The repukes are going to lose the Terry Schiavo case.

[bearfan454]

They cannot stand it when they don't get their way. They will lose on their Social Security rip off plan also. I love it when the repukes don't get their way. You know it just burns their asses good to be told NO !

[Dogmudgeon]

1. It's just a shame this is victimizing so many people

I refer to Michael Schiavo, Terri (of course), and the Schindlers. While I don't agree with the Schindlers' efforts, I sympathize with them, and hate that their grief is being used for a cheap political trick.

--p!

[bearfan454]

3. I feel bad for them too.

But I love the fact that the gop is being told NO !

[Nite Owl]

2. They can't blame it on

Congress or the prez either. The dissenting judge this am, Wilson, was a Clinton appointee too.

[napi21]

4. I agree. SCOTUS turned this down twice in the past.

I can't see them accepting it today!

I found it interesting that there was a gathering of Terri supporters outside the hospice this morning saying that if Jeb doesn't pull this off, they are going to hold him personally responsible for Terri's death! They really are a bunch of spoiled children, so used to getting their own way, they get vindictive when they don't!

[HockeyMom]

6. Spoiled Children?

Getting their own way, vindictive? Do those descriptions sound like anybody ELSE we know?

[jayctravis]

16. Good, if this brings him down and taints

any presidential ambitions.

[FreedomAngel82]

24. Oh good grief

They do sound like spoiled brats. I would hate to be in their grasps. Jeb better have some good security. I wonder if they'd blame W?

[femme.democratique]

25. Think about it, they used the judiciary branch to gain power....

...and now they're trying to destroy the judiciary. Evil.

[ohio_liberal]

5. I think they'll lose

but the bastards play it for all it's worth. Isn't FL supposed to be trying to pass new legislation today?

[bearfan454]

7. Yes they are.

Jebthro will still try and pull some kind of bullshit.

[UdoKier]

8. NOBODY wins the Schiavo case.

No matter how this goes, it's a tragedy, and I hate seeing anyone on either side of the aisle trying to make political hay of this.

YUCK.

[moggie]

9. But it it really a loss for them?

Haven't they known from the start that they'd "lose" this one? It energises their base without requiring them to do anything difficult, it distracts from other news, and they get to look saintly and caring while liberals look (to the nuts) like heartless murderers.

[jayctravis]

17. Sad as it is, it's a lost cause to begin with.

The Republics in this case have chosen a bad pony.

Terri Schiavo is going to die at some point. I suppose they could make political hay about how they TRIED for her.

It's a broken bone thrown to the Fundies, since George lied to them as well.

[googly]

27. Brilliant point! n/t

[Auntie Bush]

10. Just like it burned their asses when Clinton was ELECTED twice.

[LiberalEsto]

11. I think they know that, and don't care.

All they want is publicity and attention for grandstanding on this "pro-life" issue to shore up their fundie base.

[cmf]

12. I totally agree

They don't give a shit about Terri Schaivo. To them, she and her parents are just political pawns.

[FreedomAngel82]

26. Maybe it has

to do with the new judges he wants. Someone made a mention of that earlier. I could see that.

[Panda1]

13. No, they are winning...

...via 24/7 TV and Radio propaganda. There IS no other news.
Christianity has taken over the airwaves. Terri's life means nothing to them.

From today's DU front page:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/05/03/23_onslaught.html

They have captured all air time nationwide with one subject. It occluded the protests on the 2nd anniversary of the invasion of Iraq. It is still doing its propaganda job as they work feverishly behind our backs to complete the raping and pillaging of America.

This has nothing to do with poor Terri Schiavo, a pawn, but continued control over the masses via hysteria and fear. Hers is a lose-lose case with no happy outcome.
I agree with the eloquent argument offered in "The Onslaught", we Democrats need to become more coherent and focused.
We have a tough battle ahead but not an insurmountable one.
Let's label them right back.

Republicans:

Raw Deal Republicans
Cheap Labor Conservatives
Regressive Republicans (substitute NeoCons at will)

Blue NeoDem Progressives are on the move and we will not be stopped from getting the information out there. We'll have to go local for 2006 and win back some seats.

[ElectroPrincess]

19. Bull, this is one where you can't spin the hypocrisy ...

Let's just call it ... hum ... despite Fox's grand efforts, haggling over this is about as disgraceful as taking us into an illegal and immoral war. However, there's just no way to whitewash this.

