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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:15 PM
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Sharon's claim of ME War in 2006 a big wedge to fix New York.
Same as the color coded terror warnings.. only this one terrifies (instills fear) in a portion of the New York voters (and some Floridians too). And once one group of Democrats is living in a much more fearful world..they are easier to create mistrust amongst Democrats and wedge.

New York State is the next piece of the Rove pie.

George W. Bush has been a long time fan of Sharon. This is a gift.

Works on several levels.

What a bunch of ***holes.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:34 PM
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1. Sharon's a pig...
but 9/11 didn't convert NY, and I doubt that this will either.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:36 PM
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2. I worry. Because I worry about people's thinking when they are fearful.
That is how the manipulation & flipping works. You create a huge amount of anxiety in people and they flip in order to lesson the huge emotional cost of the status quo.

Happened to me.
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New Dealer Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:53 PM
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3. Fuck Ariel Sharon
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:12 PM
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4. Link, please? nt
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 11:45 PM
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5. Here is link - unfortunately someone removed the whole page.
Perhaps it was a dupe. Don't know. The introduction stated that Sharon worried about a huge Mid East War in 2006 if the US left.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1412739&mesg_id=1412813
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 01:29 PM
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6. Thanks, I think it wound up in I/P. nt
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 01:34 PM
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7. As A NYer I Can Tell You 9/11 Made Us Hate Bush Even More
NY is more anti-Bush than ever. The more they try to scare us, the more we hate them. NYers are too damn saavy to fall for that shit. We get it, big time. We know exactly what those fuckers are up to. That's why in '06 NY will have a new Dem governor and our state legislature will be completely Dem. We don't use no Diebold bullshit in NY either and we don't put up with disenfranchisement. Just doesn't happen here on any large scale or people get their knee caps busted if you get my drift.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 02:56 PM
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8. I love NYers!! You guys are great. I will worry until I see the
relentless focus on all things (leaders) NY stop. Rove has admitted that this is the big prize. He is one bold little sociopath. Texas was a place that had an attitude too.

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 02:58 PM
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9. But what would happen if Guglianni ran? Or McCain? How would
NYers vote then. Because Bush is out. The prize and how it is packaged could be a whole new 'reality'.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:02 PM
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10. Trust Me, Giuliani Ain't All That Popular Here, For Real
Neither is McCain.

No way in hell NY would ever go any way except blue unless they somehow ram fraudulent elections down our throats, and trust me, with Elliot Spitzer as Governor (and he will be) that will never happen, not in a million years.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:45 PM
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13. I love Elliot Spitzer!!
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:05 PM
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11. I heard the NYS elections head honcho speak Monday
And the deadlocked legislature has not figured out how to get our lever machines to comply with HAVA and so the judiciary might have to decide how we come into compliance, and that could mean black box touch screens in NYS.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 03:17 PM
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12. We'd Fight It Tooth And Nail, But Also
If it's NYS judiciary, I think we have a good chance of getting a good ruling anyways...
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