Because, along with being sociopaths, all these pigs share another trait--they're GUTLESS BASTARDS.
They'd all piss down their legs if they realized that the venom they spewed could be traced back to them.

[goodboy]

38. It's sick. (nt)

[VelmaD]

39. I couldn't stop myself from reading...

though now I wish I hadn't. I feel like I need a shower...or two....then to be hosed down with disinfectant. Some people are well and truly fucked up. *sigh*

[lonestarnot]

41. Well do you want us to do anything?

[WilliamPitt]

44. Post a get-well message for Andy

if you get the chance.

[lonestarnot]

51. Roger that Wilco ...Over and done!

[Nothing Without Hope]

74. Will do! he's certainly rolliing in them here at DU! We'll spread the

wealth a bit.

[MelissaB]

42. I don't understand the reason you don't delete this shit.

:shrug:

I had to stop reading.

[WilliamPitt]

43. I deleted the posts in the other threads

because they were off-topic.

It does serve a purpose. It creates a billboard for why we have to win. Right now, the sentiments in that post are the ruling mindset of this country. People need to see it for what it truly is.

[tsuki]

129. I wonder if the NYT would print some of those responses. Never

mind, the NYT only disses DU.

[Old and In the Way]

47. I obviously don't have anything in common with their politics, but

I cannot fathom how anyone could be party to that sophomoric action. If they were fundraising for one of their own, I would at least respect them for that. I probably wouldn't be much motivated to help, but I certainly wouldn't be pulling that juvenile shit. But maybe that's the point...maybe, what we are seeing here are a bunch of 14 YO's doing what they do best, being incredibly juvenile. If they are adults, they certainly have emotional issues that they need help with.

Pretty pathetic....but precisely the level of behaviour that I've come to expect from the posting community at FR. I guess when your party's politicians and politics have lost their collective moral compass, why should we be surprised that the rank-and-file are unable to find their way along the path of common decency?

I'm glad you left it up. You should also link to that thread at FR. People should see what passes as conservative thought and conversation today. It's no wonder this country is in the mess it is today. Yeah, "the adults" are in charge, alright.

I'd rather lose every election between now and when hell freezes over, then ever associate myself with the 'winners' who inhabit that echo chamber.

[Horse with no Name]

48. I've posted on your blog before

but this time it won't let me.
However, it is vile.
But what goes round, comes round--usually at twice the speed and enough to knock ya on your ass,lol.
Nice post though Will--as usual.

[Taxloss]

49. Will, much as I admire your civilised efforts,

why do you try to argue with these morons? Delete their comments and block their ISPs, which are probably the only dynamic thing about them.

"Shush junior - grown-ups talking" is the only language they understand.

[paineinthearse]

50. Sounds like you could use some volunteer moderators

a la DU.

[troubleinwinter]

52. I am not understanding

what the point is of providing space for these hateful jealous morAns to smear their own shit on the walls? They have their boards where they can pretend to one another that they are "smart" (while ignoring all facts and information presented to them).

I am stumped as to the point of giving them air space.

Pffftttt.

[sniffa]

54. and Let's cLear history books of nazi crimes

that's why he's Leaving them up.

[Stephanie]

56. I think it's important - I'm glad Will left it up

THIS is who's been attacking Andy, attacking us for helping Andy, attacking Dan Rather, attacking Hillary Clinton, attacking John Kerry, attacking Newsweek. Let's see them for what they are - hardly human. It's a fight to the death and they've proven it. Bring them out into the sunlight - they can't survive.

[ultraist]

62. I was wondering the same thing

Why provide a platform for them to keep the rumors and gossip going?

[Maclilly]

53. Why is pitt even

keeping these disgusting posts up? He should just delte them and not respond. These people didn't donate a dime. They are just jealous that no one would do this for them cause their lives are worthless scum. I hate these freepers. They are truly disgustig people

[Old and In the Way]

58. Because there is no better reflection of who they are than in the

writing of their own words.

