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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:07 PM
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Whoopi Goldberg's new sitcom...Bush waiving at Stevie Wonder?
I guess this did happen but I did not see it on TV. Bush was attending a function at the Ford Theater and when Stevie Wonder got to the stage, Bush started waving to him (it happened in March of 2002, apparently).
She said he is really dumb: he even waived to Stevie Wonder!
I hope her new show survives.
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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:14 PM
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1. What Steveie wonder is Blind? No way!
Since the neo-cons told me he could see, I automaticaly beleived them!

I'm such a fool.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:16 PM
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2. Urban Legend
I think that's an urban legend, damn funny one tho!!!
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:17 PM
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3. actually
read about it (first hand response) in the Washington Post the day after the performance. It may be a legend - but it appears not to be a fake one ;-)
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:55 PM
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14. HA!
As they say "it's funny cause it's true!!" LOL. I stand corrected. :spank:
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:19 PM
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4. No it is true
I'm sure you could find the story if you wanted to check. But I remember it was reported and it did happen.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:48 PM
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13. I saw it.
Lots of us saw it. You can't MAKE that shit up.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:20 PM
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5. I'm sure snopes debunked it
oh yeah...snopes :eyes:
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ShimokitaJer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:32 PM
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6. Snopes didn't "debunk" so much as "defend" it
They list it as "false" but then go to great pains to show that he was actually quite justified in waving, since it was quite a small wave really, and it was probably just force of habit, and anyway that doesn't prove Bush is dumb, blah blah blah. They even found a way to mention Hillary, believe it or not. At any rate, how any of this adds up to "false: he didn't do it" is beyond me.

And to think I used to respect Snopes.

Here's the link:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/bushwave.htm
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:37 PM
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10. I still respect snopes
Because, face it, there are a lot of right wing emails going around that are full of lies. And Snopes is still good at debunking those.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:39 PM
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11. I read the Snopes piece ...Your analysis is perfect.
I totally agree.
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:47 PM
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12. If they can claim that Al Gore said that he invented the internet
We can certainly say that Bush waived to Stevie Wonder. Also, I find it hard to believe that Lloyde Grove waisted his time to find out if it was true.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 03:10 PM
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16. Snopes is biased, but not ravenously so
Most folks are (it's only human).
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 03:23 PM
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19. Either it's false or it isn't!
Edited on Fri Sep-12-03 03:25 PM by rocknation
From
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/bushwave.htm :

Was it true? Well, not really...the "wave" was both far less than initially made out to be and appears to have been directed at someone else...Ford's Theatre Artistic Director, who was seated by the President that night...didn't at all recall this incident...

Editors working on turning film of that event into a television special...went frame by frame through the video captured by...the (...camera trained on Bush...)...At the point where Wonder was getting settled behind his keyboard, Bush briefly raised his palm and smiled. The gesture was not the excited, enthused wave it is now comically portrayed to be...Moreover, the motion appears to have been directed at Kelsey Grammer, the emcee of the evening...


The director's reaction is the dead giveaway. Does he or she say "It didn't happen," or even "I didn't SEE it happen"? No, he or she DOESN'T REMEMBER if it happened! Snopes should have been all over that like flies on shit instead of making up roundabout alibis. This debunking is substandard and credibility-damaging. If the story could not be definitively declared as true or false, that's exactly what Snopes should have said.


rocknation



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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:34 PM
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7. Well, she'll have one viewer
and I am definitely not much the TV person anymore
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ShimokitaJer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:34 PM
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8. Top 11 reasons Bush waved to Stevie Wonder.
Courtesy of toostupidtobepresident.com

11. Seemed like a good time to try-out his sign language.

10. Force of habit: spent youth taunting disabled kids.

9. Just trying to raise the roof.

8. Forgot his name.

7. Daughters bet him a six pack he wouldn't do it.

6. Karl Rove getting cocky.

5. Minority-wooing programming supersedes disabled-sensitivity programming. Must write patch for version 2 of software.

4. Karen Hughes couldn't see who was on stage when she was transmitting to Bush's "hearing aid."

3. One word: Flashback

2. Sensed the attention of the room drifting to the stage.

1. "The Wave" doesn't start by itself.

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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:36 PM
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9. LOL
:D
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 03:02 PM
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15. You forgot some
12: Wanted to Know where he got those cool sunglasses.

13. Wanted to ask him if he was related to "Little Stevie Wonder."

14. Force of habit from flagging down guys with sunglasses to score some weed.

15. Wasn't a wave, was airing out hand from feeling up Laura during boring part of show. (Sorry)

16. He's blind too? Thought Ray Charles was only blind black singer!

17. Was the secret Skull and Bones sign to Kelsey Grammer.

18. Had to go to bathroom, used to having to raise hand to ask Unka Dick for permission.

19. Trying to order beer from concession guy.

20. Dan Quayle started it!

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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 03:32 PM
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21. Yuck, #15 made me throw
up my popcorn I just ate.
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 03:22 PM
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18. what is the name of this show & when is it on?
:hi:

also what channel?

Please advise.

Thanks! :)
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ShimokitaJer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 03:30 PM
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20. "Whoopi" Tuesdays 8-8:30pm ET NBC
'nuff said
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 03:41 PM
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22. thank you!!
I'll make sure I catch it on Tuesday 8-8:30 on NBC! :D
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 04:24 PM
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23. Another funny line: She screamed at the TV "It's NUCLEAR not nukular"...
during the news showing of a Bush clip.

I didn't watch the whole show but I can see it's good for our side. I'll be watching.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 07:23 PM
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24. Yeah, I forgot about that.
And have you noticed that many of the talking heads on TV now say nukular? Bush is even changing the language...
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