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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:22 PM
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Did Santorum say that homosexuality is like bestiality
im looking for a quote and link to this.. tia :)
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:25 PM
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1. He should know
He's a Republican, isn't he, and those Republicans keep being the very thing they are railing against.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:25 PM
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2. I think he made some connection between allowing
gay marriage and allowing a man to marry a turtle (hey, if that is your thing, no skin off my back).

Interesting though, because some right-wing whackjob named Horsley recently admitted to Alan Colmes that he, and he claims, most rural people, had sexual relations with a mule and that city folks were totally out of touch if they didn't know that.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:26 PM
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3. santorum
Straight from the Horses mouth
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:29 PM
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4. Here...
SANTORUM: We have laws in states, like the one at the Supreme Court right now, that has sodomy laws and they were there for a purpose. Because, again, I would argue, they undermine the basic tenets of our society and the family. And if the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does. It all comes from, I would argue, this right to privacy that doesn't exist in my opinion in the United States Constitution, this right that was created, it was created in Griswold — Griswold was the contraceptive case — and abortion. And now we're just extending it out. And the further you extend it out, the more you — this freedom actually intervenes and affects the family. You say, well, it's my individual freedom. Yes, but it destroys the basic unit of our society because it condones behavior that's antithetical to strong healthy families. Whether it's polygamy, whether it's adultery, where it's sodomy, all of those things, are antithetical to a healthy, stable, traditional family.

Every society in the history of man has upheld the institution of marriage as a bond between a man and a woman. Why? Because society is based on one thing: that society is based on the future of the society. And that's what? Children. Monogamous relationships. In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing. And when you destroy that you have a dramatic impact on the quality —

AP: I'm sorry, I didn't think I was going to talk about "man on dog" with a United States senator, it's sort of freaking me out.

SANTORUM: And that's sort of where we are in today's world, unfortunately. The idea is that the state doesn't have rights to limit individuals' wants and passions. I disagree with that. I think we absolutely have rights because there are consequences to letting people live out whatever wants or passions they desire. And we're seeing it in our society.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-04-23-santorum-excerpt_x.htm
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:29 PM
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5. Maybe the argument should be:
Edited on Fri May-20-05 05:30 PM by Kurovski
if so many of your followers think nothing of Bestiality, why do they have such a problem with homosexuality?

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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:32 PM
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6. From AP interview:
SANTORUM: "…Every society in the history of man has upheld the institution of marriage as a bond between a man and a woman. Why? Because society is based on one thing: that society is based on the future of the society. And that's what? Children. Monogamous relationships. In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing. And when you destroy that you have a dramatic impact on the quality —

AP: I'm sorry, I didn't think I was going to talk about "man on dog" with a United States senator, it's sort of freaking me out.

SANTORUM: And that's sort of where we are in today's world, unfortunately. The idea is that the state doesn't have rights to limit individuals' wants and passions. I disagree with that. I think we absolutely have rights because there are consequences to letting people live out whatever wants or passions they desire. And we're seeing it in our society.

more…
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2003/04/22/national1737EDT0668.DTL
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TheGunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 03:11 AM
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20. That's because his knowledge is trapped in a teeny-tiny box.
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:34 PM
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7. I dunno but
these commies here at DU do seem to like their cats a little TOO much ifyaknowwhuddimean...
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 07:06 PM
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11. Oh, you better not post that in any of the kitty forums...
less'n you wants to be flaammmed!

hehehe.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:39 PM
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8. Homonsexuality is distasteful to him...
Edited on Fri May-20-05 05:39 PM by Cooley Hurd
...however, bringing a dead fetus home and showing it to your small children's a-ok.:puke:

He's MIGHTY fucked up, that Santorum feller...:crazy:
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:44 PM
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9. Remember this gem: Gay marriage will lead to more out of wedlocks births
I thought I was losing my mind when I first heard that idiot say something so outrageous. Jon Stewart explained in detail on the Daily Show that apparently gay men have amazing sperm that can travel through the air to unsuspecting women and impregnate them. Hell, it made more sense than santorum!

Finally, several months later, a gay couple explained to me that what snatorum was referring to was invitrol fertilization... but IF the couple were MARRIED, how would it be out of wedlock births? Humm....

Methinks santorum is just a plain old Commander Cuckoobanannas Christo-fascist Zombie-Brigade follower...




Here is an X-ray of a plain old Commander Cuckoobanannas Christo-fascist Zombie-Brigade follower's brain...

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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:49 PM
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10. Here we go - sex for procreation only.
We all know that some fundies think sex is only for procreation and it's a sin to enjoy it. Here's Santorum's verson:
"..society is based on one thing: that society is based on the future of the society. And that's what? Children."
Here's the "justification" to outlaw all birth control. :scared:
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Lannes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 07:09 PM
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12. He obsesses so much about gays I wouldnt be surprised if
We find pictures of him in some bath house somewhere with a big smile on his face..
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:03 PM
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13. Yes, that sentence is begging to be completed.
Must...resist...the...obvious...cheap shot. AARRRGGHHHH!
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:10 PM
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14. This quote really pisses me off
"Every society in the history of man has upheld the institution of marriage as a bond between a man and a woman."

Oh really????? Ever read your bible you facist? Jews certainly practiced polygamy, and in fact it was only done away with in 1000a.d. or so to not piss off the chistians.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:34 PM
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15. I wrote my column about this at the time....
It's here if anyone wants to take a look and Ricky's subsequent weaseling defense of the remark:

http://www.cumberlink.com/articles/2003/04/24/editorial/rich_lewis/lewis01.txt
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:45 PM
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17. I particularly like this part:
"Santorum said that if the Supreme Court rules that homosexuals have a right to "consensual sex" within their own homes, "then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything."

This is like saying that since the 2nd Amendment gives you the right to own a handgun, you also have the right to own a nuclear bomb."
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 09:45 PM
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16. Santorum's wife
is oviously guilty of bestiality.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:02 PM
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18. The way I read it, Santorum is saying that homosexuality is

NOT like bestiality or pedophilia. I would even infer that he meant "Homosexuality is not as bad as bestiality or pedophilia."

He talks about marriage being between a man and woman, etc., and then he says:

"That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be."

Next he says "It is one thing" and it's not clear to me if he means homosexuality is one thing, in the sense that he knows homosexuality is one thing and bestiality another, referring back to the previous sentence, OR if he's referring to marriage again, in the sense that he's just talking about one thing: marriage. That would lead into the next sentence. "And when you destroy that you have a dramatic impact on the quality —" etc.

In any case, he did not say homosexuality was like bestiality.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:17 PM
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19. Kind Of...


:hi:
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