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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 10:52 PM
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Michelle Malkin: Abu Ghraib abuse was overhyped by media
Edited on Wed May-18-05 10:57 PM by Bluebear
Michelle adds her two cents about the media reporting anything that might be construed as criticizing the US. The abuses weren't that bad, it was just that they were reported. Weapons weren't stolen from Al Qaqaa, after all the story disappeared so it couldn't be true.




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If you want to hear an earful, ask an American soldier how he feels about our news media. You will invariably hear an outpouring of dismay and outrage over antagonistic and reckless reporting. I have stacks of letters and e-mails from soldiers and their families sharing those frustrations. During the Vietnam War, those sentiments would get packed away -- private hurts to be silently borne for decades....

Military bloggers across the Web this week echoed the sergeant's disgust with American journalism. And it's not just Newsweek.

It's the New York Times and CBS News and the overkill over abuses at Abu Ghraib prison. It's the Boston Globe publishing porn photos passed off by an anti-war city councilor as proof that American GIs were raping Iraqi women.....

It's the hyping of stories like the military's purported failure to stop looting of explosives at al Qa Qaa right before the 2004 presidential election -- stories that have since dropped off the face of the earth....

http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/mmalkin/2005/mm_05181.shtml
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 10:54 PM
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1. TORTURING CHILDREN IN FRONT OF THEIR MOTHERS!!!
was NEVER EVEN MENTIONED :argh:

peace
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 10:55 PM
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2. She's right!!! I wanted more coverage of Nick Berg,the other men who
were beheaded,and poor Margaret Hassan.


They weren't humiliated,they were slaughtered.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 10:58 PM
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5. You think the beheadings weren't covered enough?
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:11 PM
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12. Not in the MSM----they received 1/10 of the coverage,if that.
The Abu Ghraib incident,as sickening as it was,is still being talked about. The dead folks and their sick killers are barely mentioned.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:15 PM
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13. the CHILDREN RAPED and TORTURED in front of their MOTHERS got 0 news
what are you talking about? berg received lots of coverage as well as the others, we KNOW THEIR NAMES and FACES we know SQUAT about those RAPED and TORTURED in abu gahrib and it is being covered up to this very DAY.

hello...

peace
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:19 PM
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15. Children were raped and tortured at Abu Ghraib?
Edited on Wed May-18-05 11:20 PM by candy
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:22 PM
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16. Yes they were.
A German TV magazine called Report Mainz recently aired accusations from the International Red Cross, to the effect that over 100 children are imprisoned in U.S.-controlled detention centers, including Abu Ghraib. “Between January and May of this year, we’ve registered 107 children, during 19 visits in 6 different detention locations,” said Red Cross representative Florian Westphal in the report.

The report also outlined eyewitness testimony of the abuse of these children. Staff Sergeant Samuel Provance, who was stationed at Abu Ghraib, said that interrogating officers had gotten their hands on a 15- or 16-year-old girl. Military police only stopped the interrogation when the girl was half undressed. A separate incident described a 16-year-old being soaked with water, driven through the cold, smeared with mud, and then presented before his weeping father, who was also a prisoner.

Seymour Hersh, the New Yorker reporter who first broke the story of torture at Abu Ghraib, recently spoke at an ACLU convention. He has seen the pictures and the videotapes the American media has not yet shown. “The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling, and the worst part is the soundtrack, of the boys shrieking,” said Hersh. “And this is your government at war.”

http://www.pww.org/article/articleview/5540/1/144
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 11:54 AM
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25. Frankly,I don't believe it.
If the videos are out there showing American GI's raping children they would have been released.
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 01:00 PM
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55. There are two things one can do in the face of a disagreement:
1. Convince the other party of your point, using logic, hard evidence, etc.

2. Agree to disagree and leave it at that.

I suggest picking one of the two, rather than acting as you have. You don't have to listen to me of course, but IMO your tone and name-calling came across as having no place in either of these two options.

Oh, and in case you mention the article, some opinions take more than just one article to change. Try harder, or leave the OP alone.

