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Sliverofhope Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:14 AM
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Not even the pros can't figure out why the fascists passed HR 418
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 01:24 AM by Sliverofhope
http://www.prospect.org/weblog/archives/2005/02/index.html#005461

MORE ON THE WAIVER. What Jesse Lee says is largely true; I'm hearing pretty much the same things from House sources. The "amazing gun vote" is truly amazing. I've been looking more at Section 102, the "all laws" provision for which the House aides I've talked to seem to have nothing but hatred. As one said: "They basically get to do anything with this waiver. They don’t need to go through any kind of federal regulation at all, anywhere along the border."

<snip>

All the things Blumenauer mentions are genuine possibilities with regard to Smuggler's Gulch; part of the project really does go through a Native American burial ground. Not only that, but according to the Congressional Research Service the provision really does apply to all border areas, and not just Al Capone's old boot-legging route. (I should note here that there are theoretically limits (pdf) on what Congress can waive and pull out of any court's jurisdiction; calling this the "murder at will" provision is probably constitutionally a stretch, but the question is open enough that that's a fair moniker.)

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I’d have to say that that really baffled us. Just trying to imagine what could possibly be the reason -- there’s got to be a reason here other than the border fence. They’re trying to set a precedent here. … The reason for this coming to Congress is much larger than 3 miles in San Diego. … It’s just inconceivable that we’re using all of this might for these three miles.
If bloggers are getting all hyperbolic and tin-hatted on this one, it's only because the pros are too.

--Jeffrey Dubner
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:17 AM
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:22 AM
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2. This fascist legistlation has snuck through the House
Hopefully it will not sneak through the Senate. It seems to me that the same reason the Patriot Acts 1 & 2 got passed is at work here. None wants to be seen as not supporting anti-terrorist legistlation even at the fall of liberty!
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:25 AM
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3. It will...
As a rider on another bill.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:39 AM
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7. Do you know something...
or speculating?

Do you know what we need to look out for?

Are you related to rawstory.com?
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:28 AM
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4. Uh -- I haven't seen anyone ask THIS question yet
but a border/wall/fence goes two ways. This isn't a way to keep somebody -- say, well, us -- IN, is it???
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 05:03 AM
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10. I've been thinking it is... I'vre been expecting it. Get out while you
can I've been saying. Comparable states like Nazi Germany and the USSR have done everything to keep their people in.

First no-fly lists. Now try get on a train...

But also it's probably a precedent.

--------------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 05:13 AM
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11. TRAIN?!? No fucking way!
Might end up at Dachau II, somewhere up North in the hinterlands.:scared:

Naw, I'd rather stand and fight for my home and local community than just flee. I was living in Brasil, but came home just to vote and protest (for peace) because if we don't defeat the fascists here, then NOBODY is safe on Earth... then again, Rio de Janeiro é a cidade maravilhosa! Eu vou vivir lá um dia. :)
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 05:21 AM
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12. *sigh* I fear for all of us. That HR 418 combined with PATRIOT I + II
is just terrible - imagine reading about an other country getting these laws; NEVER would anybody believe them to be harmless...

I still think that you are in danger and should get out - but I admire you for coming home and wanting to put up a fight!


:bounce: :toast:

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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:34 AM
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5. I don't know, I think it could just be Stupid House Staff...
...writing stupid stuff. They said on NPR that the Senate is going to propose a whole bunch of different crap, if the ever are forced to debate it at all.

They said, the Senate is NOT planing to debate or vote on The Bill, but, The House is planning to FORCE a Debate and Vote in the Senate, by attaching it to a spending bill. :crazy:
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:36 AM
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6. They want to keep us all from escaping?
before they build the gulags...
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:42 AM
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8. Here's some more on HR 418
I posted this a little earlier... It's an important bill, need to know about it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3090280&mesg_id=3090280


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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 04:03 AM
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9. Americans
Are in debt to thier eyeballs(most of them).So because they owe a deal will be made with the rich creeps that rule,for profits,to make Americans work in work camps to pay off the deficit Bush made,if we don't work we are'traitors' selling our homeland to foriegn owners,china ect... If we don't 'sacrifice' and if we attempt to not'work it off' we can't run for the border.
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:41 AM
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13. To establish a precedent for other exemptions in the name of security?
Let's play think about other laws or constitutional provisions which might interfere with the Bush vision of Homeland Security.

