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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:19 AM
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The mainstream news media guys are TERRIFIED about this Gannon thing
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:25 AM
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1. Olbermann seems to think we'll be hearing a lot more about it
On his blog, he hints that we haven't heard the whole story, and that it has the potential to be the "political scandal of the year." Here's hoping. :)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:29 AM
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4. Interesting
I hope this isn't another let down. I'll be looking out though for sure. Here's a :kick:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:27 AM
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47. OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH !
Go Keith!!!

I'd rather it were the scandal of the decade, but hey.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:33 PM
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54. Go Keith Go....
:loveya:

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silvermachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:28 PM
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59. One caveat...
Edited on Wed Feb-16-05 01:29 PM by silvermachine
...I'm hoping it breaks huge as well. However, I also noticed these remarks on Bloggermann, and the above mentioned entry was posted by Keith on Feb. 14 (Monday), which is when we were all waiting for the actual story from Aravosis to be published. So perhaps he was just waiting for John's article like the rest of us? Or maybe he knows even more facts about the scandal that are forthcoming? Sure hope so!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 10:51 PM
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81. Catherine Crier was on it, on Court TV, too. Asking all the good
questions, too.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1600445

So that makes two...

I think we have to "buckhead" this one until the "career professionals" are dragged kicking and screaming into covering it. Like, for example, WHERE is Michael "Monicagate" Isikoff at the moment?
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:28 AM
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2. I want to know if Dina Powell, wife of Michael Powell a GOPUSA board
member had anything to do with this. She is 31 and the Dir. of Personnel for BUsh /Rove.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:34 AM
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7. How interesting.
Small world.

:)

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low_phreaq Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:35 AM
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8. Do you mean Richard Powell?
Do you mean Richard Powell?

This may not be a connection. Check this out:

http://www.madison.com/post/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6208#6208

"These may be two different Richard Powells. Richard M. Powell's bio at GOPUSA says he is founder and president of JPX Interactive Technologies, Inc. A yellow pages listing shows a JPX INTERACTIVE TECHNOLOGIES at an address in Austin, TX. Travis County voter registration shows a RICHARD M POWELL at this same address with a birthdate in April 1965. The Texas Department of Health, Bureau of Vital Statistics shows a marriage between a POWELL, RICHARD C JR, age 31, and a HABIB, DINA O, age 25, in January 1998 in Travis County. (Habib is Dina's maiden name mentioned in the Washington Post article.) GOPUSA's Richard M. Powell would have been 32 years old at the time of the wedding. So there a difference in age, middle initial, and generational suffix. This all assumes the public records are correct."
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 02:17 AM
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20. What's going on with all the nepotism?
Every time I hear a story, somebody's wife or husband is also working for the Govt or K Street! I had a problem with Colon's kid heading the FCC, but I didn't know his wife was deeply entrenched with the GOP head hunters.

This isn't only the Pubs either! Daschel's wife works on K Street, and...I can't even remember the rest of them.

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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:36 AM
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48. It wasn't michaerl, it is Richard and "obviously" not related.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 07:55 AM
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35. Her husband is Richard Powell
not Michael.

Richard Powell also happens to be the Managing Director for an outfit called Quinn Gillespie and Associates, LLC.

Quinn, is Jack Quinn, who worked in the Clinton WH and was Gore's Chief of Staff. Gillespie, is none other than Ed Gillespie, who was the Chair of RNC during the 2004 Campaign.

Quinn Gillespie had key people from their firm working in both the Bush Campaign and the Kerry Campaign. Now do you understand what is really going on here?

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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:25 AM
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45. yes thats the one. Richard not Michael. Thank you.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:58 PM
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56. I have to correct myself
It looks like there may be a couple of Richard Powell's and the one from Quinn Gillespie may or may not be Dina's husband.

I no longer believe he is the same one as the one in Texas that is on the Board of Directors for GOPUSA and Gov Perry's adviser.

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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:13 PM
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57. Agree, not enough info to say with out a doubt.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:28 PM
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61. Thats what's crazy
Edited on Wed Feb-16-05 05:40 PM by DoYouEverWonder
for guys who were into building websites and 'interactive' technology, you would think their stuff would be all over the internet. Heck, Richard M. Powell was a policy adviser to the governor of Texas, yet hardly anything comes up on him.

I get more hits putting in my own real name.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:28 AM
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3. Nice.
Time to order cable.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:29 AM
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5. Woo hoo
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:31 AM
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6. What I don't understand is, how come they're all identifying with him
and not with us?!

