I GIVE UP!!!

[Cleita]

This Terri Schiavo thing is the last straw. As much as I really didn't want to believe that people are getting stupid pills hidden in their food and water, I think now I have to wonder.

I don't consider myself extraordinarily smart, but I do understand that when someone is missing a brain that they aren't ever going to get better, or snap out of it, or respond to physical therapy, or be able ever to eat or drink anything ever again?

And what about that goon on Randi just now? Clinton lied? Oh for god's sake, like anyone who has been lied to as much as Bush has lied to him would be able to tell the difference between lies and the truth?

I really wonder if these people know how stupid they sound to the rest of the world. I'm ashamed to be an American anymore because of these stupid, flag waving freepers.

I GIVE UP!!!

[WindRavenX]

1. well, obviously *Someone* hasn't been praying hard enough...

...so Terri can grow her brain back :eyes:
It's tough Cleita, it's tough...I know...science is now seen as something evil and not to be bothered with.

[The Doctor.]

4. What if someone told all the fundies

that Terry could be saved if all stem-cell research was funded and pursued by havesting aborted fetuses?

[WindRavenX]

7. their heads would explode NT

[Medium Baby Jesus]

2. I feel your pain.

The immaturity level is astounding. Dying is ugly, painful and inevitable. I think some people think life goes on forever.

[tubbacheez]

3. Life does go on forever... on Clear Channel at least. n/t

[blondeatlast]

5. I sympathize, indeed, I do, but there is sanity left, and as long

as it exists, we have to have hope.

Most Americans on both sides of the political fence are disgusted at the politization of Ms. Schiavo's trauma, and they saw clean through the SocSec BS.

They are also turning against the Iraq invasion in droves.

It's hard to see, but the Left is winning. Just look at the lengths the RW is going to to take the focus off of them--and they are failing at it.

I understand your sentiment completely, though. But there is real hope. The tide is turning and rather quickly.

Hang in there--we'll manage through this, and we will all be better off for it.

[unhappycamper]

14. You are right -

these miserable bastards are throwing up the shit faster than ever & we are refuting it even faster.

The guy on the side has to be saying "WTF???" Even CON is going to notice the blowback. Just to make sure, send daily emails to those you know who may be on the fence. It's all about finding converts in Jesusland.

[Az]

6. Maybe we can convince them that she needs a donor brain

Put out the call for someone to donate their brain to Terri.

[moobu2]

11. OMG, if that was my last hope, please let me go n/t

[The Doctor.]

24. We should set up the website and see

how many volunteers we get.

[Old and In the Way]

33. Maybe George would volunteer to be the donor....

he doesn't seem to be using his.

[moobu2]

8. What I dont understand is

They said if Jeb Bush and the Florida legislature doesn't "save Terri", God will smite Florida with plagues and hurricanes and stuff....wouldn't it be easier if God just restored Terri's brain?

God works in mysterious way's

[Robeson]

12. Yes, one would think.

[onethatcares]

22. oh, shhitt, "bring it on" I say.

as if we ain't had enough of Jeb telling us how good the rebuild effort is since the last hurricane. Get these folks outa office.

[rzemanfl]

9. Some people have a clear understanding of American

government, witness these two posters to tbo.com:

Sabrina Simpson, Brookesville
3/22/05 12:05:12 PM
"I disagree with the judge's ruling. Who is he to say whether they have a substantial case or not? That is just the judge's own PERSONAL opinion. I feel Ms. Shiavo has the right to live."

Sharayah Noel Walleker, Webster
3/22/05 11:52:37 AM
"Why does a judge gets to decide if she lives? She didn't do a crime. All everyone wants is for her to live. She has gone without food or water for 4 days; that to me is making her pay for somthing she didn't do. If God wanted her to die she would have died 15 years ago."

cut and pasted from originals verbatim

[Robeson]

15. Wow.....

They're just a couple of lost causes...

[blondeatlast]

17. Yikes--if I keep hearing and reading tripe like that, I'm going

to be in Ms. Schiavo's shoes.

For the record--no feeding tubes after a month, please. Give me a chance, then give me peace.

[seabeyond]

10. walked into convenient store, had to put zip code to get gas

i wanted to know why. he told me for my safety. i told him the owner of these convenience store has never done anything for my safety, i wanted to know the real reason. older woman rolls eyes at me. two men just stand there. i go on to say government going so far to take away decision making ability for a spouse doesnt leave me too comfortable with this nations, lol lol lol. they couldnt get me out fo the store fast enough

i say whatever i want whenever i want, and i always get it into the abuses of the repugs today

[Goathead]

18. Actual converstion between me and my GF in check out line.

My Girlfriend: (Buying loads of Easter candy) "I wish somebody would send us an Easter basket. Gee, why doesn't anybody ever send us an Easter basket?"
Me: (with a big grin) It's probably because we don't believe in God"

I said it loud and everyone heard me. Check out girl didn't say anything and didn't make eye contact after that.