Hopefully you'll consider my words. Have a pleasant day.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 01:54 PM
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63. state the KNOWN evidence
which is what was linked to above.

seymour hersh is a respected journalist who has seen the photos, talked to people close to the crimes and discussed what he has seen and heard in public.

some of the photos have come out, numerous eyewitness reports have been reported in the international press and when this person is presented with the evidence they choose to still not believe.

i don't tolerate willing ignorance well considering the gravity of the charges and that they have been out there and ignored by the american press for years now, it is more than scandalous it is a crime.

no one should tolerate this IGNORANCE any longer.

Hopefully you'll consider my words. Have a pleasant day.


http://gallery.globalfreepress.com

peace
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 03:47 PM
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70. Ignorance and skepticism are two different things. n/t
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 03:53 PM
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73. and feigning skepticism in the face of evidence is a COP OUT
psst... pass the word ;->

peace
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 03:56 PM
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75. I'm sensing that there's no point in me continuing further. Bye. n/t
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:00 PM
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76. yeah, defending or chosing to IGNORE crimes of TORTURE, RAPE & MURDER
isn't worth continuing.

cya


http://images.globalfreepress.com

peace
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 01:32 PM
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97. kick
psst... pass the word

peace
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 03:49 PM
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72. Hear, Hear.
Good advice.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:00 PM
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28. So, our WAR CRIMES aren't crimes 'cause other criminals,...
,...criminal extremists, commit crimes?

Is that where you are going?

Go do a google,...there were Iraqi children who were raped.
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:10 PM
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35. If Iraqi children were raped by American GI's at Abu Ghraib why--
haven't I read anything about it in my Boston Globe,a Bush hating newpapapere if there ever was one?

There seems to be a lot of speculation and guessing,but no facts or proof.

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:15 PM
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38. You're just creating excuses for not facing the fact that war crimes,...
,...were committed.

Excusing war crimes is unAmerican and anti-democracy. There is NO EXCUSE for war crimes being committed by ANYONE!!!. Appeasing those who have authorized torture and/or those who engaged in torture is akin to saying, "I approve. Carry on."

*shaking her head*

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:19 PM
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39. good question
Seymour Hersh has mostly been trashed or ignored by our M$MWs... i wonder why, too... though he did speak about it and so did others.

children being videotaped being TORTURED in front of their own mothers for Christ's sake.

we better keep asking these questions till it STOPS.

peace
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:19 PM
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40. You seem to believe in the right-wing conspiracy theory
that a coalition of Muslims and evil libruls are out to get you, "candy". What, the Boston Globe doesn't fall on its knees worsipping your beloved Chimperor? Why, aren't they mean, they must be Bush-hatin' commies!

Seymour Hersh:

"Some of the worst things that happened you don't know about, okay? Videos, um, there are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib ... The women were passing messages out saying 'Please come and kill me, because of what's happened' and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It's going to come out."
http://www.lemonpillows.com/salon-ag.html

I'm sure you won't believe him either (the man who broke the Abu Ghraib story)?

After the recent "scandal" over Newsweek printing a story about something that has been known to happen for two years already, are you surprised the corporate media are reluctant to tell the full truth about Abu Ghraib?

Denial may be more comfortable in the short run, but it is not healthy in the long run.

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:53 PM
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53. Did you notice Faux News asserts the Boston Globe published photos?
There was an article in the Boston Globe about pictures of Iraqi women being raped by our military.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:15 PM
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78. UNBELIEVABLE!! you didn't read about it in the corporate media
so it must not be true!?
I never thought I'd see that from a DUer.
I have read your entire thread and wonder how anyone who is a regular at DU can be so ignorant.

I too had heard about these unreleased videos--BushCo knew that eventually their other atrocities would wipe "rumors" of them from the public memory--

so you think the Abu Ghraib jailers are nice compassionate people who would never rape and torture women and children? with the atrocities we DO know about (most of which I guess you dismiss as "humiliation") I do not doubt for one nanosecond that women and CHILDREN have SUFFERED UNBEARABLY in the demented jail of the AMERICAN INVADERS, the TORTURERS' JAIL.

send us a postcard from LaLa Land, 'kay?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:20 PM
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79. I'm pretty shocked that such horrific war crimes are being dumbed down.
Makes no sense to me, whatsoever. :shrug:
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:05 PM
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31. Your refusal to believe it won't change the fact that it did happen.
And in fact there are indeed photos and video of it; the same ones Rummy has already said the US gov will never release.

