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ragin_acadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 07:58 PM
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The economy is roaring right now,
and i am warming my hands in it's metaphorical glow.

Anyone who says otherwise is a liberal pinko commie, a member of the liberal media, or someone who doesn't realize that it is all Clinton's fault.



incidentally, i misplaced my medication today. has anyone seen it?
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:02 PM
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1. Time for another shot of Thorazine Mr. Acadian
:evilgrin:
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ragin_acadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:15 PM
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5. thank you,
i just realized i left it in the glove compartment of my second hummer, that i was using to tow my yacht to my other mansion in sandestin.

now i can't figure where my gardener and four mistresses told me to park it.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:05 PM
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2. I've been meaning to ask when the first net new job Bush's economy has
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 08:08 PM by EVDebs
created. During the 2004 campaign he'd yet to have created a single net new job. According to Northeastern Univ, IMMIGRANTS ACCOUNT FOR BULK OF LABOR FORCE GROWTH SINCE 2000 WHILE NATIVE-BORN WORKERS EXPERIENCE HEAVY DECLINES

http://www.nupr.neu.edu/01-04/immigration_jan.html

No wonder the border is insecure ! Also see Republican Paul Craig Robert's article :

Bush's Jobless Economy
by Paul Craig Roberts, CounterPunch, Feb 8, 2005
http://www.thinkingpeace.com/pages/arts2/arts377.html
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:15 PM
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4. But Bush says we don't want those jobs...
“It is time for an immigration policy that permits temporary guest workers to fill jobs Americans will not take, that rejects amnesty, that tells us who is entering and leaving our country and that closes the border to drug dealers and terrorists.” -G W Bush, Feb 2, 2005
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ragin_acadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:36 PM
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13. Now, now, be nice. Bush just want's to close the borders to drug dealers
and terrorists, so he can keep them in this country.

who's gonna be attorney general, HHS, and FDA, and sec. of agriculture if he runs for a third term?
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 09:50 AM
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24. What about us unemployed techies?
We wanted those jobs that went to H-1b "Guest Workers." We still want those jobs. No one counts us anymore, we aren't on unemployment anymore.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:11 PM
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3. or broke and nearing homelessness like my family n/t
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ragin_acadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:20 PM
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7. sorry,
i hadn't quite figured out where the satire button was on DU yet.

sorry to offend, but this bankruptcy bill, repeal of the estate tax, and continual misinformationadministration has been getting to me, and i thought this might generate a little humor.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:23 PM
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9. No harm no foul brother or sister
Just have to throw my rage to the wind occasionally to keep myself sane or remind me how messed up our country is. I apologize for bringing down a humorous thread.
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ragin_acadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:50 PM
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14. look at it this way. bush is the nightmare, right
before we wake up, and realize that it will be a wonderful day.

so, if you feel like you're covered in sweat, and can't get the morning taste out of your mouth, we've got one hell of a cup of coffee coming up in '06. after that, it will be smiles and sunshine. the weirdo's will all be raptured by the sky taxi, and we can all go back to givin' the high hard one to the person we love, because what we all think, might be a hill of beans to the world...but this is our hill, and these are our beans.

and just remember, Jane. Frank Drebin loves you.
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sheilajane Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:18 PM
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6. take a pill and read this.....
In Harper's mag.for this month April of 2005,an article written by Michael Hudson tells why Bush needs to raid social security. The stock market is in trouble and he needs the money from S.S. to prop up the market. There will be a big bubble and then a big bust. I have to read it again to get it all,but it is something to read. Hudson calls this the 4.7 trillion pyramid swindle.
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ragin_acadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:23 PM
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8. no. not raid,
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 08:25 PM by ragin_acadian
"personalize the account"

dontchoo know nuthin'?

on edit: thanks, i'll make a point to check Harpers.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:29 PM
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19. warm up with a Standard Schaefer interview
with Michael Hudson, here.

Duck, Duck, Goose: Financing the War, Financing the World
http://www.counterpunch.org/shaefer04232003.html

enlightening stuff.
dp

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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:29 PM
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11. Searching
under my bed, no money there, checked under the mattress no money there, looked in my garage no money, no SUV, and no boat there. Old Mother Hubbard went to the cupboard....well, forget that place, went to the closet, just found clothes tagged from the used clothing store. One more place, took a look into my checking account and savings, no money there.
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ragin_acadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:31 PM
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12. ah-ha! time to buy a metal detector, my friend.
you probably buried it in a mason jar in your back yard, just like i did!
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followthemoney Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:43 PM
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22. Read it - Privatize the National Debt - Great Plan to
push the increasing national debt onto the under 55 people. When the government defaults everybody will scream. When the market crashes people will have to admit there was no guarantee.

The market is overvalued today by historical measures. Wait till the boomers retire and money starts flowing out of the market. Only the new inflow from S.S. can maintain the bubble and only for the short term.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:26 PM
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10. Yea Baby!!! Robust is the word.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:57 PM
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20. A Row Bust economy
Guess that means weze up sheet creek.

Got my fingers crossed that a background check passes, Don't know what I'll do if it don't. The last round of finding a decent job took 10 months and tapped me out. The only work around here in tech is with the gubmint.