If I were Will I'd complete the cycle and link back to the FR thread where they are slapping themselves on the back for such a great group effort they are doing with this.

It's obvious that they hatred is so evident, one has to wonder if it's a clinical mental sickness. Or maybe they are just a bunch of 14 YO's who just got connected to the Internet.

[Stephanie]

61. here's the FR thread >

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1410544/posts?q=1&&page=764#764

[EFerrari]

79. Wow. How do they learn to type without learning to read?!

:shrug:

[Occulus]

112. pulled

Did anyone archive it before it got censored out by those bastions of freedom over there?

Frightened. Little. Boys.

All of them.

[Dee625]

126. The irony

This is the first time I've ever really read anything over there. They've been going on and on about the cencorship over here (lock, delete, ban) and their WHOLE thread got deleted.

:rofl:

[Stephanie]

132. They didn't pull the rest of them >

There are more. Also, "andystephenson" and "willpitt" are searchable keywords at FR. (I'm learning more than I want to know about that place.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=andystephenson

[Stephanie]

133. The chief instigator has helpfully saved the pulled thread at his blog >

http://dummiefunnies.blogspot.com/

[SheepyMcSheepster]

138. wow, a page dedicated to attempted ridicule of DU..........

i really can't believe these people are so serious about their harassment.
these people really have some legitimate and severe psychological disorder.
the phrase "get a life" springs to mind.
wow.

[MissB]

55. The inhumanity is astounding

I always wondered who the people were that believe Clinton killed a bunch of people. It seems they are all gathered in one spot- your PDA blog. How fascinating. It is amazing how much energy they expend in hating.

I assume that once I've registered at PDA, I'll get a password or something so I can go leave a positive message for Andy.

[WilliamPitt]

60. You assume correctly

[Coexist]

59. sick people

[blue neen]

64. Oh, but they're the "compassionate conservatives!"

You know, the "pro-life" party...the party of "family values"...the "patriots" of America.

:sarcasm:

A true patriot is someone who is working for Verified Paper Ballots to ensure that we remain a democracy. He manages to do his important work while he is fighting cancer. GO ANDY!


Some people have cancer of their body organs. That is curable.

Some people have cancer of the soul. That is what the graveyard rats have, and that is despicable.

[mzmolly]

66. The "Family Values" brigade has arrived. They take after their master.

[oasis]

67. It's no surprise to me that Freeps would rather talk about anything but

the state of the union.

Their Chimperor is toast so they're embarrassed to brag about him at work anymore. Tom DeLay, Fox News and Bill O'Reilly are in a free fall.

They had a great ride these past 4 years. The bill is due.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

70. That was a truly vile experience

I thought I knew what to expect but I was wrong.

I honestly think some of those posters are psychotic. At least I hope so, it easier to blame a psychosis than to think they find that entertaining.

I couldn't finish but I think I understand why you wanted to preserve that display (no matter how disgusting) for posterity.

All that hate and jealousy brought out over a sick man receiving the help he needs. They need professional help.

[AuntiBush]

71. Graveyard RATS, is right!

Just a bump in the road.

[Nothing Without Hope]

72. These people are "spiritual" cousins to the ones that burned the crosses

in North Carolina. I put "spiritual" in quotes, because it's hard for me (in my far-from-Buddha-nature condition) to imagine them as spiritual beings--far moreso than it is for violent animals, which are part of nature. Here is a thread on the NC cross burnings. In other Westboro protests,

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3733105
Thread title: “Fred Phelps comes to my town. He spurs crossburnings against CHURCHES.”

Here's part of the news report from that thread:

http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/05/052605kkk.htm
(snip)
"The first (cross)burning was reported at 9:19 p.m. outside St. Luke's Episcopal Church near Interstate 85.

A second was reported at 9:54 p.m. about a quarter-mile south of Martin Luther King Jr. Parkway. The cross was positioned atop a large pile of dirt near an apartment complex construction site. (edit: This is near an AIDS group home.)

