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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:47 PM
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Police brutality "Unfreakingbelievable"
Halliburton protesters, get trampled.


http://houston.indymedia.org/news/2005/05/39714.php
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:49 PM
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1. Those police officers need to be punished
I'm talking about being kicked off the force and thrown in prison, for 10 to 20 years, no parole.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 12:50 AM
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8. I think this is becoming common place.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:20 AM
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16. Then maybe it's time to boot off a whole lot more officers
These guys should be protecting citizens, not leaving their boot-prints on the faces of them.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:50 PM
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2. Here we go.
The '68 police riot in Chicago.
Kent State.
Etc.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:51 PM
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3. Bushies want to know why it took so long to clear the roads.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:54 PM
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4. blinded horses?
good god. AMERIKA
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 12:05 AM
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5. Brutality? If you think that's brutality, will you...
ever shit your pants when you see the real thing.

Overzealous, yes.

Cops as tools to stifle dissent, yes.

Bullshit arrests because someone gave the finger to a cop, or otherwise pissed him off, yes.

But brutality? Not at all. This was kindergarten compared to what could happen.





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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 12:50 AM
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7. Agreed. And frankly, I have no sympathy for anyone
with a black bandana on their faces complaining of police brutality.

That was playtime, kiddies.

And for anyone who thinks there aren't some assholes on the Rove payroll trying to instigate violence at protests of this kind, you are naive beyond belief.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 01:03 AM
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10. FBI Instigators go back at least to...
Viet Nam and Civil Rights protests in the 60s.

Agents provocateurs were known back in the days of the labor riots, but the government was smaller then, so the bosses hired Pinkertons for the job. Now they get it done for free for the taxes they don't pay.

I wouldn't go so far as to say I have no sympathy for the black bandana crowd, but they're most likely either agents of destruction themselves or just clueless kiddies. There's a group of anarchists around that likes the bandanas, but I don't know if any of those were at this shindig.









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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 01:11 AM
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11. There was one in the video, and you're probably right, mostly clueless
kiddies who can afford to act like assholes because mommy and daddy will bail them out if they get arrested.

Have seen the anarchists in action, and they frequently upstage a meaningful demonstration, drawing all of the press attention to their breakaway actions, including violence and destruction of property.

The black bandana is symbolic of the black bloc protest technique, which is designed to bait the cops into crowd control maneuvers, often resulting in injury to other protesters who happen to be in wrong place at the wrong time. I've gotten weary of them, and know that they are infiltrated by agents provocateurs.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 01:43 AM
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12. SCOTUS has decided
That Giving a police officer or even the President of the United States the finger is protected political speech. I'm paraphrasing the Decission. But the intent is still the same. Sue them for false arrest, false imprisionment, and malicious prosecution. They have a duty to know this. This decission is from a case involving a Maryland State Police Officer. We don't take crap from them either! :kick:

So Texas don't say Maryland has never given you anything.:patriot:
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 01:52 AM
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13. How long until we get the "real thing"?
How much trampling and tazering and false arresting does it take to make a "real thing"?

Or do the cops have to go for the machetes and machine guns to qualify as brutality?

At what point do we stop holding cops to the standards expected in a democracy and admit that we're a dictatorship?
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:16 AM
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15. A lot...
did you see the firehoses and dogs that were set on the civil rights marchers? The murders, lynchings and beatings out back where no one was looking?

The real trampling of the Bonus Soldiers?

The shootings at Haymarket Square and the coal mines?

Or, how about Warsaw under both the Nazis and the Communists? Prague? Tianamen? El Salvador? Chiapas? Columbia? Cambodia? Damn near anywhere in the Middle East or Africa?

Everyone should have heard of Rachel Corrie by now, but there are many more teams in the Occupied Territories and heading for Darfur and Afghanistan who have seen, or will soon see, "the real thing."

You're right if you are thinking that every instance of police abuse of power should be fought so that it doesn't get any worse. Cops should be accountable when they are wrong, and ours seem to be held to lower standards than Europe or Japan.

But, while complaining about them, never forget how bad it really could be. Or how bad it once was. Or could be.









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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 12:09 AM
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6. That looks so much like a Vietnam protest it's depressing
This country has learned nothing in the last 50 years. Nothing.
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ConfuZed Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 01:01 AM
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9. Hey Hey Hey Support the police
As you know cops have a heart of gold,guns that love not kill and tear gas of rainbows, don't forget what liberalnurse says "If you commit the crime...you assume the risk."

:sarcasm:
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 01:54 AM
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14. I was there last year and did not attend this year.
The difference in last year and this (just from the pics and vids I've seen) is nothing short of just plain damned frightening and maddening. I wish I'd been there and then again I'm kinda glad I wasn't. I probably would have wound up being arrested.

What the HPD did with their horse corps was way out of line IMVHO.

I had many friends and acquaintances there and I'm angry for what happened to them all.
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 03:19 AM
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17. I was there, and I still can't believe what happened.
The cops went from peaceful to violent in seconds, totally out of control.

The horses were abused, it had to upset the horses to run over people. Many of the cops couldn't control their horses, I think the horses where trying to get away.

Thinking back now a week later, whoever was in charge, lost control over the officers. This really make the cops look bad, no self control, just hit someone.

If you would have been there you would have done fine, we all did.

I am proud of everyone who was there, we keep our cool when the officers we going crazy.

It was so unreal, looking at the videos I still can't believe I was there, believe me as bad as the videos and pictures looked it was much worse in person.

I wonder if the cops would have attacked us if we would have had the same big crowd as last year.

I have not yet downloaded my video, I will this Saturday at the Indy Media Center. My video camera decided to break, so I can't play back my tape, I think I got some good stuff. Saturday can't come to soon for me.

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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 03:14 PM
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18. texanwitch, I'm am quite certain it was far worse in person. I have no,
absolutely no doubt! The horses can be quite intimidating! I rounded a corner in downtown Dallas at the conclusion of or during a protest here in Dallas and ran straight into the nose's of a couple. Scared me damned near to death as well as the horses! It made me angry as well. $#$%@, police state assholes! (I didn't write that, one of my other personalities did, plausible deniability, just ask my husband).

By the way, welcome to DU, how did you find us?
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