I wish a simple refusal to believe = changing the past reality. I truly wish.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:23 PM
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42. Do you think Seymour Hersh is credible?
Yes or no.

If no, please state why.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:26 PM
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43. Why don't you ask yourself why Rummy refuses to release the info
Edited on Thu May-19-05 12:29 PM by Just Me
you seek? If you need to watch a video before you will believe the testimony of witnesses, the reports of those who reviewed ALL the pictures and videos, the complete shock expressed by every representative who saw what Rummy allowed them to see,....then, go raise hell with Rummy and the neoCONs who say you can't see it 'cause you can't handle it.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 01:12 PM
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59. Yeah that Pullitzer-Prize winner Sy Hersh is SUCH a total rumormonger!
Not to mention the International Committee of the Red Cross!

MY GAWD all they do, all day long! Rumor-monger, rumor-monger, rumor-monger!

It's disgusting!

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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:32 PM
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84. Nick Berg's parents refused to allow his murder be used to promote war!
They came out with a statement that same week saying using their son's beheading as propaganda to further something he did not support would not be tolerated!

As to your other disbeliefs, maybe you've forgotten the 1800 or so photos that members of our Senate were allowed to view and they all came out of there with pasty, sick expressions on their faces...pure revulsion. Yup, I'd think we should ALL be clamoring to know WHAT WAS ON THOSE CDs!!


GOP leaders oppose release of more abuse images
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/12/congress.abuse/

The Pentagon's Secret Stash of Abu Ghraib Photos
http://peaceandjustice.org/article.php?story=20050401113139545



Under cover
How the White House's assault on the Freedom of Information Act enables torture, exposes media apathy, and hurts our ability to govern ourselves
BY DAN KENNEDY
http://www.portlandphoenix.com/features/other_stories/multi1/documents/04482083.asp

~snip~

Last May, members of Congress lined up to view photos and videos from Abu Ghraib that were widely described as being as bad as or worse than the images published in the Washington Post, the New Yorker, and other media outlets. According to an account in the Post, Democratic senator Bill Nelson, of Florida, told reporters, "Some of the videos are more disturbing than the still photos that youve seen." Aftergood immediately filed a FOIA request with the Defense Department but those pictures still havent seen the light of day. "Theyve been playing musical chairs with this request," he says.

Aftergood believes there is a heavy price to pay for such secrecy. In the name of protecting ourselves from terrorists, we are losing the ability to govern ourselves. "The danger is an erosion of the checks and balances on which we depend," he says. "We dont live in a monarchy. And we dont live in a country where the executive has unchecked authority. We have a separation of powers. But that separation of powers is under assault, and the executive branch is claiming more and more authority unto itself." He adds: "Not enough people care about it. I think that one of the consequences of official secrecy is to render people stupid. What I mean by that is that we lose confidence in our ability to be political actors, and to participate meaningfully in political debate. And Im afraid that that process is well under way. It amounts to a transformation of our political system away from the democratic ideal and towards a rule by the executive branch."


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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 06:25 PM
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87. You know what, I'm getting royally pissed at the string of excuses,...
,...for war crimes, violations of FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS, acts which are criminal according to U.S. laws!!!

Only criminals do shit like that! We are Americans! We believe ALL people live by the rules and by the laws!!! We believe abuse and torture and murder IS CRIMINAL and morally repugnant!!!
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:24 PM
Response to Reply #87
92. Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court!
I keep asking myself WHY does the rest of the world put up with it and it always comes back to the USA backing out of Clinton's signing of that Rome treaty. Now our prez is busy scurrying around the world, sucking up to a bunch of vile despots, who think just like the rest of our neo-con leaders, ensuring that the crimes committed in our name will never be heard in an international court!