The third was reported at 10:28 p.m. at a downtown intersection. (edit: This is near another Episcopal Church in town.)

St. Luke's was one of several churches picketed early this month by members of Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan., as part of a protest against the performance of "The Laramie Project" at Durham School of the Arts.

The play is about the murder of Matthew Shepard, and the Westboro protesters carried anti-gay signs with slogans including "God Hates Fags" and "Thank God for 9/11."
(snip)

There are always insane people who will do unspeakable things if they get the chance. Under this government and its encouragement of the siege by the Fristians, this slime feels empowered and - always anonymously or under the cover of darkness - spreads its poison and violence.

Yes, showing what they do for all to see is a good idea. You don't respond to them directly - you reveal them for what they are.

And collect and trace those IP addresses!!!

[Stephanie]

75. OH WOW! - >slogans including "God Hates Fags" and "Thank God for 9/11"

I'm speechless. I give up.

[Nothing Without Hope]

96. No, don't give up. Exposure of this horror will help to turn the nation

away from the thrall of the Fristian extremists. Polls already show great uneasiness about the power of the crazy RW fundie friinge in this administration, and many top people are obviously beholden to them.

We need to expose them for what they are. This will NOT be a theocracy, no matter what those hate-filled crazies believe. Use this as a clarifier and motive force.

DON'T GIVE UP.
:rant:

[Kelvin Mace]

77. Can you set the software

to allow you to moderate the posts, ie. they don't go up until approved and you simply delete the Freeper crowd.

[Just Me]

78. I wanna know who posed as "Just Me" so's I can,...

,...kick what's left between his legs up to his pansy-appled throat!!!

If someone signs up as "Just Me", I'd appreciate a PM, Will, to confirm.

[Goldmund]

87. LOL

You're probably not the only "Just Me" on the internets. :)

[Melynn]

80. You're doing the right thing Will

Let the Freepers and the Creepers show the world how hateful they are. Bashing a sick man for political reasons. And they have the gall to say they are pro-life. How vile and disgusting.

I imagine the hatefest is going to get worst because the Bush administration is going down in flames. The Freepers and Creepers have to take their frustrations out on someone.....like a cancer victim who is too weak to fight back. Cowards.

[Goldmund]

81. Some of them are indeed graveyard rats.

Some of them aren't.

[mogster]

120. And who might the 'aren'ts'' be?

:-)

[Stephanie]

137. you won't get an answer to that one

[Zorra]

83. Those people emanate a truly horrible energy. Graveyard rats is a

good term for them.

If they had lived in Nazi Germany, I think that they would have been the guards in the concentration camps that gassed innocent people.

And really loved their job.

What sad little creatures.

[Radical Activist]

84. Why was that dragged into PDA?

[yvr girl]

89. They hunt Andy down like a dog

I can't imagine being so filled with hate. I don't know how they sleep at night.

[WilliamPitt]

116. Good fucking question

I checked into the blog this afternoon, and discovered that 'they' had spammed the whole board with claims that the cancer claim was a fraud, etc. They hit every post 4 or 5 times. Finally pissed me off, so I put this up so they could focus on one thread instead of poisoning the whole blog.

I had no idea it would be this vile. This, you see, is desperation. The ones who pushed the 'Andy scam' thing are now at loose threads. Rather than fade quietly, they decided to erupt.

Fine with me. I have their ISPs and their words. They are a billboard for why we have to win.

[EFerrari]

119. Maybe, for how we have won.

Can you imagine being that crew and watching DU rally the way we did? Water on witches.

[johnaries]

85. Good freakin' God! THIS is the "Moral Values" group?!?!?

In that case, I'm proud to proclaim that I do not have either morals or values.

I do care about my fellow human beings - but that's obviously immoral.