Last month, we were invited to be honorary members of the Society of Professional Journalists. We went to this loft restaurant here in the city, and met with a small group of normal looking people. They sure didn't look like closet pornographers to me!
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 02:37 AM
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24. It says a lot about their usefulness
both to the propagandists and the general public. The MSM is going to fight the alternative press tooth and nail over any development.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 08:17 PM
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71. Perhaps a statement about how they have HO'd and avoid being exposed?
:shrug:

This Gannon guy is obviously freakin' scum,...and the big guys don't wanna' touch it,...yet jumped all over the Clinton sex scandal.

:shrug:

It's easier to attack/persecute those who are nearly spotless,...than those who are saturated in "SIN".

Meanwhile, if I see Lieberman's ugly mug one more time,...I'm gonna break something. That man has totally sold his soul for purposes of winning a freakin' "popularity" contest,...he has not a passionate bone in his body. UGH!!!
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 07:16 AM
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31. Maybe they should be followed.
Wonder what they do when they're off.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 08:13 AM
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37. These folks all looked like soccer moms and dads! lol
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 08:39 AM
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39. They sure didn't look like closet pornographers to me
You mean they weren't wearing their pink triangles? :shrug: Not a real bright statement if you ask me.
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KingoftheJungle Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:36 AM
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9. I'm gong to be dissapointed if out of all the scandals, this is "it"
Out of every scandalous thing this administration has done during its tenure (and the numerous scandals that led up to it), why does a gay prostitute have to be "the one" of the year? What the fuck is wrong with this country?


http://www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm
(shameless plug)
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:20 PM
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50. I agree...this has legs
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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:36 AM
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10. Beatifully said, as usual, Mr. Pitt
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:41 AM
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11. Blitzer and Kurtz's dog'n pony show last week had to raise the suspicions
of anyone who was even remotely interested. Wolf seemed to be asking Kurtz questions to which he already knew the answers. They came off like a couple of used car salesmen pitching a lemon to a rube.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:51 AM
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12. Lemons to a rube (ROFLMAO)
Hahahahahaha

These guys


Selling this


To this guy
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:56 AM
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14. A picture is worth a thousand words. Three are priceless.
:-)
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 02:03 AM
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16. Hasn't a lot of reaction been bizarre?
Edited on Wed Feb-16-05 02:10 AM by chookie
The story was out there. They invited "Gannon" to come on, and he lied about EVERYTHING. They never verified what he said. They were not skeptical.

They were selling the narrative that this good decent Main Street born again Christian man, whose ONLY crime was supporting the president, had been unfairly persecuted by nasty liberals, who wanted to destroy him because he loved freedom, Jesus, and golden retrievers.

Blitzer and Kurtz offered their "credibility" to this guy, and they cloaked his sins. They portrayed him as an innocent victim.

As it turns out, "Gannon" has been demonstrated to have misrepresented himself on their program, and to have lied about himself in order to conceal stuff, and has since been out to have been involved with some VERY dark and sordid stuff -- WHILE he was "DC Bureau Chief" for Talon.

You'd think they'd be pissed, but instead, in the pattern we have gotten used to in Bizarro World, they (choose A or B) A) ignore the fact they let this guy get away with lying because it shows them for the credulous idiots they are B) get into lockstep behind him in order to protect their careers by forever concealing this guy's lies and questionable actions. In the "Age of Accountability", deception and subterfuge rule.

The guy that people like Blitzer, Limbaugh, Hannity, Kurtz, Hume, portrayed as an American Hero, in fact, was leading a double life, and his day job, which **overlapped** his job as "Washington Bureau Chief" in time, was using hard core pornographic pictures of himself to solicit clients for rough domination sex. How anyone can stand with him now that all of this has come out, or be okay with it, is beyond me.

All these guys have been jackasses for lending him their coats to cloak his sins. And you BET they're scared people are going to find out. So they will do all they can to kill this story. Ever hear the phrase, "thick as thieves"? They are in conspiracy to soft peddle this story in order not to be outed as idiots, or, worse yet, ideologically driven idiots.