It makes me sick! We are all complicit! I've been regularly writing since early 2002, to all of my Congresspeople, pleading that we should join with the rest of the world and support the International Criminal Court. It's really the only recourse there is for the world to make sure ALL criminal acts are identified and dealt with properly. It also could be a guarantee that our soldiers who aren't enjoying being "the bad guys" and are just as innocent as the rest of us would always be treated fair and with humanity.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:35 PM
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95. Yeah. I mean, who considers forcible sodomy "rape"? Or.. a 14 year old boy
Edited on Thu May-19-05 10:37 PM by impeachdubya
a "child"?

Uh huh.

if there was evidence it would have been released...

Oh, really? What planet are you living on? Don't you remember our congress- Republicans AND Democrats- talking about the (quote) "Worse, Far Worse" Abu Ghraib evidence? Evidence that disappeared, along with the rest of the story, down the memory hole as soon as Nick Berg's suspiciously timed beheading hit the internet?

I suppose you're equally "certain" that the same Donald Rumsfeld who made his first major response to Abu Ghraib the banning of digital cameras at the prison would be so "honorable" to make sure that the evidence you're so certain doesn't exist would see the light of day?

And yeah, Sy Hersh has said there is evidence of the rape of a 14 year old boy. Not that we'll ever see it.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:37 PM
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17. I take it you are drinking that information in.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. let's face it, is a tough pill to swallow
i am glad the OP, who obviously hasn't heard this info before, through no fault of their own - M$MW - paused to take this in.

this will KILL these evil FUCKS once this info gets out. it is our duty to NEVER FORGET and get this out there.

thanks for sharing :toast:

peace
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #12
44. Yeah, hardly anybody gets killed in Iraq - PLEEEESEE!!
Remember the big deal about the contractors being dragged through the streets?? Come on, stop repeating right-wing talking points!! DO you have any idea how many times I've heard RW'ers say this crap!!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 01:13 PM
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60. The fact that you KNOW and REMEMBER Nick Berg's name..
...proves that you have seen in depth coverage, as have most Americans.

Can you name just ONE of the people tortured at Abu-Ghraibib?

Do you remember that you only saw a fraction of the photos and only heard some of the stories in the Taguba report?

Do you remember that the Senators were shown pictures in a private session because the photos were too graphic to be shown tho the World?? (more graphic than a beheading????)

Does if matter that the people tortured (and killed) in Abu Ghraib were just more brown people, but that Berg was white????? Am I getting close???

Does it matter that Berg is only one man, but that the USA has killed and maimed OVER 150,000 innocent Iraqis??? Berg went to a war zone voluntarily. The Iraqi civilians didn't volunteer ANYTHING, and many of their deaths were much more painful and prolonged than Berg's suffering.
Can you NAME ONE Iraqi civilian that YOU are partially responsible for killing???( you helped buy the bombs, me too)
Thought not.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 01:31 PM
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62. Nick Berg's company was on a Freeper "Hit List".
No one knows who committed such horror on that young man. What we do know is that the same Abu Ghraib yellow walls and plastic white lawn chairs were shown in the video. He may someday be added as one of those tortured to death in the Abu Ghraib scandal.

What you say, about Americans not knowing the name of any of those victims,...makes me sad. How can anyone be so self-centered, so cold, so shallow that they reject in such an off-handed way the lives of so many people? THAT is NOT American. No one can convince me that such heartless behavior is American. It's monstrous!!!

And the absolute refusal to own responsibility for torturing others is just staggering!!!
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 03:48 PM
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71. Yellow walls and plastic lawn chairs? Wow!
You've convinced me----the good old USA did the beheadings.

Since I also have a room with yellow walls and own some plastic lawn chairs what does that say about me?

