What are Social Justice Programs?

[SouthernDem2004]

I was flipping channels when Talk Left was running a commerical and heard Janeane Garofalo mention them. Is she referring to programs to redistribute wealth?

and no, I do not normally listen to the Majority Report...

[Stephanie]

1. feed the poor, treat the sick, comfort the afflicted

opportunity for all - you know, like that

[renaissanceguy]

25. i.e. all the programs that the repugs want to cut.

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.21272015

[Mandate My Ass]

27. Egg Zactly -- Bush & the GOP the ultimate wealth redistributors

They comfort the comfortable and afflict the afflicted.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

2. Please explain what you mean by redistributing wealth

I don't consider a safety net, food stamps nor medical care for veterans as "redsitributing wealth"

[bryant69]

4. Good question.

Republicans like calling such programs wealth distribution because then they can slam even the most basic of safetynets as socialistic.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[SouthernDem2004]

5. Neither do I which is why I did not understand what she meant. Of course..

she has become our version of Dennis Miller in my opinion.

[Stephanie]

6. what are you talking about?

what exactly did she say? how on earth can you compare her to Dennis Miller?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

7. Was "redistributing wealth" your line or hers?

[SouthernDem2004]

8. Mine, it was the only thing I could think of... Welfare programs are not

justice programs so I have no idea what she was talking about. I do not see how feeding people is Justice.

[Stephanie]

9. I think you're being deliberately obtuse

You don't see that it is JUST to feed the hungry? Are you just yanking our chain here? Do me a favor and try google first next time. I won't be answering your questions in future.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&oi=defmore&q=define:justice

[SouthernDem2004]

11. I have no idea what you are talking about.

Feeding was just an example. I wdo not consider welfare programs to be social Justice Programs.

I tried Google for your information. Hey, no one made you post. I asked a legit question I do not know the answer to. I do not see how one is not obtuse when they do not know the answer to a question. Heck, just put me on ignore and avoid the drama of "I wont be answering your questions in the future."

[Stephanie]

14. since you don't know what social justice IS

I don't see how you can judge which programs are social justice programs and which are not. I think you have implied that Janeanse Garofolo said something she did not say. I think you did it deliberately.

[SouthernDem2004]

16. I NEVER CALLED THOSE PROGRAMS SOCIAL JUSTICE PROGRAMS.

Read my posts...

Clearly Bridget Burke's answer below is what I was looking for... Read my posts...

All I said was that she mentioned Soical Justice programs and I did not know what she meant. Read my posts....

Deliberatelly did what exactly? Did you read my posts?

Please read my post before passing judgements or telling me what I said when that is not what I said. I never implied Gorofolo said anything other then using the words "Social Justice Programs." Read my posts... I never said what Social Justice Programs are. Read my posts...

Why do you feel the need to attack me when you did not read all of my posts??????????????????????

[Stephanie]

17. " I wdo not consider welfare programs to be social Justice Programs."

that's your post

[SouthernDem2004]

19. Correct and I do not... Welfare Programs are Welfare Programs...

It is clear what Welfare Programs are... However it was not clear to me at the time what Justice Programs were... If you read the post by others below you will see what the difference is between the two.

Please read everything before feeling the need to attack me for some reason.

Peace.

[Stephanie]

21. I read everything, sweetie pie

I read it all.

[SouthernDem2004]

30. Well then, sugar...

Please put me on ignore.

[erichzann]

20. A society that does not take care of the "least" is not just.

Hence, I can't see how you could possibly not consider welfare program to be about social justice.

[Stephanie]

23. Welcome to DU, erichzann!

Good point.

[erichzann]

24. Thanks.

I can't believe I didn't make it here sooner.

[renaissanceguy]

26. That's because we live in a greedy society.

It's never about helping your neighbor, or doing good just for the sake of it. It's always "What can I get out of this? What's in it for ME?"


http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.21272015

[SouthernDem2004]

29. I do not consider a welfare program a justice program. I consider

it to be a different concept I guess. Welfare Programs are basic programs that should be a given. I equate Justice more along the lines or insuring peoples rights. and Yes, food and shelter are a basic right but I was not thinking along those lines. Thus the reason I posted the question.