[Robeson]

27. I love it....

:thumbsup:

[seabeyond]

30. oh you are so funny

i do believe in god, souce, lite, whatever, just not in the biblical. but still, i would have turned and busted out laughing. i know. i say things like that, repugs say i am not a christian, unamerican, not a patriot..... with children. shame them

good for you

no staying quiet

you two are cute

[Tansy_Gold]

34. OT to seabeyond re zip codes

The real reason --- so the convenience store can get by with a lower percentage paid to the debit/credit card processor.

[seabeyond]

37. i know the owner of these stores, is it because

of stolen cards and using the zip assures that it is the card holder, or is there something more sinister? i knew it wasnt to help me out. knew the owner was getting something out of it.

[Cleita]

13. Oh no, now the Pope is involved.

They just said on the news that he says she should be kept on life support. I guess that's what they are doing with him. I really think he's running on batteries. (Just kidding.)

[Robeson]

21. Are you serious? This is what the Vatican is saying now?

Hell, he's being kept alive with tubes and wires, himself. I seriously doubt HE could coherently say anything...

[Cleita]

25. It was just on AAR news awhile ago. n/t

[Greylyn58]

35. That's kinda interesting

considering the gentleman from Texas that was on said his wife was in a "CATHOLIC HOSPITAL" and after just a short time--like a week I think--he's told they are pulling the plug on her. He objected and was told he didn't have a say in the decision.

The poor man wasn't even given the time to come to grips with his wife's condition.

Unbelievable!!

[HockeyMom]

16. Sad State of our Country

I was on a chat talking to some of these people. TRYING to explain a cerebral cortex and a cerebellum and what each part of the brain does. NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. HIGH SCHOOL BIOLOGY. I am not a medical professional. I had one woman say to me, "Please, explain it in Layman's terms". OMG. They teach, OR SHOULD, be teaching this to TEENAGERS.

You wonder why they have no CLUE?

[Cleita]

20. I thought the same thing. Don't they teach high school biology

anymore?

[Just Me]

19. The only thing that really pisses me off is the IRRESPONSIBLE media,...

,...giving way, WAY TOO MUCH space to these OBVIOUS (seriously maligned/delusional/controlling) EXTREMISTS.

These extremists must be better cornered, at minimum better exposed, as being from a small box (some call it "cult") which seeks to destroy anything and anyone outside their "box". They cannot be allowed to impede upon or diminish or burn everything that allows this country to flourish as a secular, democratic society. They MUST be contained as ALL extremists must be contained in order to protect the American values of "freedom", "equality", "justice" and "pursuit of happiness".

I do hold the corporate media responsible for sensationalizing extremists who are dividing and hurting our country.

[salinen]

23. Cleita

If the weather was better, I'd advise you to take a walk on the beach. After that you would feel much better as you kick in the teeth of some freepshit.

[Cleita]

29. LOL

Yeah, it hasn't stopped raining, but on the plus side everything is blooming and growing. It looks like we will have a lovely spring here. Too bad, you can't really enjoy it that much when you know your country is being flushed down the drain.

[Quakerfriend]

26. I know what you mean Cleita, however I happen to know

one of Terri's aunts. We worked together at The Institutes, outside of Philadelphia, where they work with brain injured individuals. In the past 50 years the Institute for the Achievement of Human Potential has had some astounding successes. Perhaps, the most extraordinary success story of note occurred when Joe Kennedy, Sr. arrived at the Institutes completely paralyzed from a stroke and left walking only a couple of days later. In any case I worked there for a short time and I have personally seen some of the children they have treated, from all corners of the world, get well.

Terri's family would like to have the chance to try this therapy with her. That is their main motivation for their daughter!

This I can understand.

What is so INTOLERABLE is the Bush families attempts to make political gain from her story. I think that this will come back to haunt them. It's just waking everyone up to the hypocrisy of this administration.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

31. Yes, but don't the people that are treated at this facility,

have a cerebral cortex to work with?

As posted above this is about basic human biology.

[Cleita]

32. If there was a chance, she should have it. Everyone should

but her brain has dissolved into spinal fluid. There is nothing there to bring around. If you are personally involved with someone in the family you should educate them about this so that the right thing is done, and right now this is to let her go.

[htuttle]

28. There's only one way to 'save' Terry Schaivo

Freeze her solid, and hope that one day science can figure out how to grow a new brain. Of course, it wouldn't really be 'her' anymore. She would probably be a blank slate, like a newborn.

Good thing, too. Who would want to suddenly wake up 60 million years from now after intelligent cockroaches find your cryochamber in a glacier and thaw you out?

[Quakerfriend]

36. OMG, that's too funny!

Do you remember that old movie where Dick Vandyke (?sp)is dead but, is propped up as a 'living' corpse in the back of the Cadillac convertible?

Sorry, the name escapes me.

Yes, I agree with all of you. Of course, without a cerebral cortex, there is VERY little hope. However, the loved ones often need to feel that they have done everything humanly possible to save their beloved. Sadly, I do understand this basic human response.

[lonestarnot]

38. Hate to scuttle you effort at a cryogenic freeze, but bushitler has

already put a wrench in that work with global warming!