I know alot of right wing libertarians (No God involved) who TOLERATE the Born Again Nut Cases because they support conservative fiscal issues. THIS issue may show the more sane Conservatives, just how bat-sh*t crazy those who they consider their Neo-Con brethren.

They will LOSE with many people, even if the media claims they won.

[Panda1]

22. Not Bull.

Famous Last Words.
Each time I think, "Surely, this is the one" the Mighty Wurlitzer manages to change not only the facts but mold public opinion.

You would think that the lack of WMDs would have been the "aha" moment....but they've got media and machines on their side.
Until we rectify those two dilemmas we still have a nation of sheeples being led around by Falwell/Moon/Terry.

Where did Gannon/Guckert go? The way of AWOL boy.
Where does EVERY crime they commit get recorded and blasted...only on the Internet and foreign papers.

I'm not saying the right-to-torture crowd will win in court. Public opinion, uninformed sheep, will still cling to the lies that they are spoon fed. Don't forget, most knuckleheads still believe that Saddam was personally responsible for 9/11. Why? Media spinnage ala Rover Blastfax.

I would love to share your enthusiasm and believe that this one can't be spun. But I've been proven wrong many times.

You sort of proved my point when you said:
They will LOSE with many people, even if the media claims they won.

Many people vs. the media. Hmmmm....let's see....who keeps winning?
They've occluded so many stories today alone with this shit. Iraq...major assault today just for starters.

The only thing missing is an enchephalitic embryo transplanted someplace inside poor Mrs. Schiavo to make this the dream case for the anti-choice people. Two souls to throw themselves prostrate over instead of one. Terri is a back door to the uterus.

The Neocons only kill the living.

[quiet.american]

14. Could be wrong, but again it seems they succeeded by framing, not facts

Aided by strong emotional performances by the human roach (Tom DeLay) and Dr. Frankenstein (Bill Frist), at this point, politically it matters not whether Ms. Schiavo survives.

If she survives it's a "victory for the culture of life."
If she doesn't, it's a "blow to the culture of life -- and the fault of the godless Democrats!"

Another poster in this thread made some suggestions for framing -- here's the biggest one I'd like to see, drop the word "conservatives" altogether. It still has a ring of sensible authority to it -- and that has NOTHING to do with the current folks running amok destroying our government.

Also, the term "religious right" is a misnomer if I've ever heard one.

For conservatives, consider "radical extremists."
(Actually, I really like "cheap labor conservatives," but personally use "cheap labor corporatists," "cheap labor fascists," or "corporate welfare-ists")

For religious right, consider "zealots" "fanatics" "religious fanatics" or American Taliban.

The only bright spot in this whole macabre, sordid, very, very sad Terri Schiavo situation is it looks like the American public, even the Kool-Aid drinkers, recognize the utter brazen lawlessness of what Bushco is trying to accomplish and reject it.

[jayctravis]

18. Republics.

If they're going to steal the "ic" from the Democratic party, they can have it in substitute for the "an"

[quiet.american]

21. :) n/t

[ElectroPrincess]

15. As DICK loves to quip - They will lose *B I G - T I M E*

http://www.caglecartoons.com/images/preview/{62AD57A1-2751-44A6-BD51-F0C5B55174AD}.gif

[Walt Starr]

20. My wife (an attorney) made a prediction

She expects teh SCOTUS to sit on this and not make a ruling at all until after Shiavo dies, at which point they will rule it is moot as the object of the case is no longer with us.

The courts generally bide their time on offering up constitutionality rulings in laws like this. Since the Congress has done this once, it will definitely do it again, and the SCOTUS will most likely wait for a broader law drawn up at the last moment to alter the outcome of a single case, then they'll smack down the congress.

[Mr_Spock]

23. Is this really a win-lose situation?

I mean they will lose politically I think either way but...

[googly]

28. Schiavo is a win-win for the repubs.....

They get the fundie, right wing christian votes no matter
what happens to Terri. If she dies from lack of food, you
will not see them shedding any tears. Yet, they will claim
to have tried to save a life.

If she gets the food tube re-connected, they can crow about
how they saved a life.

[Disturbed]

29. Rabid dogs feeding on a corpse.

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