[jbnow]

91. Aside from it being Andy

I wonder if many of them have the belief of the person who wrote about passing the hat for himself and said (won’t happen, because some of us work for a living)

In their dream world all jobs offer health insurance and no one looses their jobs?
About 80% of the uninsured adults are employed. In this new world fewer employers offer insurance or have the copay so high that many can no longer afford it. They are more apt to offer it only to full time employees and keep most employees "part time" by a few hours. Unemployment doesn't leave enough to pay for Cobra.

Maybe they can be so cold about these things because they really think it is the lazy.

Yep, those people without real jobs have always been bums. Like Jesus, dude didn't hold down a real job.

[hiley]

93. Will Pitt

be sure and look at post 82, I have something for you.
hiley
:)

[GirlinContempt]

104. That is disgusting

ugh

[Fovea]

105. I feel their pain, don't you, Will?

Surely corporate products as miraculous as Vi-ag-ra and Ci-al1s would cure a tiny dick as well as impotence.

Of course, if it did cure miniscule penile syndrome then they willies would not fit in they tiny little fists.

So I guess this proves that the Gods are wise, as well as just and subtle.

[FizzFuzz]

143. and I just saw some news linking Viagra with Blindness!

Talk about Poetic Justice.

ahem.

[saracat]

107. I may be naive but what does anyone get out of this?

Why are people who are uninvolved concerned about Andy's donations? Even if this was a "scam", which I don't believe it is, what business is it of theirs? And who are they to demand answers?
Are they really just trying to make DU look bad, and if so, isn't this a lot of effort for nothing? This effort to discredit DU and Andy has just as much a chance of boomeranging back on them and making them look despicable

[EFerrari]

111. Too late.

:rofl:

on edit: Sorry, my unbelievable gasket has been blown. Isn't this what they mean by "so completely divorced from reality"?

[tavalon]

148. Yes it is

BTW, I wrote a small note directed to you on the last posting that Will did updating what he knew about Andy's condition. Unfortunately, all of the posts were deleted. This is a paraphrase:

I wanted you to know that while this fundraising thing didn't go perfectly (when do they ever?), you are an amazing and wonderful person to have spearheaded this whole thing. This was such a human and yet amazing thing you did. Don't let the turkeys get you down.

[FizzFuzz]

108. whew. wow. Sociopaths. I will never understand

the absence of empathy, and the phenomenon of projection. I'm serious, I just don't get it, how they can wall off their entire ugly reality and tell themselves its EVERYONE ELSE doing what they are guilty of?

I know a guy who is an internet predator--I work with him, he's a con artist predator, and online, he is an ugly smarmy manipulative obscenity pusher who is turned on by cruelty and clearly disturbed--and he creams his jeans for smirk. Just another interesting proof, bush's base is the Psychopath demographic.

Leave the swill up, these disgusting people don't deserve to have their mess conveniently cleaned up and forgotten.

[catzies]

135. "Bush's base is the Psychopath demographic!"

So true and so nice, I'm saying it twice:

"Bush's base is the Psychopath demographic!"

[FizzFuzz]

139. every now and then I come up with a good one!

:D

:hi:

You have permission to use that, for free, even; just make sure to tell evvveryone how brilliant and clever I am, 'k?

LOL!

[EnfantTerrible]

109. I joined. I donated.

I can't, however, sign in and blast the ghouls!!!! What's up with that? Are they going to email me a password or something? FRUSTRATION!!!!

[FizzFuzz]

141. honest, the best thing is to NOT RESPOND to them

Uppityperson said it, downthread, and in my experience with the predator-sociopath I mentioned above, it is the absolute truth: They FEED OFF the attention. Doesn't matter if you blast them with your very best ammunition, doesn't matter if its incontrovertable fact, they merely use it to fuel their hate. Its the ATTENTION they crave. Believe me, I was targeted by that predator I mention and did some extensive study on the matter of ghouls like this.

I know its frustrating as hell!! Been there, done that!

But leave the ugliness up for any normal people to see and judge. Its not hard to see the truth of the matter. What they really hate is to have their lies and filth exposed. I hope to see WillPitt and anyone else in a position to, to use this crap as evidence.

