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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 08:51 AM
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Any other gals here spot red flags in runaway bride story?
Early on I saw a clip of the fiancee with following quote:
"There'll be one of two outcomes; Either she's in the arms of our Lord Jesus, or she'll be coming home to me."

Does anyone else think that she was getting more pressure than just the typical cold feet all of us married gals remember?

How big is Duluth?. Aside from just "feeling pressured", could she have more trapped by her circumstances?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 08:57 AM
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1. Trapped or no, she wasn't exactly bound there with handcuffs.
No one would've tortured her for her honesty. What she did was pretty scummy, imho.
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 08:58 AM
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2. yeah
Edited on Mon May-02-05 09:17 AM by sad_one
I was feeling really sorry for the fiance until he had the preacher come out and announce that she had sinned and he had forgiven her. Now I think run Jennifer run-- escape while you can.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:02 AM
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6. I spotted that too...
That was one of the bell ringers.
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 08:58 AM
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3. People who live together for 5 yrs. don't have royal weddings
I bet his or her family was forcing the ludicrous extravaganza on her, and she had enough.

She's still no less thoughtless and inconsiderate though.

Duluth is an Atlanta burb. So, if you're a blue blood, it's a small town. If you're new to town, it's just an outward extension of a big city.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:00 AM
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4. Duluth is small town that has been absorbed in the ATL sprawl
It's just a part of the big Atlanta suburban ring.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:00 AM
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5. (Actually looking for FEMALE feedback)
thanx anyway guys...
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dmkinsey Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:13 AM
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10. Hmm,
my opinion is not valued due to my gender.
Bummer
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:45 AM
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17. I love men and their opinions...
But here, in what I believe to be a situation involving power and social situations, I expect that there will be diverging viewpoints. I hadn't seen the discussion here from the distaff side (the fact that this even IS an expression should be noted).
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:24 AM
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15. That stay-puff marshmello guy she's engaged to....
and that whole Sinner in the arms of God thing would have made me join the french foreign legion.....

I think she was pressured by her family, his family, everyone.... at any rate there was NO BODY for her to turn to....
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:15 PM
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61. A Frank Luntz-wannabee
:)
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:43 PM
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75. Don't forget -
- that she was a Sunday School teacher. Birds of a feather type of thing.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:07 AM
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7. I saw a quote on the news this morning from some lady
who lived in Duluth and was quite angry about the stunt. "I prayed for her!" she said, going on to say that Ms. Wilbanks should have charges filed against her. Was she disappointed there wasn't a body?

Yes, Ms. Wilbanks may well deserve to have some charges filed against her for making false claims, but I would hope anyone who was concerned enough to pray for her safe return would be thankful that those prayers were apparently answered.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:08 PM
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44. Yeah.. that was creepy!
I read that several times.. that people who prayed she was alive are now angry that she was. God answered their prayers.... isn't that enuff?? :eyes:
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:07 AM
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8. Ya know...
...I have read bits and pieces about the story, but really haven't been keeping tabs, so I don't know everything. But my personal opinion on just what you say the fiancee said I believe a lot of women who marry or get into relationships with really religious wackos (read religious right morAns) experience battered wife syndrome.

If this woman was going through a lot of religious pressure with her fiancee, then she is one hell of a brave woman for getting out.

Many think that this is all they deserve and end up suffering through a rotten life because of it. That is of course battered wife syndrome. And remember ladies, you don't have to be married to your parter to experience it. I went through it with my ex for 15 years before I got out. And we were never married, thank Goddess for that!
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:11 AM
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9. It seems like she felt desperate
for whatever reason.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:14 AM
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11. Female point of view
From what I have gathered from the Atlanta paper, these two families were supposedly moneyed families that have been there forever.

I read with great interest in yesterday's front page interview with her dumbass fiance that while being camped out at the Fox News tent, he was more interested in knowing when Hannity was coming to interview him than in knowing when his beloved would be home.

She bought this ticket over a week ago knowing she was going to leave and then let this sham go on for days. She better be charged with whatever they can make stick and she damn well better be made to pay back every damn penny that law enforcement put out looking for her stupid ass.

And yes, I'm bitter for having to hear about this shit all weekend long. And I'd just like to personally thank Ms. Nutcase of the Week for bringing the 'I'm stupid and I don't care that the whole country knows it' spotlight to Georgia. It had been almost 2 whole months since something like this (i.e. Cobb Co school textbooks = no evolution sticker) shoved our dumb asses in front of the country. This state is eat up with stupid people. And before you bleeding hearts jump on me - admit it, this is just dumb and her childish, selfish act caused a lot of heartache for her family, that guy's family, friends and wasted a lot of people's time and money.