Conspiracy theories abound !
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 03:55 PM
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74. Did you watch it?
Edited on Thu May-19-05 04:51 PM by Just Me
Did you acquire ANY EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER as to the identity of the murderers? If so, where? You have been offered quite a bit of evidence which contradicts you conclusion that women and children were not subjected to torture. What evidence do you have as to the identity of those who murdered Nick Berg?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #71
82. What does that say about you?
If you have a yellow room with plastic lawn chairs in it I wuold say you need some decorating advice.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:29 PM
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93. Self delete because I know better than to even try
Edited on Thu May-19-05 10:31 PM by Bluebear
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:40 PM
Response to Reply #71
96. Whoever was responsible for Nick Berg's beheading
do you feel it justified the complete and utter halt in the release of new Abu Ghraib information?

Perhaps you were "outraged about all the outrage" around Abu Ghraib, as well. Whatever the truth behind the Nick Berg deal, no one can argue that immediately after his beheading, the flow of Abu Ghraib revelations and images stopped. And yes, there WAS supposed to be "worse, far worse" stuff coming down the pike.

Even though Big Brother would much prefer that we not remember that kind of thing.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 06:16 PM
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85. I'd like to see more coverage of the tens of thousands ....
of innocent Iraqis killed due to our illegal invasion. Are you aware that shrapnel from bombs beheads people too?

I'm curious why you think the beheadings didn't get enough coverage. Did they make you feel like "we are the good guys?" I kind of remember nothing but beheadings on the news for weeks despite the fact that these were truly isolated crimes, when the crimes committed by US forces were widespread.

Well, we're supposed to be the good guys. It's no news to me that there are murderers in the world. But it is news to me that US troops are murdering and torturing Iraqi prisoners. I am an Army vet and the Abu Ghraib crimes need LOTS MORE attention. They were and are a disgrace to MY ARMY and MY NATION. I want us to be the good guys and we must get to the bottom of who is responsible for these crimes.

Paid propagandists like Malkin can go to hell.

Your post reeks of hypocrisy.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #12
86. dupe - please delete
Edited on Thu May-19-05 06:19 PM by tabasco
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 02:17 PM
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66. MURDER IS PRETTY HUMILIATING,
The Abu Ghraib murderers killed Iraqis -- you have been believing the lies that it was only humiliation.

Please wake up, for the sake of everyone.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 10:57 PM
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3. She'd be pretty if she weren't a Republican
I can only assume it's her politics that's done that to her face.

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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 10:57 PM
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4. The woman has no soul. I see no reason to dwell on it. n/t
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:00 PM
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6. Michelle Malkin is a racist twit
I hate to say it but it's true.

There is a new face to racism and it's those that are racist against their own race. People like Michelle Malkin and Clarence Thomas fit this category.

Lets be honest, Republicans wouldnt embrace these people if they were'nt.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:07 PM
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10. You have to be self-hating to be a Republican.
Selling out your fellow Americans for fame and $ is the price of admitance.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:42 PM
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51. Her shtick is rising
Can we say "Michelle Malkin is a racist twit with a cliched shtick "

I don't really need to categorize her, but it feels fun to rhyme it now that I can see others have become incensed about her nit-wit verbiage
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:03 PM
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7. In Michelle's world........
all the soldiers hate our press and want them to go away. They'd much rather have heroic lies told so they can remain isolated in Iraq indefinitely, fighting for Big Oil's profits.

When is Michelle going to enlist?
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:03 PM
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8. She seems to be a very strange person
I remember when she used to be in the Seattle times, I would try to read her just for an opposing veiwpoint, but she never made any sense. Just a irritant with no real information. Useless.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:05 PM
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9. Her writing is very juvenile.
She writes without giving it a lot of critical thought, she knows what hot buttons she wants to push but it all comes out disorganized. I would take a few basic writings classes were I Michelle.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:11 PM
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11. I'm reminded of the Vietnam era General who criticized Cronkite
for reporting that parts of Saigon were burning during the Tet offensive. That report, the General said, may have cost America the war. What Cronkite had failed to mention, according to the General, was that many parts of Saigon *weren't* burning.