CBS erred in letting the TANG memo pass their critical scrutiny-- but WHY is it okay for Blitzer and Kurtz to totally fuck up the "Gannon" story? WHY is it okay for a guy who works as a prostitute to join the WH press corps? Or do we have to ask?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 02:12 AM
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18. It's up to the bloggers to keep the story alive. And we will.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 03:04 AM
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28. best post of the night
homepage material
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:26 AM
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Chookie had another great analysis that should have been on Homepage
but two votes wouldn't take it there. This is another one that belongs on Homepage...Maybe if you guys get behind it...guys & gals, that is. :-)'s

The coverup by the White House Press and Kurtz and Blitzer is a huge part of this story. Why did they work so hard to get "out in front" of it. And....what about Blitzer. He came into stardom at CNN when he was a Pentagon Correspondent during the Gulf War I. He has to be thick with
Rummy and Cheney and the PNAC crowd. Was there "payoff" there?

And, we know that Howie is covering for his Repug GOPUSA affiliated wife Sherri Annis who was quoted on Talon News site many times. (A Google search under her name shows her comments on Talon). So, Howie has the wifey angle, but what's Blitzers? :shrug:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 07:43 AM
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34. It makes you wonder if all of 'em are "on the take." nt
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 09:29 AM
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41. Esp.
when it seems to me - the MSM was acting like it was a "good" thing when the right wing bloggers supposedly uncovered the Rather thing.

Now with this and it's all clear cut and they want to act like the *problem* is the left-wing bloggers instead of Gannon/Guckert. :eyes:

What nonsense.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 09:26 PM
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75. It was over ten years ago that I started believing they were receiving
attractive perks to shill and lie in such an un-American way.
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 06:26 PM
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63. grateful for this one!
All I can do this week is pound the desk and screech.

You gave words to the disgust and frustration.

Thanks, I needed that.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 09:24 PM
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74. Did they really say WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF FOR TALON NEWS?
His title is priceless.

Getting set up is pricelss.

$50.00 for the Karl Rove degree program, big time Texas backers, articles written for you, questions handed to you. Then, he found someone to buy his suits and ties and hand him a pass.

Whooooeee! He can write a how-to book.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 10:47 PM
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78. Correct
Here's a reference (from a letter by Niagara Falls reporter to Rep Slaughter)
"In his biography at the Talon News site, where he holds the title of “Washington Bureau Chief,” he claims to be a graduate of the “Pennsylvania State University System” and the Leadership Institute Broadcast School of Journalism. "
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=48
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:01 AM
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84. His title as posted on jeffgannon.com
"Jeff Gannon, Washington Bureau Chief and White House correspondent for Talon News and syndicated columnist 
brings you an inside perspective on the news."

from jeffgannon.com via the wayback machine.


 
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:53 AM
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13. Mike Malloy suggested that the little DC press subculture
might be a lot like any other in society, especially predominately male (or female) groupings - with a goodly share of sub rosa goings on. Thus some concern about potential outings or, say, blowback. Especially if they worry that GuickerGannon might have been a Rove plant in their midst. The only way they can dispel suspicion that members of the WH press was somehow involved would be to do an expose, but that risks a Rovian attack. That choice depends in part on how much of a threat they see in the two options.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 07:19 AM
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32. the elite have rituals that would "shock us" --- look at Bohemia Grove
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 06:32 PM
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65. did you ever watch eyes wide shut stanley kubrick..??
it was about the illuninati!! take a stroll on goggle and look up illuninati!!

its what that movie was all about..the worlds most elite!!

fly
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 03:03 AM
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86. Missed that, but enjoyed the "Illuminati Trilogy"
by Robert Anton Wilson. A great study of how a delusional worldview can explain and/or justify everything. And have several corroborative facts or allegations to point at when needed. There can be no doubt that the Cons now in control of the US state apparatus are a case in point.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:57 AM
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15. Kurtz goes down... in six fortnights
It takes that long to hit fury.

We could knock him down in one, but, we have to build against the beating of the drums.

Kurtz, dear, you know you're next - correct? :evilgrin:
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 02:46 AM
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26. I did my part!
[email protected]

Dear Ombusdman,

Hey - I think something is wrong with Howard Kurtz. I swear to God that yesterday when he was talking to Wolf Blitzer about that reporter Gannon - he looked like he was going to wet his pants or something. Is he OK?

I wish that Kurtz had felt well enough to talk about the fact that Talon News Service was started and 6 days after that Gannon got into the White House press briefings!! Then this Gannon fellow got secret CIA memos that he was trotting around when he interviewed Joe Wilson. Now that is a story!! Don't you want to know what that is all about?

