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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 06:49 AM
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Remembering the Social Democrats.....
Edited on Sun Mar-06-05 06:50 AM by Stop_the_War
When the Nazis first began to take power, there was one party that stood up against them --- The Social Democratic Party.

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/enabling.htm

On March 23, 1933, the newly elected members of the German Parliament (the Reichstag) met in the Kroll Opera House in Berlin to consider passing Hitler's Enabling Act. It was officially called the 'Law for Removing the Distress of the People and the Reich.' If passed, it would effectively mean the end of democracy in Germany and establish the legal dictatorship of Adolf Hitler.

The 'distress' had been secretly caused by the Nazis themselves in order to create a crisis atmosphere that would make the law seem necessary to restore order. On February 27, 1933, they had burned the Reichstag building, seat of the German government, causing panic and outrage. The Nazis successfully blamed the fire on the Communists and claimed it marked the beginning of a widespread uprising.

On the day of the vote, Nazi storm troopers gathered in a show of force around the opera house chanting, "Full powers - or else! We want the bill - or fire and murder!!" They also stood inside in the hallways, and even lined the aisles where the vote would take place, glaring menacingly at anyone who might oppose Hitler's will.

Just before the vote, Hitler made a speech to the Reichstag in which he pledged to use restraint.

"The government will make use of these powers only insofar as they are essential for carrying out vitally necessary measures...The number of cases in which an internal necessity exists for having recourse to such a law is in itself a limited one." - Hitler told the Reichstag.

He also promised an end to unemployment and pledged to promote peace with France, Great Britain and the Soviet Union. But in order to do all this, Hitler said, he first needed the Enabling Act.

A two thirds majority was needed, since the law would actually alter the German constitution. Hitler needed 31 non-Nazi votes to pass it. He got those votes from the Center Party after making a false promise to restore some basic rights already taken away by decree.

However, one man arose amid the overwhelming might. Otto Wells, leader of the Social Democrats stood up and spoke quietly to Hitler.

"We German Social Democrats pledge ourselves solemnly in this historic hour to the principles of humanity and justice, of freedom and socialism. No enabling act can give you power to destroy ideas which are eternal and indestructible."


This enraged Hitler and he jumped up to respond.

"You are no longer needed! - The star of Germany will rise and yours will sink! Your death knell has sounded!"

The vote was taken - 441 for, only 84, the Social Democrats, against. The Nazis leapt to their feet clapping, stamping and shouting, then broke into the Nazi anthem, the Hörst Wessel song.

They achieved what Hitler had wanted for years - to tear down the German Democratic Republic legally and end democracy, thus paving the way for a complete Nazi takeover of Germany.

From this day on, the Reichstag would be just a sounding board, a cheering section for Hitler's pronouncements.


We must be like that one Social Democrat Otto Wells. We must stand up against fascists and stop them from destroying our civil liberties.

Note: do you notice how the Enabling Act is kinda like the Patriot Act? And that the Reichstag Fire is the reason they passed the Enabling Act, and that Hitler was the one who burned the Reichstag, not the Communists he blamed it on. I think Bush was the one who destroyed the WTC, so he could pass his "Patriot Act".

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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 06:57 AM
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 07:00 AM
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2. We need the national party to take a good hard look at Minnesota's
version of the Democratic party. I like their approach of combining labor with farm interests and melding them both with a good solid solder of democratic philosophy. We need new labor and civil rights movements--we need a populist party with leaders who are in touch with their constituencies. PEOPLE vote, not corporations. We need to reclaim the people and the vote.
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 07:11 AM
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 07:19 AM
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4. Excellant thread.
After the Reichstag Fire, Hitler started a war against TERRORISM..
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 07:52 AM
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 08:47 AM
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 09:31 AM
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:20 AM
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8. Remeber the Dada Movement?
Edited on Sun Mar-06-05 10:20 AM by gorbal
Here is some info on George Grosz, a member of the Dada movement who was named "Cultural Bolshevist #1" by Hitler.

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/G/grosz.html

His art-

http://www.abcgallery.com/G/grosz/grosz.html

Who do you think Bush would consider "Cultural Bolshevist #1",? Any pointers on how I could make the list?
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:34 AM
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9. Frei Heil!
Frei Heil! Hail Freedom! The greeting of the SDP, which the Nazis perverted into their own greeting, Sieg Heil!
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:35 AM
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10. what does "sieg" mean anyway?
sorry I don't know German.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:38 AM
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11. Victory
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:50 AM
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13. self delete
Edited on Sun Mar-06-05 10:50 AM by Anarcho-Socialist
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 11:41 AM
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16. I guess it means "siege"! Meaning, "we win", meaning "victory"...
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 10:48 AM
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12. It's a very good point
I always dismayed at the way the German conservatives agreed to go into coalition government with Hitler originally and then agreed to vote German democracy out of existence - and for their troubles their party was banned. Ever since learning about German history I've never trusted conservatives because I have fears that they'll sell everyone else out to the fascists again and again.
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 11:05 AM
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 11:35 AM
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