[Historic NY]

110. Unbelieveable slime.......

they are so worried that DU was scammed.....amazing cause only 3 a--holes caused the problem in the first place. I would be more worried if I were them about being scammed by their hero * , who can't like them manage to put 6 words together.

Will I'd suggest that you publish the IP's or in the future have them logged with the message.

[uppityperson]

113. Ignore them Will

They aren't worth responding to. Open respectful discussion with people of differing opinions is worth it. Responding to the hateful bs just feeds them. Thank you for all your words and thoughts and work. really appreciate you.

[rumpel]

115. I have now read some of it, it is not worth anyone's time

to read any of their rat poison.
To all of them, I have a message: don't worry about people voluntarily giving money to a fellow in need.
You may want to check into your own tax dollars, part of the 8.8 Billion worth going missing in Iraq. For crying out loud, even you or your immediate family may have benefited from the funds if those were spent in your own community.

[fleabert]

117. at the core of all of this for me is this:

I gave a dollar to a homeless person yesterday. I don't care how he spent it, once I made the decison that I could live without it, I did.

I would rather give, and hope it went towards something good, than not give, and the man starve.

That said, I believe Andy. I believe you.

and I abhor freepers.

Should there be transparency, sure, but we all knew what we were getting into from the beginning. It was all about trust, period. This was a rush job for one reason, it was an emergency. anyone who feels duped shouldn't have given in the first place, imo. I am happy I did.

[EFerrari]

118. I don't think we should call these people "freepers" any more.

We should call them "reapers" because they have nothing to do with life, let alone the faith or trust that makes it possible.

Thank you for your help, fleabert.

B.

[fleabert]

122. you are right, and you are welcome.

again, I was happy to do it. It can only come back to me in spades.

Reapers is so spot on.

[FizzFuzz]

142. so well said, fleabert

:)

I felt the same way about it--its true, you give because you feel it from your heart. Period.

and, hug Flea for me? I'll hug TeenyBeanyWeenie for you. :hi:

[fleabert]

153. you got it, and give pugsley a hug too,

unless he just farted.

[tavalon]

149. Yep, that's exactly how I am

when I give away money, I give it freely and with hope and caring. Then I forget about it.

I wonder what's wrong with these people? What sad, awful creatures they are.

[mogster]

121. I need a shower after reading these comments

But it is interesting to see how they work in clusters, and the reasoning used.
It is kind of a micro-cosmos of the neocon/repub movement; how they work to create doubt and how low they allow themselves to sink.

Someone should write a book about this.

[EFerrari]

123. Tolkien wrote three

[mogster]

124. Now, THAT's some url, lol!

:rofl: Must be the longest url I've seen yet ;-)

Yeah, Tolkien DID write about it, didn't he?

On edit: Umh, now I see picture......precioussss picture :-)

[EFerrari]

125. I think it grew in translation! Try it again. lol

[In_The_Wind]

127. sorry about that

~ best wishes for Andy ~

I'm sending gingerbread stars and (((((((((:hug:))))))))) his way

[im10ashus]

128. I can't bring myself to look.

I know what these people are capable of. I trust you are at least getting their IP addresses? For future reference?

[movie_girl99]

130. Jesus H they spew the most vile shit

i feel so dirty after reading that crap. I will never figure out how these people claim to hold such values and morals.

[tavalon]

150. And, it has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus

What we did here for Andy, now that has plenty to do with Jesus or at least his fine teachings.

BTW, in the spirit of full disclosure, I'm actually a pagan, but since we have many Gods, I let Jesus into my pantheon. Yahweh, I don't because he doesn't know how to play well with others. Much like these graveyard rats.

[Evergreen Emerald]

131. To spend their time reviewing our posts just to ridicule

Is so disturbing to me. The energy it takes for them to hate so profoundly--as evidenced by the anger of their posts--is stunning.

