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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 02:56 PM
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Quarantining dissent How the Secret Service protects Bush from free speech
I was just looking into old snippets and links in my diary, and found this article from the sf chronicle dated early 2004.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/01/04/INGPQ40MB81.DTL

Quarantining dissent
How the Secret Service protects Bush from free speech

When President Bush travels around the United States, the Secret Service visits the location ahead of time and orders local police to set up "free speech zones" or "protest zones," where people opposed to Bush policies (and sometimes sign-carrying supporters) are quarantined. These zones routinely succeed in keeping protesters out of presidential sight and outside the view of media covering the event.

When Bush went to the Pittsburgh area on Labor Day 2002, 65-year-old retired steel worker Bill Neel was there to greet him with a sign proclaiming, "The Bush family must surely love the poor, they made so many of us."

The local police, at the Secret Service's behest, set up a "designated free-speech zone" on a baseball field surrounded by a chain-link fence a third of a mile from the location of Bush's speech.

The police cleared the path of the motorcade of all critical signs, but folks with pro-Bush signs were permitted to line the president's path. Neel refused to go to the designated area and was arrested for disorderly conduct; the police also confiscated his sign.

Neel later commented, "As far as I'm concerned, the whole country is a free-speech zone. If the Bush administration has its way, anyone who criticizes them will be out of sight and out of mind."

More:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/01/04/INGPQ40MB81.DTL

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Doesn't it tell a lot of how the SS has become *'s ideological 'protectors/promotors' as well as his security guard? (Re: his appearance in Georgia recently). Now, this stunt with moving protesters out of sight has several advantages--if you see it from the Rovian pow--not only is the chimp spared the stress of seeing opposition; you'd also get much better TV pictures. Cheering, happy, stoned Bushites, that's better than the general riff raff of democracy.

I risk one more quote:

"Denise Lieberman of the American Civil Liberties Union of Eastern Missouri commented, "No one could see them from the street. In addition, the media were not allowed to talk to them. The police would not allow any media inside the protest area and wouldn't allow any of the protesters out of the protest zone to talk to the media."

What ho? No media in the lib camp?
It turns into a propaganda roadshow, where they not only are helped by a massive amount of money and influence, they also physically remove all dissent by sanitizing the space before the stage AND deny them access to media.

On the same page in my diary, I found this list of *'s travel requirements abroad (from Mother Jones, I think):

"Lima, Peru
March 2002, 17 hours
While Bush praised President Alejandro Toledo's "commitment to democracy," the Peruvian government shut down Lima's airspace and banned all demonstrations. Seven thousand security officers hit the streets, teargassing and arresting the (fool)hardy few who came out to protest.

Gorée Island, Senegal
July 2003, 6 hours
Residents were roused at daybreak so U.S. security teams could search their houses with dogs. They were then herded into a soccer stadium, where, as one local put it, "we were shut up like sheep," while Bush visited the island's infamous former slave depot.

Manila, Philippines
October 2003, 8 hours
The city spent $180,000 repainting streets, planting flowers—and bulldozing slums. Bullhorn-wielding authorities told the residents of one shantytown, "Either you tear down your houses yourself, or we'll tear them down for you. President Bush is coming!"

Bali, Indonesia
October 2003, 3 hours
At least 5,000 security and military personnel were deployed to protect Bush during his Indonesian layover. Tourists shared the beaches with tanks and complained of being locked in their hotels.

Bangkok, Thailand
October 2003, 3 days
Ten thousand homeless people were detained in army camps, 3,000 stray dogs were hauled off to the countryside, and sex workers were told to lie low. A quarter-mile-long, four-story-high banner depicting scenes from Thai history was raised to hide a sprawling slum.

London, England
November 2003, 4 days
British officials showed some backbone by refusing U.S. requests to shut down the London Underground, bomb-proof Buckingham Palace, arm the presidential motorcade with heavy machine guns, and extend diplomatic immunity to American snipers. However, the president was guarded like royalty, with a security detail that included 700 Secret Service agents and 5,000 bobbies."

All I'm saying is: weird.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:02 PM
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1. Bush in a Bubble...
I think the events of yesterday tell it all-
Bush was not even notified of the "incident" with the
Cessna, but everyone else was evacuated....
Wouldn't want to bother his "beautiful mind" now would we.
I assure you, Bush has NO idea what is going on.
He is completely manipulated and told that Americans
and the whole world LOVES him.
Freedumb is on the march and all...
BHN
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:11 PM
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5. Agreed. Chilling, isn't it?
> He is completely manipulated and told that Americans
and the whole world LOVES him.

This is a sure sign of fascism IMHO. Hitler HAD power, and I don't think anyone could have challenged that, but he for sure was 'bubbled', as the surrounding people held (bad) info from him in fear of their lives.