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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:48 AM
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18. I agree with you, RubyDuby
The woman is 33 years old, fer cripes sake. We're not talking an 18 year old blushing bride, here. If she didn't have the gumption to stand up to her family and fiance, perhaps she's not mature enough to get married.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:19 AM
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12. I don't think so
Don't ask me why, but I believe she really did get cold feet. She probably took a step back and looked at everything, and just panicked. From what I understand, both she and the man are from prominent families. It could be that this marriage meant more to the families than it did to her -- why else invite 600 people to the show? And, when you have families that have that much invested in one day, it's kind of hard to go to them on the Thursday before such a production and say, "Uh...I need some time to think about this." I wonder just how much say she really had in this whole bash. If there are any circumstances to be trapped in, I think this would be it.

She probably thought the cancellation of the wedding would be much more justifiable and understandable if it were thought she had been abducted and killed. Twisted reasoning, for sure, but when you're desperate, anything sounds like a plan.

If she were under any pressure, I think it was from the families to make this match happen. When it got down to brass tacks, she just could not do it. Bad family dynamics, IMHO.

As for the Jesus reference, I thought it was a pretty typical remark.

She should face charges for this.
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DARE to HOPE Donating Member (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:20 AM
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13. I said early that I thought she had run...
It was the body language in those pictures. She looked like she was pulling away from him.

I posted in another thread that it may have been the counseling that spooked her. The Southern Baptists preach that wives must "submit" to their husbands. She may have been content to live with him. But finding out about THAT little "rule" may have suddenly invaded her consciousness.

I agree with folks who have said she may have had no one to talk to because both her Mom and her fiance seemed somewhat controlling.

The good news is she is home safe. I wish for them all some humility and self searching that will help them all heal.
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Cattledog Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:21 AM
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14. Duluth is
Edited on Mon May-02-05 09:26 AM by Cattledog
about 15 miles outside of Atlanta in one of the fastest growing counties in the US. Typical Suburban Bush country. The AJC this weekend in a front page story called her husband a "Fox News Groupie" because he ran over to the FNC tent after the initial report of her being released by kidnappers. Apparently he was there saying "Where's Sean? When is Sean Hannity gonna talk to me".

CD
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:24 AM
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16. Fuck 'em is all I have to say!
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:50 AM
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19. LOL
:thumbsup:

dp
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:38 PM
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66. Good Curdling Jeebus On A Pogo Stick
I concur. Is this really news or important? I live abroad and I have no fucking clue about this non story story. Is this really all CNN or MSNBC or FOX is blathering about?

FUCKWITTAGE. Nonsense.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 09:55 AM
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20. I didn't really follow it, but...
I did catch one brief segment on CNN when they were featuring people who called in to say whether they thought the guy should still marry her.

They'll probably be inspired to make a new show, "Lets all sit in judgment of each other". It would probably be a hit.

She could be charged with false informing from when she was caught - but if she hadn't done that - what she did wouldn't have been illegal.

I think it's just another case of the media not covering the real news.
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doodadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 10:00 AM
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21.  The only reason this story made the news
is because they were hoping for another Laci Peterson type story to cover for the next year. How many people disappear every single day, and it doesn't make the news? How sick is that?
And from a woman's perspective, every picture you saw of this couple together, her eyes are huge--like a deer in the headlights.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 10:47 AM
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25. Deer in the headlights is possibly a reaction to a flash camera
Some people open their eyes really wide to counteract blinking prior to the shot being taken.

Video footage of the woman does not indicate that she permanently wore that expression 24/7.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 10:50 AM
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26. Another anti-white middle class female post.
What is it w/some posters, who seem to think that any time a middle class white woman ends up on the news, it means that minorities and white males are being discriminated against?

This is news, pure and simple. How many women joggers have disappeared this past year just days before her wedding? How many? I'll tell you. One. That, my friend, makes it a news item. And that is the case, regardless of her race or status.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:22 PM
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49. Uhhh... I doubt that.
People disappear ALL the time.

Check out the National Center for Missing Adults Website. They have at least 30,000 people registered as missing.