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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 01:18 PM
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14. They passed it? Oh no.
Earlier I had posted a general contact page for Air America; does anyone know a better way to get in touch with the show hosts and let them know?

-wildflower
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:05 PM
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15. Here's the text of the bill:
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `REAL ID Act of 2005'.

TITLE I--AMENDMENTS TO FEDERAL LAWS TO PROTECT AGAINST TERRORIST ENTRY

SEC. 101. PREVENTING TERRORISTS FROM OBTAINING ASYLUM.

(a) Conditions for Granting Asylum- Section 208(b)(1) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1158(b)(1)) is amended--

(1) by striking `The Attorney General' following the paragraph heading and inserting the following:

`(A) ELIGIBILITY- The Secretary of Homeland Security or the Attorney General';

(2) by striking `the Attorney General' each place such term appears and inserting `the Secretary of Homeland Security or the Attorney General'; and

(3) by adding at the end the following:

`(B) BURDEN OF PROOF-

`(i) IN GENERAL- The burden of proof is on the applicant to establish that the applicant is a refugee, within the meaning of section 101(a)(42)(A). To establish that the applicant is a refugee, within the meaning of such section, the applicant must establish that race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion was or will be a central reason for persecuting the applicant.

`(ii) SUSTAINING BURDEN- The testimony of the applicant may be sufficient to sustain the applicant's burden without corroboration, but only if the trier of fact determines that it is credible, is persuasive, and refers to specific facts that demonstrate that the applicant is a refugee. In determining whether the applicant has met the applicant's burden, the trier of fact is entitled to weigh the credible testimony along with other evidence of record. Where the trier of fact determines, in the trier of fact's discretion, that the applicant should provide evidence which corroborates otherwise credible testimony, such evidence must be provided unless the applicant does not have the evidence or cannot obtain the evidence without departing the United States. The inability to obtain corroborating evidence does not excuse the applicant from meeting the applicant's burden of proof.

`(iii) CREDIBILITY DETERMINATION- The credibility determination of the trier of fact may, in the trier of fact's discretion, be based, in addition to other factors, on the demeanor, candor, or responsiveness of the applicant or witness, the inherent plausibility of the applicant's or witness' account, the consistency between the applicant's or witness' written and oral statements, made at any time and whether or not under oath, the internal consistency of each such statement, the consistency of such statements with the country conditions in the country from which the applicant claims asylum, and any inaccuracies or falsehoods in such statements.'.

(b) Withholding of Removal- Section 241(b)(3) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1231(b)(3)) is amended by adding at the end the following:

`(C) SUSTAINING BURDEN OF PROOF; CREDIBILITY DETERMINATIONS- In determining whether an alien has demonstrated that the alien's life or freedom would be threatened for a reason described in subparagraph (A), the trier of fact shall determine whether the alien has sustained the alien's burden of proof, and shall make credibility determinations, in the manner described in clauses (ii) and (iii) of section 208(b)(1)(B).'.

(c) Standard of Review for Orders of Removal- Section 242(b)(4) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1252(b)(4)) is amended by adding at the end, after the final subparagraph, the following:

`No court shall reverse a determination made by a trier of fact with respect to the availability of corroborating evidence, as described in section 208(b)(1)(B) or 241(b)(3)(C), unless the court finds that a reasonable trier of fact is compelled to conclude that such corroborating evidence is unavailable.'.

(d) Clarification of Discretion- Section 242(a)(2)(B) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1252(a)(2)(B)) is amended--

(1) in the matter preceding clause (i), by inserting `and regardless of whether the judgment, decision, or action is made in removal proceedings,' after `other provision of law,'; and

(2) in clause (ii), by inserting `or the Secretary of Homeland Security' after `Attorney General' each place such term appears.

(e) Effective Dates-

(1) The amendments made by paragraphs (1) and (2) of subsection (a) shall take effect as if enacted on March 1, 2003.

(2) The amendments made by subsections (a)(3) and (b) shall take effect on the date of the enactment of this Act and shall apply to applications for asylum or withholding made on or after such date.

(3) The amendment made by subsection (c) shall take effect on the date of the enactment of this Act and shall apply to all cases in which the final administrative removal order was issued before, on, or after such date.

(4) The amendments made by subsection (d) shall take effect on the date of the enactment of this Act and shall apply to all cases pending before any court on or after such date.

(f) Repeal- Section 5403 of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-458) is repealed.

