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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 11:49 AM
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? Why is Tsunami aid included in Iraq/Afgan $82,000,000,000 request?
I don't get it. Why would you stuff the aid for Tsunami victims in the Iraq 82 BILLION DOLLAR request?
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 11:50 AM
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1. It makes it harder to say no.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 11:53 AM
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4. And to keep it out of the Budget
n/t
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 12:01 PM
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8. Exactly
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 11:50 AM
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2. To try and trick us..
If we vote no they will try to say we voted no to tsunami aid. which is total bullshit.
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veteran_for_peace Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 11:50 AM
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3. So that Democrats won't vote against it.
Or the administration will say that they don't want to help those people who were hurt by the Tsunami.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 11:53 AM
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5. Because Republicans are Liars, and they want to Demonize
the Democrats if they do not pass the bill.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 11:56 AM
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6. "Democratic candidate ________ voted AGAINST tsunami aid!"
Remember: "John Kerry voted against supporting our troops!"

Allows half-truths to later be told by liars.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 12:01 PM
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7. All of the above, but also a more dishonest reason
Naturally, the Republicans want to stick it to us. They have been doing it for years, drafting terrible shit into otherwise decent legislation. That way they can say "The Democrats voted against _____".

But there is another reason that I haven't seen listed yet.

By including Tsunami aide, Bush can pretend that this is "emergency spending". That way, he doesn't have to put it in his budget.
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Wonco_the_Sane Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 12:24 PM
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9. dunno
I think (illegal) Iraq War spending counts as "emergency" spending too. No?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 12:30 PM
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10. Probably, but this shuts up anyone who dares protest
Because, this way conservatives can just say "So you don't support helping Tsunami victims?"
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Wonco_the_Sane Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 12:35 PM
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11. No doubt
I agree with the points made above. Sorry if I was getting picky about your point there.

Typical pug strateegery. Like mis-naming other proposals. (see: no child left behind, patriot act, clear skies etc etc...)
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 12:35 PM
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12. To give pro-war Democrats cover to vote for it.
Which they will.
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