Thinking of how fascism is built up, it makes sense.

This neo-fascism is different because it don't seem to be run by the man in the bubble, but the people standing in the shadows behind him.

No excuse for * of course. :evilgrin: He's in on it, allright.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:05 PM
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2. in fact, he himself said that he was in a bubble some time ago:
his new name is Chimp-Inna-Bubble; it fits well with his brothers Piglet and Herpes
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:07 PM
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3. Our nation's capitol took back their (our) streets yesterday.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3649212

ACLU Applauds New D.C. Law Protecting Protest Rights

May 2, 2005




FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: [email protected]

Law Takes Effect on Eve of World Bank Demonstrations

WASHINGTON -- The American Civil Liberties Union of the National Capital Area today welcomed a new law approved by the D.C. City Council that strengthens the First Amendment rights of peaceful protesters, and limits police use of "protest pens" and mass arrests. The law takes effect on the eve of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund meetings and the demonstrations that traditionally accompany them, which have led to police-protester confrontations in recent years.

"This is a happy day for everyone who cares about liberty," said Arthur Spitzer, Legal Director of the ACLU of the National Capital Area. "This landmark legislation will help ensure that the nation’s Capital will be a place where all Americans can exercise their rights of free speech and assembly without fear of police brutality and false arrest."

The city council bill, known as the "First Amendment Rights and Police Practices Act of 2004," became a law this week after passing the required period of review by Congress. The new law declares that people have a right to demonstrate "near the object of their protest so they may be seen and heard," and makes clear that people do not need police permission to exercise their constitutional right to freedom of speech. The law also prohibits police from arresting an entire assembly when only a few people are breaking the law, requires police to display visible identification when handling demonstrations, restricts the use of police lines to entrap demonstrators who have not broken any law, and prohibits the use of tear gas and pepper spray on peaceful protesters.

Enactment of the new law followed a two-year D.C. Council investigation of the Metropolitan Police Department’s handling of anti-war and anti-globalization demonstrations between 2000 and 2002. Under the leadership of Judiciary Committee Chair Kathy Patterson (Ward 3), the investigation found that police had violated the free speech rights of hundreds of demonstrators, had engaged in unjustified police surveillance of political organizations, and had acted preemptively against demonstrators in an apparent effort to hamper the exercise of First Amendment rights.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:09 PM
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4. Off topic but...
the picture in your sig line is quite beautful-
is it yours?
BHN
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:44 PM
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16. Yes, thank you.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:31 PM
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7. Yay! This is great!
It takes some time to get the legislation done, but it works!
And it is a good sign when the DC does this, it sends a signal to other locations.

A very positive sign :)
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:53 PM
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8. Why would DC need to pass a law affirming
the Bill of Rights? Shouldn't the powers to be in the police department that violated the First Amendment be fired and DC itself be under legal and financial sanctions for allowing the First Amendment to be violated?

Why a law to say the First Amendment is valid?
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 08:46 PM
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17. I agree.
But D.C. has always been a special case, with no true representation in congress or any state government.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 03:22 PM
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6. Is there still anyone who wonders why they hate "US"?
"Gorée Island, Senegal
July 2003, 6 hours
Residents were roused at daybreak so U.S. security teams could search their houses with dogs. They were then herded into a soccer stadium, where, as one local put it, "we were shut up like sheep," while Bush visited the island's infamous former slave depot."
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:28 PM
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9. While that is reprehensible
The Democrats set up a very pernicious First Amendment Zone in Boston last summer at the Democratic convention. I was appalled that they would emulat Bush.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:38 PM
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11. Hmmmm...
Why talk about what the Democrats are doing, or not doing for that matter?
This thread is about what Bush is doing ;-)

The Democratic Convention was a friendly and open setting, I followed it on the net. I also followed the Republican Convention later on - I would not hesitate to use the word appalling at what I saw.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:35 PM
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10. Schutzstaffel or Secret Service?
It is confusing when you use the acronym "SS", as i can't tell by the
context that you're not talking about real nazis... and only later
am i comforted that you're really only talking about the waffen-SS,
OUR praetorian guard, and not some nazis.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:39 PM
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12. Even when the thread is titled 'Secret Service'?
;-)
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:42 PM
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13. SS is SS is SS is SS is SS and still acts like SS
The acronym is much more than ironic. Hitler preached to similarly
cleansed audiences, purged of dissent, and here, the new SS is just
like the old one.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:48 PM
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14. Oh, irony
Sorry, wasn't tuned in ;-)
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 06:54 PM
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15. Don't worry
"Every sperm is sacred."

I have this on high authority. ;-)
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