SEC. 102. WAIVER OF LAWS NECESSARY FOR IMPROVEMENT OF BARRIERS AT BORDERS.

Section 102(c) of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (8 U.S.C. 1103 note) is amended to read as follows:

`(c) Waiver-

`(1) IN GENERAL- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall have the authority to waive, and shall waive, all laws such Secretary, in such Secretary's sole discretion, determines necessary to ensure expeditious construction of the barriers and roads under this section.

`(2) NO JUDICIAL REVIEW- Notwithstanding any other provision of law (statutory or nonstatutory), no court shall have jurisdiction--

`(A) to hear any cause or claim arising from any action undertaken, or any decision made, by the Secretary of Homeland Security pursuant to paragraph (1); or

`(B) to order compensatory, declaratory, injunctive, equitable, or any other relief for damage alleged to arise from any such action or decision.'.

SEC. 103. INADMISSIBILITY DUE TO TERRORIST AND TERRORIST-RELATED ACTIVITIES.

(a) In General- Section 212(a)(3)(B)(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1182(a)(3)(B)(i)) is amended to read as follows:

`(i) IN GENERAL- Any alien who--

`(I) has engaged in a terrorist activity;

`(II) a consular officer, the Attorney General, or the Secretary of Homeland Security knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity (as defined in clause (iv));

`(III) has, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily harm, incited terrorist activity;

`(IV) is a representative (as defined in clause (v)) of--
`(aa) a terrorist organization; or

`(bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity;


`(V) is a member of a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi);

`(VI) is a member of a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the alien can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the alien did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization;

`(VII) endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization;

`(VIII) has received military-type training (as defined in section 2339D(c)(1) of title 18, United States Code) from or on behalf of any organization that, at the time the training was received, was a terrorist organization; or

`(IX) is the spouse or child of an alien who is inadmissible under this subparagraph, if the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible occurred within the last 5 years,

is inadmissible. An alien who is an officer, official, representative, or spokesman of the Palestine Liberation Organization is considered, for purposes of this Act, to be engaged in a terrorist activity.'.

(b) Engage in Terrorist Activity Defined- Section 212(a)(3)(B)(iv) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1182(a)(3)(B)(iv)) is amended to read as follows:

`(iv) ENGAGE IN TERRORIST ACTIVITY DEFINED- As used in this subparagraph, the term `engage in terrorist activity' means, in an individual capacity or as a member of an organization--

`(I) to commit or to incite to commit, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily injury, a terrorist activity;

`(II) to prepare or plan a terrorist activity;

`(III) to gather information on potential targets for terrorist activity;

`(IV) to solicit funds or other things of value for--
`(aa) a terrorist activity;

`(bb) a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(I) or (vi)(II); or

`(cc) a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization;


`(V) to solicit any individual--
`(aa) to engage in conduct otherwise described in this clause;

`(bb) for membership in a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(I) or (vi)(II); or

`(cc) for membership in a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization; or


`(VI) to commit an act that the actor knows, or reasonably should know, affords material support, including a safe house, transportation, communications, funds, transfer of funds or other material financial benefit, false documentation or identification, weapons (including chemical, biological, or radiological weapons), explosives, or training--
`(aa) for the commission of a terrorist activity;

`(bb) to any individual who the actor knows, or reasonably should know, has committed or plans to commit a terrorist activity;

`(cc) to a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi); or

`(dd) to a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the actor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the actor did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization.'.


(c) Terrorist Organization Defined- Section 212(a)(3)(B)(vi) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1182(a)(3)(B)(vi)) is amended to read as follows:

`(vi) TERRORIST ORGANIZATION DEFINED- As used in this section, the term `terrorist organization' means an organization--

`(I) designated under section 219;

`(II) otherwise designated, upon publication in the Federal Register, by the Secretary of State in consultation with or upon the request of the Attorney General or the Secretary of Homeland Security, as a terrorist organization, after finding that the organization engages in the activities described in subclauses (I) through (VI) of clause (iv); or

`(III) that is a group of two or more individuals, whether organized or not, which engages in, or has a subgroup which engages in, the activities described in subclauses (I) through (VI) of clause (iv).'.

(d) Effective Date- The amendments made by this section shall take effect on the date of the enactment of this Act and shall apply to--

(1) removal proceedings instituted before, on, or after the date of the enactment of this Act; and

(2) acts and conditions constituting a ground for inadmissibility occurring or existing before, on, or after such date.