Here are ten things we know the media aren't responsible for in the Iraq debacle:

1.Sending US troops to invade a nation that was no threat to us or its neighbors in violation of international law.
2.Lying to the Congress, the UN and the American people to trump up a case for war.
3.Failing to send enough troops to secure a nation of 26 million people.
4.Failing to secure large stockpiles of munitions that could later be used against us.
5.Failing to properly equip combat troops with body armor and armored vehicles.
6.Failing to plan for a lengthy occupation.
7.Failing to defeat a bloody insurgency, despite declaring victory at least four times.
8.Torturing hundreds (possibly thousands) of Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan, Cuba and elsewhere.
9.The deaths of over 1700 US military men and women for no good reason.
10.The deaths of 30,000-100,000+ Iraqi men, women and children for no good reason.

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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:15 PM
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14. In my dreams... we dump that Malkin creature at Abu-Ghraib
after freeing all the illegally detained. We dump her and leave her there. Her and all the people, regardless of party, who played this incident down and supported this war.

Yes we dump you there and throw away the key.

You can then write to us and tell us just how down-played it was.

There isn't a hole in hell deep enough for such creatures.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-05 11:47 PM
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19. An Annthrax wannabe.
The abuse and torure in over 14 U.S. offshore prisons has been a Cover Up. The DOD has over 1,000 Photos and some Videos that they showed to a few in Congress and will never released. She is full of shit!
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 11:41 AM
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20. kick
people need to know about this

peace
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 11:44 AM
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21. The sad thing is we all lend her credence and
credibility by merely acknowledging she has uttered a word.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 11:49 AM
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22. I strongly disagree. all these M$MWs need to be challenged on EVERYTHING
they say that fosters HATE and VIOLENCE especially on matters that are ongoing and horrific.

this needs to be spread far and wide... it is way past time to STAND UP and take our beloved country back before it is too late.

peace
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 11:52 AM
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23. Yet another Republican appeaser of WAR CRIMINALS I see!!!
Well, this lady can kiss my pink, Patriotic, American ass!!!

She doesn't speak for me or any American who values Democracy and knows the rules of law apply to ALL war criminals EVEN if they are neoCONs or Republicans or Fristians!!!!

EW!!! These people really get my panties in a wad!!! *LOL*
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 11:54 AM
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24. It's Time For ALL Of The Pictures And Video To Be Released. -NT-
Jay
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:02 PM
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30. Agree!!! Let's put it all out there, once and for all!!!
I am sick and tired of these people nominalizing war crimes!!!
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 11:58 AM
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26. Where are the exit polls, you bitch?
You wanna speak on behalf of "duh trupes," show me the exit poll information that shows a majority of troops stationed in Iraq actually VOTED for Chimpy.

You can't, can you?

We all know the military has this information. And we all know why they've never released the information, don't we?

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:02 PM
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29. Rumsfeld over-hyping:
"acts that can only be described as blatantly sadistic, cruel and inhumane."

The photographic depictions of the US military personnel that the public has seen have offended and outraged everyone in the Department of Defense. If you could have seen the anguished expressions on the faces of those in our department upon seeing those photos, you would know how we feel today.

Republican Senator Chamblis over-hyping:

testified that his "stomach gave out."

Republican Senator McCain over-hyping:

Im gravely concerned that many Americans will have the same impulse as I did when I saw this picture, and thats to turn away from them.


Republican Senator Graham over-hyping:

The American public needs to understand were talking about rape and murder here. Were not just talking about giving people a humiliating experience.

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:07 PM
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32. NO, and I mean NO true American would nominalize such crimes!!!
Who the fuck do these people treating such serious matters as "quaint" or "silly" or "no big deal" think they are?!?!?!?!!!

Well, they are NOT Americans!!! NO REAL AMERICAN RATIONALIZES AWAY WAR CRIMES!!!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:12 PM
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36. Absolutely. NO REAL AMERICAN EVER trivializes abuse or torture or
rape or murder of another human being.