They have created a whole web-site dedicated to the promotion of hate and ridicule. What is their fuel? Anger? Psychosis? Fear? Stupidity?

I read the responses on Will's website and they made me a little sick. And sad--for them and for America. Because these hate filled, closed minded people are the ones currently running our country. They have bought into the neo-con agenda and indeed promote it without realizing that the agenda they scream from the top of their pick-up trucks is screwing them and their families.

They tout christianity while acting in the most unchristian like way. They denounce "liberal" without knowing what liberal is. (another example of spewing in lemming-like fashion the neo-con agenda without knowing what it means. If Rush says liberals are bad, then they will hate them). There lack of understanding and unwillingness to think past what they are told is terrifying.

What sorry people they are. These are bullies who alone sound like nuts, but who together reinforce a culture of hatred and anger and isolation that is dangerous to America. They are sick pathetic people who need to crawl back under the rocks from whence they came and shut the fuck up.


Edited for spelling.

[PATRICK]

146. This is not a criticism but

Will has shown himself to be honestly and emotionally vulnerable to the BS. Everyone is to some degree. These people are equal opportunity disrupters wherever there is an Internet forum but to be graced by a gang visit is a compliment of their concern more than anything they have to say - which is practically nil. I am nearly positive, in spite of their sticking to a party line propaganda language, that some are VERY busy camping out in pairs at forums all over wherever there is little weeding being done. But it almost makes no difference since the attack is always the same, the facts spewed and the argumentation and the insults and whining- not to mention the shouting of the lousy spellers. When you are "up there" trying to make your points you are always ripe for sandbagging by people cleverly looking for a disruptive opening. Being a teacher helps, but with no classroom presence to deal with I'd merely red-ink their efforts and send them packing.

In the end, since the cowards disguise most of their real motivation, they must be treated like any over the top kid shouting and flaming in the chat room. Children trying to get attention by being abusive cannot obviously be granted what they wish and are the most difficult to deal with- especially hard in an anonymous invisible medium.

Playing fast and loose with both facts and emotions is a technique- not a reasoned position. I much prefer the moderation at DU which does not pretend to be ironclad or perfect so that no false sense of consensus and security makes us lazy or smug. At the same time we are pretty much in control of the situation in so far as we really earn it.

I have not followed other bloggers much to understand how they singlehandedly deal with the dumploads of garbage they must receive daily. Probably should get together and share notes sometimes. Imagine how journalists feel about getting this stuff versus calmer intellectually sound critiques(which can be dismissed airily) when they are not aired in public as with open blogging. Death threats sometimes are not as emotionally troubling though they come from the same crowd.

It is very bad for the stomach to wander into a conversation with these
types- and they know it. That is there sole rational power in the argument. That plus the difficulty in playing by their "rules" without fast fact checking and support.

[Cash]

134. I think some are just trying to get a reaction from us.

I read various sites and blogs and I'm fully convinced there are some RWers out there who just say things to get a reaction just for kicks. At first glance I didn't notice, but the more I read some of the responses I get the impression that's a lot of what's going on. Like I said on a similar thread, this site is nothing but a freak show for them.

[Norquist Nemesis]

136. They can't help themselves, Will

Truly a manifestation of mental disease. What they are attempting to do and their words are nothing short of disgusting. They need help and are crying out for it.

They really should embrace the ideology of personal responsibility and get the professional psychological help they need to become sane.

[redqueen]

140. Thanks for leaving those comments up, Will!

Nice to see their psycho comments. Wish some 'liberal media' paper would publish them, or any of that crazy freeper stuff... but no, apparently the 'liberal media' only cherrypicks lunacy from left wing boards to excoriate.

Funny, that.

[Love Bug]

145. They are like cockroaches that come out at night

once the light is upon them they run and hide like the vermin they are.

[orleans]

151. ah...rats!

[Proud2BAmurkin]

152. The putrid stench of the filthy, seedy, flotsam known as "Freeper"

you know they post their filth with raging hard ons