SEC. 104. REMOVAL OF TERRORISTS.

(a) In General-

(1) IN GENERAL- Section 237(a)(4)(B) (8 U.S.C. 1227(a)(4)(B)) is amended to read as follows:

`(B) TERRORIST ACTIVITIES- Any alien who would be considered inadmissible pursuant to subparagraph (B) or (F) of section 212(a)(3) is deportable.'.

(2) EFFECTIVE DATE- The amendment made by paragraph (1) shall take effect on the date of the enactment of this Act and shall apply to acts and conditions constituting a ground for removal occurring or existing before, on, or after such date.

(b) Repeal- Effective as of the date of the enactment of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-458), section 5402 of such Act is repealed, and the Immigration and Nationality Act shall be applied as if such section had not been enacted.

TITLE II--IMPROVED SECURITY FOR DRIVERS' LICENSES AND PERSONAL IDENTIFICATION CARDS

SEC. 201. DEFINITIONS.

In this title, the following definitions apply:

(1) DRIVER'S LICENSE- The term `driver's license' means a motor vehicle operator's license, as defined in section 30301 of title 49, United States Code.

(2) IDENTIFICATION CARD- The term `identification card' means a personal identification card, as defined in section 1028(d) of title 18, United States Code, issued by a State.

(3) SECRETARY- The term `Secretary' means the Secretary of Homeland Security.

(4) STATE- The term `State' means a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, the Northern Mariana Islands, the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands, and any other territory or possession of the United States.

SEC. 202. MINIMUM DOCUMENT REQUIREMENTS AND ISSUANCE STANDARDS FOR FEDERAL RECOGNITION.

(a) Minimum Standards for Federal Use-

(1) IN GENERAL- Beginning 3 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, a Federal agency may not accept, for any official purpose, a driver's license or identification card issued by a State to any person unless the State is meeting the requirements of this section.

(2) STATE CERTIFICATIONS- The Secretary shall determine whether a State is meeting the requirements of this section based on certifications made by the State to the Secretary. Such certifications shall be made at such times and in such manner as the Secretary, in consultation with the Secretary of Transportation, may prescribe by regulation.

(b) Minimum Document Requirements- To meet the requirements of this section, a State shall include, at a minimum, the following information and features on each driver's license and identification card issued to a person by the State:

(1) The person's full legal name.

(2) The person's date of birth.

(3) The person's gender.

(4) The person's driver's license or identification card number.

(5) A digital photograph of the person.

(6) The person's address of principle residence.

(7) The person's signature.

(8) Physical security features designed to prevent tampering, counterfeiting, or duplication of the document for fraudulent purposes.

(9) A common machine-readable technology, with defined minimum data elements.

(c) Minimum Issuance Standards-

(1) IN GENERAL- To meet the requirements of this section, a State shall require, at a minimum, presentation and verification of the following information before issuing a driver's license or identification card to a person:

(A) A photo identity document, except that a non-photo identity document is acceptable if it includes both the person's full legal name and date of birth.

(B) Documentation showing the person's date of birth.

(C) Proof of the person's social security account number or verification that the person is not eligible for a social security account number.

(D) Documentation showing the person's name and address of principal residence.

(2) SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS-

(A) IN GENERAL- To meet the requirements of this section, a State shall comply with the minimum standards of this paragraph.

(B) EVIDENCE OF LAWFUL STATUS- A State shall require, before issuing a driver's license or identification card to a person, valid documentary evidence that the person--

(i) is a citizen of the United States;

(ii) is an alien lawfully admitted for permanent or temporary residence in the United States;

(iii) has conditional permanent resident status in the United States;

(iv) has an approved application for asylum in the United States or has entered into the United States in refugee status;

(v) has a valid, unexpired nonimmigrant visa or nonimmigrant visa status for entry into the United States;

(vi) has a pending application for asylum in the United States;

(vii) has a pending or approved application for temporary protected status in the United States;

(viii) has approved deferred action status; or

(ix) has a pending application for adjustment of status to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the United States or conditional permanent resident status in the United States.

(C) TEMPORARY DRIVERS' LICENSES AND IDENTIFICATION CARDS-

(i) IN GENERAL- If a person presents evidence under any of clauses (v) through (ix) of subparagraph (B), the State may only issue a temporary driver's license or temporary identification card to the person.
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