Do you remember CNN's 24/7 coverage when Tequila Jones disappeared? Didn't think so. She went missing from Georgia in February of 04.



I don't know if she was getting married or not... but why would that make it more newsworthy?

I have nothing against white middle-class women. I am one!

But to say that the bride's being white, suburban and good-looking and of a moneyed family has nothing to do with her being a news story is just plain silly.

The MSM is a mess. I think we can all agree with that.

What troubles me more is how much more police power went into looking for the missing bride than went into finding Tequila Jones. And yes, I'm making assumptions here.

But I've been living here long enough to know how things are done.


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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:07 PM
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70. I think you're mixing apples and oranges. "Tequila" Jones? Is
that her real name?

There are scores of people, men and women of all races, who go missing every day. Most of them are no surprise....they have a history of disappearing, they live on the edge of society, or some other reason that people conclude it wasn't just an out and out abduction and murder.

This one was different. She was jogging. (Remember the Central Park jogger? Our country has a history with that activity.) It was a few days before her wedding. Very different from the norm.

Prostitutes, for example, disappear....and reappear. So it's not exactly big news when one disappears. It only becomes evident after time, when she doesn't reappear.

Druggies disappear. Sometimes they don't reappear.

See the difference? I do.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 06:03 PM
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77. You should do some research into missing people.
There are many, many, many of them; only a precious few get national news time. They are not all prostitutes and "druggies."

A young male college student in my town vanished a few days ago; his parents are offering rewards, there are signs all over town.

This happens to be a subject that interests me, so I follow these stories.

You are wrong if you think this story deserved the media frenzy it received, or if you think it was somehow a more newsworthy story than that of all the thousands of people who are missing right now.

America **loves** stories about beautiful, well-bred women in peril.

It's less interested in stories about the ugly, the fat, the poor, or the ordinary. And the MSM isn't helping at all.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:44 PM
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57. I don't think so
It is not anti-white to point out the racist bias the media has in only covering affluent white women. And I say that being one myself. This was a local news story, at best. Please, no more Poor Whitey posts. It's really embarrassing.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:31 PM
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64. LOL @ "poor whitey posts" nt
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:27 PM
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71. is that www.poorlittlewhitey.com or . org?
:evilgrin:
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:53 PM
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76. LMAO!!!
I agree, the media is riddled with racism. There are numerous studies on this----it's not just an unfounded opinion.

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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 06:08 PM
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78. I remember
Edited on Mon May-02-05 06:09 PM by Pithlet
A few years ago when a little boy disappeared for about a day. The local media was all over it. Not that I'm against that. I believe they had a duty to help broadcast his info so that he could be found. And he was, with his dog, shaken but unhurt in the woods near his family' home. Complete coverage complete with graphics. "Little Boy Lost!!!!!!" The whole bit.

What angers me is that same day a Latino toddler in the same coverage area went missing. Was last seen walking down the street unattended. Was mentioned by the same station in passing. I never saw a follow up story. No graphics and breaking coverage. I have no idea if he were ever found. The only difference between the two children that I could see was their race. One boy was blond haired and blue eyed. He got the coverage that possibly saved his life. The other did not.

I'm a mother of two blond haired blue eyed boys. I would want the media as well as the authorities would do all they could if the unthinkable happened. That same consideration should be extended to others. It should not be based on race or socioeconomic borders. For every Laci Peterson/Elizabeth Smart/Insert Pretty White Female Here, there's at least one who suffers the same fate, if not worse, who gets zero national coverage, and they're lucky if they get more than a passing note for local coverage.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:23 AM
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30. She has a physical illness
Her eyes are like that because of a physical cause, not an emotional state. The eyes are symptomatic of an endrocrine disorder, like Grave's disease. The condition is called exophthalmy.

Barbara Bush has the same condition -- and you can be sure she's not a frightened timid soul! :-)

I can see that lay persons on DU might assume it was a psychological state, but what bugged me was that "psychologists" on CNN did not have the brains to know that her eyes were not indicative of a mental state, but a physical disorder -- no excuse!
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:14 PM
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48. I noticed that too about the eyes
It was weird. I thought maybe she was on medication or something but apparently not.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 10:00 AM
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22. I managed to avoid most of the story....
But the recent "Royal" wedding in the UK brought up an old story. Apparently, Diana found out a few days before the (original) wedding that Charles was still in love with Camilla. But one of her relatives pointed out that, after all the planning, it was "too late" to back out. As a 19 year old facing the "wedding of the century"--she just went ahead with it. Alas for all of them.