And if I may add;

NO REAL AMERICAN ever -NOT EVER- supports waging a "SUPREME CRIME" war of aggression, just as Hitler did, against any other nation. NOT EVER.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:38 PM
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50. You Forgot One Lynn.
Edited on Thu May-19-05 12:43 PM by jayfish
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21551-2004May12.html

<SNIP>
Keeping the pictures under wraps "protects the integrity of the legal process" and avoids "inspiring the enemy" to harm members of the U.S.-led coalition or civilians in Iraq, Warner said.
</SNIP


Jay

EDITED FOR TYPO (Geeze, you'd think I could get through five lousy words without a mistake)

Jay
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 01:09 PM
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57. Thanks, Jay! Re the "5 words and 1 typo" thing; I believe I can beat that
When the Court appointment of G.W. bush was announced in 2000, I typed only ONE word;

FCUK!

And was too embarrassed to go back & edit because everyone would see the "edited by" and know I'd had to go and edit. :D
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 01:20 PM
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61. LMAO! -NT-
Jay
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:30 PM
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45. Nominated.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:32 PM
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 06:29 PM
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88. It's the face of a rabid chipmunk
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:33 PM
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47. For someone as thin-skinned as Ms. Maglalang is
She sure is free with her prescriptions of a dose of "it's not so bad" for victims of torture.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:34 PM
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48. There is another post hereabouts
I read she is running the Frist filibuster "war room".
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:36 PM
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49. Boston Globe publishing porn photos passed off by an anti-war city council
This is my home town paper, must have missed this. Anyone have a link....I'm beginning to search.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:55 PM
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54. Here it is,...
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 01:05 PM
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56. this was regarding GIs raping Iraqi women
I dont remember this being a big story or having much coverage in the MSM. Yet the freepers are trying to convince me otherwise.

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 03:09 PM
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67. kick
peace
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 03:36 PM
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68. Indeed. nt
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:43 PM
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52. Contact
http://michellemalkin.com/contact.htm

Contact
I can be reached by e-mail at [email protected]. If you have a news tip, please put TIP in the subject line. If you prefer to use encrypted e-mail, please put HUSH in the subject line and I will send you my hushmail address. If you would like to inquire about SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS, put it in the subject line.

I can be reached by snail mail at: Creators Syndicate, 5777 W. Century Blvd., Suite 700, Los Angeles, CA 90045. I read all of my mail, but cannot always respond due to time constraints.

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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:39 PM
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80. to your sig line, you could add Quayle's quote:
"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between mother and child."
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 01:10 PM
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58. You know she would love to be the one
holding that leash!
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 02:05 PM
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65. she's jealous of all the College Republican worship of Coulter
so she's trying to outdo her hateful comments.

They both stink.

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 03:44 PM
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69. She's in need of a laxative
and an enema...and a good old fashion digging out...cause she's badly impacted
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:10 PM
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77. i love the picture selection
i also couldn't give two shits about what that fuckhole has to say.

notice how Malkin and her ilk must harness the military's justified disgust (lest their ire be directed at those who put them in the situation they find themselves) and "re-route" it to the citizens this military is honor-bound to defend.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:42 PM
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Lab2112 Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:58 PM
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83. RE: Michelle Malkin: Abu Ghraib abuse was overhyped by media
I wonder if this was the point of embarrassing Newsweek for the Koran flushing story -- the better to start attacking the rest of the "liberal media" with regard to the Abu Ghraib prison scandal.

If true, then Malkin is only doing what she's tasked to do, which is to put as many distortions, fabrications, and outright lies into printed and televised media. Then, right-wingnuts like Ann Coulter can find these articles via LexisNexis and use them to support her next "liberals are evil" book. Abu Ghraib is a horrible left-wing exaggeration -- Michelle Malkin said so!

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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 07:30 PM
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90. Does that bonehead Malkin still have a job? I forgot about her. n/t
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:31 PM
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94. That pretty much sums it up, doesn't it?
I wonder if she'd consider it overhyped if someone tortured her little girl in front of her, or took her child around a corner and fired off a gun to make her think she'd been executed?

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/05/19/detainee.abuse/

SNIP
In another incident, just two days later, Yancey's platoon found a man and his sons taking metal from an ammunition factory. A sergeant in the platoon detained the bunch and asked the man to choose which son should die.

Witnesses in the platoon said the sergeant took one of the sons around the corner of a building and fired a shot to scare the father into believing his son had been shot.

SNIP
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