Why Don't We Just Sit Back and Do Nothing?

[JackD76]

Think about it. Right now, the president and the congress are going to do whatever they want, no matter what we think. Also, the more we argue with the people on the right, the more stubborn they are going to get. If we keep telling them that bush is an idiot and they are wrong, the harder it will for them to say we were right. So, why don't we just sit back and let them realize that bush is full of shit and that he is a horrible president?

[GetTheRightVote]

1. I do believe with the Terri S. situation that is actually happening

:kick:

[Lindacooks]

2. This is the dilemma that I think about a lot.

If we water down the Repuke's policies, it will take longer for the average person to realize how cruel and horrible they are. But, on the other hand, we'll prevent more suffering if we fight them tooth and nail.

[oxbow]

3. Change doesn't come from arguing

It requires changing people's hearts, changing souls. We have to show them that a better way is possible. We have to offer a clear alternate to what America is becoming. Criticizing things is only the first step towards progress.

[oxbow]

5. We need to stop trying to stop bad things from happening all the time...

...and begin making some good things happen. I for one am SO tired of being on the defensive all the time. It's time for some positive offensive action y'all.

[Al-CIAda]

9. Our 'leaders' are handed scandal after scoop on a silver platter

and they do NOTHING with it. Chickenshits.

[oxbow]

11. What should they do though?

They don't have the power to force Congressional investigations, and it's not even an election year. Better to just let the fascists dig their own graves and bury them in em in '06, I say.

[barb162]

13. it didn't happen in 00, 02, 04; why will it turn in 2006?

the fact is the country is shifting to the right

[oxbow]

14. Perhaps

The South and Mid-West are experiencing population booms greater than the 2 coasts right now. They will eventually become metropolis states though, and then liberalism will take root, as it does in most big cities. Think long-term I say: work for voting reform and peace and the environment and don't worry about the little battles too much.

[Selatius]

6. We, the people, are capable of doing this but what of our leaders?

Our leaders, in general, are poor representations of what we, the people, can truly rise to and accomplish. They are so corrupted by power and money it's sickening. This monstrosity of a federal government that tramples on its own citizens' rights and bombs nations into the Stone Age at the bidding of its corporate masters is not of the Enlightenment principles that this nation was founded upon.

I have grown to the point where I have little to no confidence in electing others to be doing things that we should and ought to have the power to do ourselves through education and organization. I fear the concentrated power of our government much like our Anti-Federalist forebearers. That kind of power corrupts souls. It is a danger, and I fear if we continue to let power become even more concentrated, we will rot away as a Republic from the inside-out like the Roman Republic.

[sandnsea]

4. Don't argue, advocate

Let their crises happen, don't argue, don't engage with their crazy making. That's how you break out of dysfunction.

BUT you keep living your life and advocating for what you think is right. You keep moving forward.

We have to stop engaging with these people, responding with anything at all. Simply, that's an interesting idea, I'm going to go to work to get us off fossil fuels and save ANWR.

[JackD76]

Sandnsea, Can't Tell if You Are Joking or not

but the idea going out and trying to fix the problems ourselves is great. Why sit here and bitch and moan about how things suck and take things into our own hands. If you see a problem, go help fix it. We act like the president is the only one with the power to change thing but we can do just as much is we try.

[JackD76]

7. Sandnsea, Can't Tell if You Are Joking or not

but the idea going out and trying to fix the problems ourselves is great. Why sit here and bitch and moan about how things suck and take things into our own hands. If you see a problem, go help fix it. We act like the president is the only one with the power to change thing but we can do just as much is we try.

[TahitiNut]

8. Well, that'd be good way to demonstrate impotence and uselessness.

The GOP (Ghoulish Obscene Perverts) are already establishing a one-party system. When both the 'pro' and 'con' are assumed to be on the right, liberalism won't ever again get to pose questions for public debate, let alone propose answers or frame the debate.


Democrats in both houses of Congress screwed up by voting "Yea" or "Nay" on this one. If there were ever a time to vote "Present" and say "this ain't the job we're elected for" ... that was it. It was an unconstitutional question.

[oxbow]

10. Let's just refocus on other issues

For instance, voting reform. With the conservatives splintering and liberals increasingly marginalized in the public debate, the time is right for major voting reforms from the ground level up. This is an issue that EVERYONE should be supporting, except those who are in power right now.

We need to get support for approval/instant runoff voting steamrolling ahead. Right now is a good time for it, as many are being alienated by the fascists in power. Im sure all those being screwed really do want a viable way to introduce a third party candidate into the game.

Why voting doesn't work and what you can do about it:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/10/12/13248/089

[Eric J in MN]

12. James Baker will serve on voting rights commission.

I blogged about it.

"The Bizarro World Version of a Panel to Improve Elections"

http://www.moveleft.com/moveleft_essay_2005_03_29_voting_rights_the_bizarro_world_version_of_a_panel_to_improve_elections.asp

[oxbow]

15. F*ck em

I don't know what their game is, but it seems like these people are more likely to make things worse than better. If voting reform is to happen, it must come from the ground up. Let every disillusioned conservative, liberal and independent know there is another way. Tell them about instant runoff voting. Use it in local meetings and elections, and show everyone that it works! This is a grassroots issue if there ever was one. The powers that be will try to ignore it and then squelch it, but they will finally have to give in if the public demands a viable democratic voting process.

[rfkrfk]

16. an impressive display of Senate leadership, Schiavo matter

nice to see Senate Dems hanging together, on this issue