The Runaway should have been mature enough to honestly say "no"--especially since law enforcement was involved. And I hope her fiancee learns that there is a 3rd possible outcome.

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Divameow77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 10:18 AM
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23. Last year a girl in Wisconsin,
Audrey Seiler, took off and pretended to have been kidnapped, it was pre-meditated, she bought supplies and police and volunteers were looking for her. She obviously needs counseling for her mental issues, but I think Audrey basically got off with a slap on the wrist.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 10:25 AM
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24. I can make a case for Audrey
But this gal, I think, knew exactly what she was doing. Momentary loss of sense, but I think the element of culpability is still very much there.

At the very least, charge this woman for what it cost to mount the search.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:27 AM
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31. 9K in restitution for Audrey. She has 3 years to pay it.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 10:51 AM
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27. Excuse me, a man, from butting in.....
....but ya know, the girl fixed things where she can salvage the rest of her life. Whether she does so or not, who knows, but she made a big change happen, eh?

The poor girl must have really been scared to have concocted such a scheme. Scared and alone with no one to help her, or even listen. But now there's a whole bunch of people who will listen: she has help. She may even be able to get away from that guy?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:49 PM
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67. SHE'S NOT A "GIRL"... She's a THIRTY-TWO yr old WOMAN
Edited on Mon May-02-05 03:49 PM by SoCalDem



Everyone is saying "poor girl..got cold feet"..

She LIED to authorities just like Martha Stewart did.. Martha "made" less in her deal than this "girl" COST taxpayers..

Her family put up a reward about the same amount as is claimed that it cost to look for her.. If they were smart, they would just write out a check...and get this behind them..

Jennifer needs some psycholocial therapy, and then to just drop out of sight.. If she ever does marry, I would suggest Vegas :)
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:02 AM
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28. I disagree
Edited on Mon May-02-05 11:28 AM by chookie
A disturbing detail is that from the beginning, she made the incident appear to be a criminal event, an abduction: she threw her clothes out of the bus window, to leave a trail of evidence, which could have only been interpreted by law enforcement that something awful had happened.

That detail does NOT fit in with the idea that she is some poor battered soul.

Also -- if you have heard the 911 tape, you hear a woman doing a hell of a great job lying about being abducted, and pretending to have being the traumatized victim of a terrible crime. This too does not fit in with the idea that she is a poor battered soul.

And would a person with assertion problems, beaten down by an oppressive family, choose VEGAS to escape to? I think you have to be pretty tough to think about going to Vegas by yourself.

I think you nice ladies are projecting onto her. Some of you have had experiences with dickheads, so that is what you are reading into this. She might not be forced by a controlling boyfriend into a wacky religious atmosphere -- she might well be a willing participant in this community and share her live-in fiance's worldview.

Also -- he does not fit the profile of a controlling dickhead -- a dickhead with control issues would have flipped out when this happened and would be seeing revenge -- NOT welcome her back and still be willing to marry her.

It appears to me -- the extreme attention drawing behavior, the histrionic details, the pathological lying, that she has a serious mental illness -- probably a narcissistic personality disorder with histrionic features.

BTW -- she's STILL lying. Her family are so "supportive" that they seem to be unable to confront the notion that there could be any negativity in her. It is quite common for families and friends to be unable to honestly face up to mental illness in a loved one -- it's amazing the lengths people go to to assure themslves everything is just fine. Already they seem to be making excuses for the inexcusable. Her prognosis is extremely poor.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:17 AM
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29. Was she "trapped" into identifying her imaginary kidnappers as a Hispanic
and his white girlfriend?

Georgia Princess played the race and the miscegenation card--I have no sympathy for her whatsoever.

She and the fiance deserve each other.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:29 AM
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32. Why couldn't she just say they were both white?
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:36 AM
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35. That's what I'd like to know
Instead, she conjured up images of a swarthy male and his white woman--expertly plucking those southern racist chords.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:43 AM
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38. Not "conjured up"
She did not make this up out of whole cloth. Expert liars (and she appears to be a pathological liar) draw their "convincing" details from real life.

It is, to me at least, more disturbing that she based the description on a couple she met in Vegas who befriended her, and with whom she travelled with on the bus to Albuquerque.

It may have an element of racism in it, but I think it was fortuitous.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:45 AM
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40. Thanks, chookie, saw your post below, too
I think it has all kinds of nasty elements to it.