[newyawker99]

31. Hi erichzann!!

Welcomet to DU!! :toast:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

10. I don't see how it isn't. So you feel that programs that favor the poorest

redistribute wealth?

[SouthernDem2004]

12. Please read all of my post in this thread. I clearly state the opposite.

[goodhue]

15. "I do not see how feeding people is Justice."

Perhaps this is the source of your confusion. Feeding hungry needy people is indeed social justice, as is housing and education.

In any event, here are some definitions of social justice to help you out. Also, I commend Utilitarianism by John Stuart Mills.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice

Social justice
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Social justice, sometimes called civil justice, is a concept largely based on various social contract theories. Most variations on the concept hold that as governments are instituted among populations for the benefit of members of those populations, those governments which fail to see to the welfare of their citizens are failing to uphold their part in the social contract and are, therefore, unjust. The concept usually includes, but is not limited to, upholding human rights; many variants also contain some statements concerning more equitable distributions of wealth and resources.

The term "social justice" is generally so phrased in order to distinguish this particular concept from concepts of justice in law — some of which, according to their critics, are decidedly unjust in a social sense — and from concepts of justice as embedded in systems of morality which may differ between cultures.

Social justice refers to the overall fairness of a society in its divisions of rewards and burdens.


http://www.aworldconnected.org/subcategory.php/80.html

Social Justice

From the journal First Things:

The term “social justice” was first used in 1840 by a Sicilian priest, Luigi Taparelli d’Azeglio, and given prominence by Antonio Rosmini–Serbati in La Costitutione Civile Secondo la Giustizia Sociale in 1848. John Stuart Mill gave this anthropomorphic approach to social questions almost canonical status for modern thinkers thirteen years later in Utilitarianism

From Arusha:
The belief in an equitable, compassionate world where difference is understood and valued, and where human dignity, the Earth, our ancestors and future generations are respected.

[SouthernDem2004]

18. I think in the context of the show she was referring to the definition

Bridget Burke posted. For some reason when I heard it the term just did not click. Thanks for the reply.

[Bridget Burke]

3. According the the Unitarian Universalists, they include....

A wide range of issues from civil liberties and gay rights to peace and racial justice

Effective congregational advocacy, organizing, education, service, and public witness.

Inclusiveness and diversity, multiculturalism, anti-racism and anti-oppression.

www.uua.org/programs/justice/

These topics are arranged in a way that's relevant to a church. It appears that the broad range of Social Justice Programs includes many that do not involve your precious tax dollar.

[SouthernDem2004]

13. Hmmm, that seems to make sense. Thanks.

[erichzann]

22. Here is your answer:

Social justice, sometimes called civil justice, is a concept largely based on various social contract theories. Most variations on the concept hold that as governments are instituted among populations for the benefit of members of those populations, those governments which fail to see to the welfare of their citizens are failing to uphold their part in the social contract and are, therefore, unjust. The concept usually includes, but is not limited to, upholding human rights; many variants also contain some statements concerning more equitable distributions of wealth and resources.

...

"Social Justice" is also one of the Four Pillars of the Green Party upheld by the worldwide green parties. As stated by several local branches, this is the principle that all persons are entitled to "basic human needs", regardless of "superficial differences such as economic disparity, class, gender, race, ethnicity, citizenship, religion, age, sexual orientation, disability, or health". This includes the eradication of poverty and illiteracy, the establishment of sound environmental policy, and equality of opportunity for healthy personal and social development.

Wikipedia for the win.

This is why she might refer to programs like accessible quality education, a living wage, social welfare programs, medical care and the like as programs of social justice. Welfare is a social justice program.

[SouthernDem2004]

28. Ah, that does clear things up. Thanks