Maybe Kurtz should be relieved of his duties until he feels better and until a lot of his household income does not come from his wife's efforts on behalf of the Republican party. Ya think??
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 01:22 PM
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58. Here's mine:
Dear Sir:
I'm very concerned with Howard Kurtz's self-preserving opinion piece on the Jeff Gannon/Guckert outting by bloggers.

First, there should be no debate on whether bloggers went "too far" in outting Gannon/Guckert. The fact that this non-professional "journalist" who was gaining access to the people's White House after having only been a part of a six-day-old conservative news website for a few days is troubling enough. That he has a shady past, was able to get away with receiving the daily press passes for nearly two years after giving a phony name and asked
the most inane questions of George W. Bush and Scott McClelland should have caused Kurtz to real back in horror - not bash the people doing the job he, and other reporters, should be doing over the head. Or maybe that is, indeed, the problem.

While a third the media is seemingly under indictment for protecting
criminals who outed a CIA agent and another third are being paid by the Bush Administration to shill stories, the final third are frolicking with the stars at the Micahel Jackson trial. None are reporting news that citizens need to know to make informed decisions about voting, about the soundness of bills proposed by the president and Congress and about things that effect their lives. I'm somehow doubting that Jackson's guilt of innocence will be reflected in my wallet or my son's future.

Kurtz has so totally missed the point of the Gannon/Guckert outing that it boggles my mind and the minds of others who are hearing about this story from their e-mail boxes and not from their nightly news.

The point is that a prostitute was in the White House - a very sexually conservative White House - asking questions of the most powerful people in this country and shilling Republican policy for a rightwing "news" website on national television. And that this prostitute may have had intelligence information shared with him is revolting.

If the news media and/or the White House Press Office had been doing their jobs and questioned this "journalist" about his credentials years ago, maybe it wouldn't have gotten to this point.

Instead, most of the chattering class are now defending him as though he was one of their own.

I was a reporter for 12 years and when a fellow reporter was indicted for murder, I got a good story from him since I knew him, but I still reported his charges, trial and conviction. It was my job.

There is no "run-away" blogging out there - only attempts by the people of this country, who once were indebted to the profession of journalism for their information, to dig under the entertainment muck the media presents as news to find out real information about real events without all the real spin.

We know that Howard Kurtz's wife works for the Republican party in some capacity - but we should only know that because it's in her profile, not because it's in his writing.

As media critic, perhaps it's time for Kurtz to get out of the Washington Beltway, head on over to the Heartland and see for himself why the media has become the substitute word for "whore," and that was before Gannon/Guckert incident.

Sincerely,
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #58
60. that's good! n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 02:08 AM
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17. "Tonya" not Tanya.
Cheers :)
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 02:42 AM
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25. Also...
"The Gannon story has made it's first mainstream print media breakthrough:"

"Its," not "it's." :D

Like someone above said, "What is wrong with this country?" If the sex part of this scandal sells it to the public, why is this THE scandal? You would think that lying us into war and getting people killed would be a bigger deal. America is hung up on other people's sex lives.

Granted, there are other elements to the story, but I don't think anyone died because of this particular scandal. And this is the one that might bring down the weed? Incredible.

Oh well, let's take what we can get. Maybe it's even worse than what we've seen so far.
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pamela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 02:14 AM
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19. They should be terrified.
I have absolutely no sympathy for any of the media whores. The only difference between any one of them and Guckert is that we were able to establish his price. They've been using sleezy journalistic practices for years now, and haven't cared when innocent people were smeared by their lies and innuendoes. We should target a different one of them each week and keep digging until we find the dirt. Hell, if I had a blog, I'd name it Hoover.

Some people are saying that Judy Woodward and Wolf Blitzer are having an affair.

My sources are telling me that Sean Hannity hired Gannon as a prostitute several times.

Up next... Is Matt Lauer still beating his wife?

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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 02:26 AM
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22. That is exactly the point!
Their own standards are now being abundantly used and for free. They are terrified the bloggers are using them to outstanding success. Will has it exactly right. The real question the mainstream media - media cartel is asking is: how do we stop this run away blogging freight train? The media is :scared:



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pamela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 03:13 AM
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29. The saddest part ...
Edited on Wed Feb-16-05 03:23 AM by pamela
is that most of the more well-known bloggers have actually been using higher standards of research and verification then the MSMwhores. The examples I used in my earlier post are the types of tactics MSMwhores use regularly these days. They put a story out based on rumor and conjecture and if it turns out not to be true, well, sorry. In the meantime some poor slob's life is ruined, a marriage breaks up or an honorable man loses an election to a lying coward. C'est La Vie.

