all soldiers who signed up to avenge 9-11 were lied to and betrayed

[mopaul]

pat tillman is just one example. how often have we heard that same story since nine eleven? a young man, so moved by the event that he joined the army and fought for his country.

but he was lied to and betrayed and fucked over instead.

and they all died in vain.

[BlueEyedSon]

1. Uhh.... Mo, every f*cking US citizen was lied to and betrayed re:9/11.

[ugarte]

2. Thankfully people are wising up

Not many signing up these days.

[whistle]

3. I wonder how much of an impact the Michael Moore movie F9-11

..had on this awakening in the general population as a whole and among military conscription aged people specifically?

[Pinboy]

4. Yes, but...

They did not need a "just" war to justify their loss. Their lives were justified by their living. The war may have been in vain -- their lives never were.

[Brewman_Jax]

5. Too many are still drinking the kool aid

Got into a shouting match with one of our trivia players (neo-conservative religionist asshole) who made the mistake of blaming Clinton (with me listening) for Iraq. I asked the killer question, "so, shitforbrains, where ARE the WMDs that 1600+ service members died over, or are you gonna keep saying that your buddy George W. told the truth?" He talked about everything else EXCEPT the lie that Bush* told. He even said that all of the other countries intell services agreed. I told him that NO ONE said that Iraq was an immediate threat and that was another lie. My brother had to restore order.

He said that I was a liberal. I said that at least I'm not a neo-conservative asshole who has to turn off his brain, like you are!