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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:30 AM
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33. She is clearly anorexic and that usually means a host of other
problems from OCD to depression. Nice gal, letting her family & friends think she was dead or tortured, etc.

Let the family use the $ from the not-(EVER)-happening BIG FAT wedding to repay the taxpayers.

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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:38 AM
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36. What a great idea to use the wedding funds for reparations!
I think she also has a major personality disorder, too?
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:38 AM
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37. Not necessarily anorexia
Her extreme thinness, given the symptom of her bulging eyes (exophthalmy) might be the result of a physical disorder -- endocrine in nature, probably thyroid. She might have Grave's disease.

Unlikely that an anorexic or depressive could be a marathon runner -- she would be too weak.
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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:05 PM
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43. clearly anorexic??
I'm amazed at the number of diagnostic physicians that post here- you'd think they'd be pretty busy with their personal practices...
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:53 PM
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69. I agree, DU should be above video diagnosis
Leave that niche to Dr. Frist, everybody.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 06:08 PM
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79. So it's okay to call he a B, spoiled, abused (!), her fiance gay,
but don't mention her obvious extreme thinness? C'mon.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:52 PM
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53. Right, I think she's got an eating disorder too,
and needs therapy big-time.

And yes, she, should have to make reparations.

And with her little story about the kidnappers, she could've caused some innocent people some harrassment by police.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:35 AM
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34. She based it on a couple she met in Vegas
Her description was based on a real couple. She had been befriended by a couple, Hispanic male and white female, she had met in bus station in Vegas, and accompanied them to Albuquerque on the bus. You can't get more uncool than fingering innocent people.

Also -- the poor innocent battered fragile victim that everyone in this thread is fawning over also made it look, from the beginning, that she was the victim of a crime -- she threw the clothes she was last seen out the window onto the highway, where they would be found by police and interpreted as evidence of a crime. That is the act of a severely mentally ill, aggressive person, not a sad timid mouse trying to escape her tormentors.


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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 11:43 AM
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39. Yeah, that's even more sickening
I didn't know about throwing the clothes onto the highway--clearly this sweet lil Georgia Peach wanted her loved ones to experience maximum pain and suffering.
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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:03 PM
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42. severly mentally ill??
whatever you say, doctor...:eyes:
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:12 PM
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60. OK then not mentally ill - just a SERIOUS bitch
for only thinking of herself and causing so much hurt and expense. It would be more excusable if she IS severely mentally ill.
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:47 PM
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52. This is why I have no sympathy for her
If the police and the FBI had believed her, would this couple have been arrested? What indignities would they have had to suffer? Instead of blaming innocent people, she should have told the FBI the truth.

If she is truly a victim of abuse, lying to the FBI and police is the worst thing she could have done. Had she told them that she was fleeing her abusive fiance, she would not have gotten into trouble. They may have referred to a battered woman's shelter. They would not have forced her to return to her abuser. However, if she claims she is abused now, not many people will believe her because she has a track record for lying.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:14 PM
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47. Exactly
To me, that signals that there is NO excuse for her. She realized that she had gotten herself into a deep holem and what better way to AGAIN deflect attention than to make it a race thing? This whole scheme was doomed from the beginning. But once you're in it over your head, you're in it.

My theory from the start was that she got pissed at her fiance and wanted to get back at him by reinventing Scott Peterson. It might be a combination of the two: Pressure at the wedding, and being pissed. Who the hell knows, and really, who the hell cares? A lot of people go missing -- truly missing -- everyday. Yet this ditz gets the attention. Make her reimburse the cops for their trouble, and charge her with whatever she can be charged with, and let's move on.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:01 PM
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41. She ain't right in the head.
Doesn't matter how much pressure she was getting, or how "trapped" she felt. Every man and woman among us feels pressure. How we deal with it is one of the marks of maturity. And sanity. She's not mature, and she's not sane.

She didn't want to take responsibility for disappointing others so she tried to paint herself as a victim. In the process she harmed other people. She took years off the lives of her parents, I can guarantee that. I don't care if they (or her fiance) turn out to be the worst kind of RW fundy freepers, there is no excuse for a person of her years to take such actions unless she is mentally or emotionally impaired.

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:11 PM
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45. The husband-to-be sets off my GAYdar bigtime.
I don't care that they've lived together for several years prior.

And now I find out he was jonesing for Hannity to interview him?