I don't think the MSMwhores are really worried that bloggers will use their dirty tactics. I think what scares the shit out of them is that they used to be able to use these tactics with impunity and now they are facing the virtual version of a million people throwing open their windows and screaming "WE'RE MAD AS HELL AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!"
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TXDemGal Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 04:20 AM
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30. "My sources are telling me that Sean Hannity hired Gannon as a prostitute"
Oh, please, let the substance of that rumor be TRUE! That on top of O'Lielly's felafel fetish will be icing on the Fux Snooze cake. }(
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 02:18 AM
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21. Big mistake
extending their circle to include that no-account fraud. They should've disowned him from the git instead of taking the "sleaze and slime is our bailiwick, no fair turning it on us" tack. Oh, well.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 02:29 AM
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23. Just did a search on CNN.com - Only story is from 2/10/05 - WTF?
This is truly incredible....they are terrified.....

Why????

What do you think is going on Will? Is there stuff going on behind the scenes that is going to explode and come out in scathing details? Or do you think that more people in the "so-called media" are also involved (maybe not in prostitution/escort service) somehow in being political shills and plants?

This is too weird...I forwarded the Salon story and other things to people and no one had heard of this story and were upset that they weren't hearing anything....

Nothing in the SF Chronicle today either....and seemingly a lot of silence from the Dems too....
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 10:48 PM
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80. *
"A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words." - John Lennon
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:56 AM
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85. How True - or how about: "The Silence is Deafening"....
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 02:47 AM
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27. When you catch one cockroach, you know there are hundreds in hiding
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 03:31 AM
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87. Then we'd better call Orkin SOON!
n/t
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 08:12 AM
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36. It has been said....
that Rove and Gannon are lovers. Who has said this? Sorry, I cannot reveal my sources. hahahaha
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 07:37 PM
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67. Were Rove and Gannon debriefing each other?
:-)
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 08:32 AM
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38. Expose the network, and the 'MSM" will be exposed as well. -eom
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 09:05 AM
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40. True Mr. Pitt, but not everything will shake 'em up
Edited on Wed Feb-16-05 09:07 AM by bigtree

you've got to find some major hypocricy that will embarrass and shame 'em. Conservatives are always good for the sex scandal, with their lectures on morality and all. I do worry about the retaliatory backlash though. We might see an outing on all sides of the fence: "see, they do it too" kinda stuff involving all types of 'reporters', pundits and the like. Not looking foward to that.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 09:32 AM
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42. Coming this summer
Edited on Wed Feb-16-05 09:33 AM by DemonFighterLives
The undercard:
Tonya Harding - VS - Jeffy Gannon

Then: All they wanted is a Mandate(date with Jeffy)
This catfight will surely grab you by the boo- boo :drumroll:
Wolfieman - vs - Howieman

These two shills will provide one hell of a show.

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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:00 AM
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43. kick
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:13 AM
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44. Kurtz and Blitzer give Gannon-whore professional courtesy.
Surprise!?

--IMM
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:26 AM
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46. I noticed that too? WTF?
:crazy:
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:56 AM
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49. no doubt
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:22 PM
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51. ‘Liberal’ Media Silent About Guckert Saga
http://www.observer.com/pages/conason.asp


Conason says it best:

Imagine the media explosion if a male escort had been discovered operating as a correspondent in the Clinton White House. Imagine that he was paid by an outfit owned by Arkansas Democrats and had been trained in journalism by James Carville. Imagine that this gentleman had been cultivated and called upon by Mike McCurry or Joe Lockhart—or by President Clinton himself. Imagine that this "journalist" had smeared a Republican Presidential candidate and had previously claimed access to classified documents in a national-security scandal.

Then imagine the constant screaming on radio, on television, on Capitol Hill, in the Washington press corps—and listen to the placid mumbling of the "liberal" media now.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:49 PM
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55. If the scenario Conason described
Edited on Wed Feb-16-05 01:03 PM by LibDemAlways
had happened, Rush would have gotten so worked up, he'd have had a stroke on the air. The carpet in the House and Senate would be well worn from the parade of members of both parties willing to denounce the WH from the podium.