How is the gubmint able to not count people as unemployed when the unemployment insurance runs out? Those are the ones the news reports as people who stopped looking for a job. Anyone know what the real unemployment figure is?

-Hoot


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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:01 PM
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15. Time for a new stimulus package.
Do you remember that phrase? (Stimulus package.)

It seems to have fallen off the face of the earth. I guess them stimuli didn't take, so they decided to call 'em permanent tax cuts for the rich.

If only they invested in the common folk -- the people who ALWAYS spend money and ALWAYS stimulate the economy.

Oh well...Maybe if we get rid of that pesky death tax...
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ragin_acadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:09 PM
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17. well, if'n we get rid of that pesky death tax,
the rich can trickle down on the common folk.....when their prostates aren't bothering them.

good idea for a t-shirt: "got trickledown?"
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:14 AM
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25. Inheritance tax.
I thought the first $1 million was exempt. Yesterday I heard that the first $1.5 million is exempt. (The first $3 million for a married couple.)

I think it should stay that way. I don't think it should be eliminated completely as this administration wants.

That exemption should cover most small businesses and family farms. I can see no reason why people like Paris Hilton can go through her entire life and never pay taxes, yet if you win $50K in the lottery, you get hit with a big tax bill.

Don't let the opportunity to pay taxes be allowed only for the working class, let the ultra rich enjoy paying taxes, too.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:41 AM
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28. The only way out of this hole is to stop taxing labor
and start to tax Capital. PERIOD. What has the weed done? Shifted all tax from wealth to labor. Exactly wrong. Is it any wonder he has run every thing he has ever touched straight into the ground?
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ragin_acadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:08 PM
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31. i totally agree
FL (my current residence) is one of the top five in the US for regressive taxes.

we have a state sales tax, a very small intangibles, and no income tax. so that means, that citizen A that makes 12,000 a year, pays the exact same taxes (6 to 7%) on what he consumes as citizen B, who makes 12,000,000 a year, for their cost of living. Assuming that citizen A & B buy the same amount of pop-tarts, oil changes, and toby keith CD's, then it is safe to assume that citizen A is getting screwed six ways from sunday by paying the bulk of the state taxes (considering that 90% of Floridians are not millionaires) and anyone in the top 10% can enjoy the interstates, and other miscellaneous infrastructure while virtually having paid nothing to get it.

so following FL's example, progressive (not regressive) taxes such as the estate tax, are fair by allowing the top 10% to equally and proportionally contribute their portion of wealth to the nation.

the "death tax" description of the estate tax is just another focus group tested jingoism designed to get herd america to go along with it's dismantling.

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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:13 PM
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18. "Stimulus package"...talk dirty to me big boy (girl?)
:silly:
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 09:05 PM
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16. We've lost so much
as employees. When I got out of school (many years ago), I worked for a small chain of daily newspapers in the Midwest. I had comprehensive health insurance, including vision and dental. We received profit sharing. Employers valued their employees.
The workplace is different now. People are disposable. Benefits have dwindled. I'm thankful my two children were born when our health insurance covered all the costs. All. And what's happened in the last couple of years is truly frightening. Ny group of friends has turned, gasp, 50. And the "downsizing" began. My husband received exemplary reviews. And was then offered a relocation his company knew he would refuse. It was the method they used to cut older employees. Several friends met the same fate. Experience and loyalty have been weighed against smaller salaries with fewer benefits. And paying less won. How else to pay the CEOs their billions?
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:13 PM
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21. Well roaring is appropriate since people are being eaten alive financially
Finished a cross country road trip recently, expressly for the purpose of seeing what's going on 'on the ground' especially in the red states. I spoke with a lot of people. Let me tell you it isn't pretty. The difference from just a few years ago is surreal.

RTP
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 10:50 PM
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23. But, praise Jesus, gays can't get married!
And none of this would be happening if Clinton hadn't destroyed the country.
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ragin_acadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:22 PM
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32. where was your cross country trip?
from what i read, with all the corporations cutting white collar jobs across the country, it is quite different with other areas that have skilled workers getting laid off, with no job alternatives.

the point of my post was satirical, but right now i am living in an NW FL, which is a service based economy with no skilled workers, so the shoe fits.....for now.

when all the "plastic" wealth dries up, especially with the new bankrupty laws, i expect my area of FL to dry up like a july mudhole when all the atlanta/birmingham newrich can't afford to vacation here.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:15 AM
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26. Not a Roar So Much as a Muffled Whimper
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:17 AM
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27. "if you're rich"
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 10:52 AM
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29. I Think You Took ALL Of Your Medication
One pill at a time, ragin'. Taking the whole bobttle can cause severe psychotic episodes, as you're indicating now.
The Professor
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ragin_acadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 11:33 PM
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33. thanks for the advice.
momentary relapse. i ate a dozen paxil, and a whole bag of fortune cookies while watching fox news.
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suziedemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 04:56 PM
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30. Pink is my favorite color! n/t
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 10:11 AM
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34. Enjoyed your dry humor, ragin_acadian, post more like it. n/t
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