I think I know why the bride-to-be got cold feet.

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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:12 PM
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46. She handled it badly, but I do feel compassion for her.
I mean.. .600 wedding invitations? 28 in the bridal party? Sounds like she was being carried along into someone's vision of a wedding. When they say that she and her family were stressed by this, sounds like there was pressure from all sides to have this mega-wedding. Also, the fiancee is being held up as this perfect man, this perfect Christian man whom everyone loves, then if she has doubts, it would be nearly impossible to be honest and call it off.

Perhaps some people can't see that.. but there are thousands of brides that KNOW just before the wedding that it is a mistake and go through with it anyway.. just because they can't disappoint all the people who have made HER wedding the most important thing in THEIR lives. She probably felt as though this was the only way to escape it... Talk to people who divorce shortly after marriage, and they'll tell you that they knew it was a mistake, but went through with it anyway because of outside pressure.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:24 PM
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50. I feel the same
If you are generally feeling insecure about gettting married, than you should call it off.

So her instincts are probably correct, even if they didn't come out the "right" way. No pun intended.

And the fincee has a jones for 5 minutes in the floodlights with Hannity more than he wants to know how his intended is doing?! :wtf:
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Samurai_Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 01:00 PM
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56. Exactly!
This happened to me in 1995. Not the whole running away thing, but KNOWING just before the wedding I was making a mistake, but going through with it anyway. The night before my wedding, I was having SEVERE reservations. I had been single 14 years (I was 35 at the time), and my alarm bells were ringing big time. Even during the wedding I was thinking "I shouldn't be doing this." But, as you said, it was 'too late' to call it off, and disappoint everyone.

It lasted 2 1/2 long, torturous years. That's when I finally CONFIRMED he was a pathological liar and serial adulterer. Got my divorce in 1998 and have not looked back since. What a nightmare. Although this woman went to the extreme to break off her wedding, I do know how she might have felt. But I could never put my family and friends through the hell she put hers through by making up that abduction story.

Peace,
Bella
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:32 PM
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51. "Gals" is a red flag
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 02:57 PM
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58. Word.
I may be a "gal," but am sans "hubby" so I doubt my input has been solicited here.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:04 PM
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59. Mebbe it's secret code...
:evilgrin:
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:54 PM
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54. I agree with ForeignCorrespondent, post #8
Really was typical of battered wife syndrome. If she goes ahead with the marriage, I fear for her children.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 12:57 PM
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55. P.S. One of the things people wonder about abused women is
"why in the world didn't you get out of the relationship? Why did you stay?" If she is an abused partner (using religion as a weapon, a psychological weapon), and was trying to "get out" she chose a poor method, but she did try. I have sympathy for her, even if she did waste the law-enforcement resources. When you are trying to "get out" you don't think of those kinds of things....I know.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:20 PM
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62. That's what they have womens shelters for, and the police - I know
Making excuses for bad behavior is itself, poor behavior.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:27 PM
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63. She is a spoiled brat, like Paris Hilton or something
At 32/33, she should have the courage to just say "no" and move on with her life. Besides, isn't her clock running out (if you know what I mean)? And the nerve of her to try to blame her "kidnapping" on Mexicans.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:32 PM
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65. Now I realize she wanted no part of that right wing family.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 03:51 PM
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68. Her fiance was all hot and sweaty for
Sean Hannity. Not exactly what we "gals" are looking for in a mate.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:40 PM
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72. OMG another dupe--
Edited on Mon May-02-05 05:43 PM by marions ghost
:banghead:
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:40 PM
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73. Sorry delete dupe
Edited on Mon May-02-05 05:42 PM by marions ghost
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-02-05 05:41 PM
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74. I'm amazed at how many people
immediately wanted to put the guy on a pedistal and paint the woman as the villain, based on no facts at all. Talk about guilty before proven innocent. One thing's for sure the woman is disturbed. Whether she was driven to it or developed it on her own, we don't know. When people are deranged, they don't operate by sensible, normal, "mature" rules. Gosh, have you all never seen mental illness, sudden snaps, freak-outs? Yes, somebody SHOULD make some monetary restitution for the search, but that's different from bashing the woman.

I'm reminded of the witch trials--burn the witch, make her pay, she made us all PRAY for her, the selfish hussy!?! Instead of making the woman the target, how about making the media the target, for bashing the PUBLIC with this sad story, blowing it WAY out of all proportion?
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