Where's the outrage? Haven't seen a single Dem speaking out about this. Wouldn't expect any repukes given what hypocritical assholes they are, but you'd think somebody from an especially red, Bible-toting area would be a little upset a gay hooker was allowed access to the chimp.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 08:00 PM
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68. Maybe we need to pretend to be Christian conservatives worried
about the chimperor's safety?

We could write to media and Congress pretending to be repukes and could demand to know who let the gay prostitute near our great ruler!

I actually comtemplated doing this earlier today lol

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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 10:59 PM
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82. the two senators from OK come to mind
rick Santorun, too
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:53 PM
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88. And Jim DeMint from SC
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MoJoWorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 06:30 PM
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64. Great Conason piece--thanks to him and you!
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:27 PM
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52. The big story here is
that this is not yet a big story in the corporate media. Why not? It has sex and connections to the WH. It should be saturation coverage by now.

I have a friend who works for CBS who assures me the network has no political agenda. He says the execs are only concerned about ratings and the bottom line. This story is proof positive that my friend is spouting bullshit. Someone high up in the BFEE has ordered this story buried, and the whores are either fully complying or spinning it in such a way as to make the "liberal bloggers" the villains.

When a male prostitute with no journalistic credentials is given access to the WH press room and the media doesn't jump all over the story, the rotting corpse of the "free" press has finally been put to rest.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 12:27 PM
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53. Editors not doing their jobs leads to others doing it for them
hence the power of the blogs.

Truth is the goal and how you
get there isn't the point.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 05:31 PM
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62. I'm not going to get my hopes up for this turning into a scandal. There
have been so many and the MSM continues to blow the Republican Party.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 07:34 PM
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66. Hannity distances self from Free Republic... right on schedule
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x2644995

Hannity is a mouthpiece. We can watch him for clues as to what the right wingers who currently assert a controlling influence over the MSM are thinking. Already he is working to try and "discredit" blogs and websites.

Shh! Nobody tell him that it's pointless! ;)

(See also Plaid Adder's Ethos/Blogos post.)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 08:07 PM
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69. This one's big!
Who was GanGuck writing for before Talon, cause he was at a press briefing before they existed!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3125761
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 08:10 PM
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70. WEENIES!! Are they really afraid their skeletons are bigger than others?
Edited on Wed Feb-16-05 08:12 PM by Just Me
Frankly,...I see a LOT of freakin' chickens, NO PATRIOTS, NO FREEDOM-FIGHTERS, NO PRINCIPLE ADVOCATES, NO MORAL/ETHICAL DEMONSTRATION,...just a bunch of selfish, self-centered, chickenshits who don't really give a damn about their own worth in character and certainly do NOT GIVE A RAT'S ASS about the people they are supposed to owe a duty.

I am angry. I say, "fuck them",...I hope they burn in hell or contract a horrible disease or get precisely what they deserve as the false representatives of greater truths which touch all those they impact.

Fuck them!!!
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 08:53 PM
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72. Well said. I feel better now. Thanks Just Me
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 09:13 PM
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73. Seems Gozer is having a harder time finding minions nowadays...


Oh Zully, you nut....
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 09:29 PM
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76. Hey Will, didja see this cartoon about this VERY TOPIC?


Looks like the main stream media's "ivory tower" is being invaded and they don't quite know what to do!

Props to Oliphant on the 'toon.

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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 09:55 PM
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77. Very nice Will...
>>>He was cut from the herd and dismantled, and the bloggers played the role of cheetah<<<

This gave me a strange (and somewhat scary) thrill. I WANT them to be in mortal terror. Accountability is long overdue. I am tired of being seen as a pawn. I think, i cry, i laugh, i bleed, i love and i FIGHT when myself and my loved ones are in danger. They gave us no choice but to fight as viciously as they have been. As they are separated and brought down, one by one, i WANT them to know that THEY MADE THE RULES.

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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 10:48 PM
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79. Mangate makes the WH press corps look like absolute morons.
That's one reason they're pretending it didn't happen. Here they are, sitting right next to the guy for almost two years, listening to him ask these preposterous questions, and none of them ever thinks to check him out? It takes bloggers--amatuer web-detectives!!??--to figure out not only that he's undeniably a plant, but a plant with a sordid past? And they still don't get it, apparently. Who let Guckert into the White House day after day? Who made the decision to give this guy a pass--not just once, but day after day for two years? That's question one, and nobody in the WH press corps is asking it. Because if they do, they're admitting how completely useless they are.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-05 11:40 PM
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83. They sure would be all over this if this was Clinton n/t
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