military recruitment at fundamentalist church (warning, big images)

[Minstrel Boy]

Go here for the whole ugly story, and many more images: http://shlonkombakazay.blogspot.com/2005/02/holy-st-its-fascist-picture-story-time.html


"First off, this is absolutely true and only happened about an hour ago. I am a Christian, a republican and support the war in Iraq, but this pisses me off in ways I cannot explain even to myself. This is not a debate thread, after you read this and look at the pictures, if you post anything it will be reactions, advice, or simple opinion. I know there are a lot of military personal in this forum and I would love to here what you have to say about this but if this turns into a flame war I will be extremely upset with whoever's involved. Now on to the story."







"At this point Captain Sturecker preached to us in full dress uniform about his early faith was based in fear of going to hell, but now he doesn’t need to fear death, and about his experiences in the black hawk afair. In particular he prayed after his first drive back to base (If you‘ve seen the movie, he was the humvee driver with the injured man on strecher in the back. He was also the guy that said, “The difference in between heroes and cowards isn‘t the fear it‘s what they do with it”), and after that even though the vehicle was shot to hell, he had no casualties. He even watched an RPG barely miss its’ mark and deflect off his hood. Every word of this might be true, but it was also part of a “The lord will protect you in the military” themed sermon. I have never had both respect and disgust for a single individual with such volume in my life. When I asked him for a picture with him holding the same bible he is in the sermon picture I think my attitude came off as “fan boy”."



"Even as I had already taken these photographs of something that I clearly know is wrong, hell we ended with “I‘m proud to be an American”, after a sermon and a combined rendition of all the services anthems. I was conflicted. I knew, and know that almost all of the people I’m depending on to bring this to light disagree with me on virtually every issue. I wasn’t going to release this unless they were recruiting. They were.

"Jesus himself only got mad once. It was because merchants were using the church to sell their wares, he flipped their tables, seized a whip, and attacked them. This day the answer to “what would Jesus do?” is grab one of the m-16s laying around and start kneecapping."

[DrWeird]

1. LOL.

Sounds like Al Qaeda.

Only crazier.

[Endangered Specie]

2. Doesn't it seem a little odd to bring an Assault Rifle

into a house of God? :shrug: I mean, they used to get mad at me just for running in church.

[htuttle]

4. That struck me as particularly out of place, yes

Jesus, love, M-16?

I just don't make that connection.

[RobertSeattle]

7. I wonder if a M-16 in church, even if fake, is technically a war crime

Hmmmm.

[TlalocW]

6. Well, maybe if they had assault rifles in chruch when you were a kid

You wouldn't have run in church? :)

TlalocW

[BR_Parkway]

3. They voted for Shrub in droves, they should stand behind their votes

[Warpy]

5. You'd think so, and enlist immediately.

Anybody in this church who was disgusted by the recruitment disguised as a quasi religious service honoring the military should find another church. If there is no alternative church, they should follow their consciences and stay home.

Anybody who supports one of these churches by their presence and their donations when they know better is no better than the scum running a propaganda mill disguised as a church.

[cornermouse]

8. Guns do not belong in the House of God.

[jody]

11. Perhaps it's no longer the House of God? n/t

[cornermouse]

12. You're probably right.

[Anakin Skywalker]

15. More like House of Bush nowadays.

Disgusting!

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. If Lt. General Boykin can do it,

how the hell can we tell a lowly Captain not to

Let me see, an 0-8 does it, why not an 0-3....

Somethign about the UCMJ comes to mind, that is when it still worked...

Of cousre he may no longer be in the service.. but that is another story

On the bright side I want to see these pro war fuckers go to the army so Captain snare as many as yuo can... good luck though, most chickenhawks are too chickenshit to go there

[Bouncy Ball]

10. FAMOUS DAVE'S BBQ WAS IN ON THIS??????

OH MY GOD!!!!

No seriously, that is some sick stuff.

Assault rifles in a church. Whew.

[Acryliccalico]

13. This is so sick

:kick:

[jody]

14. Practicing or preaching?

The Porter Memorial Baptist Church says it believes in the following and the world would be better if its members started practicing what they preach.

QUOTE
Stewardship
God is the source of all blessings, temporal and spiritual; all that we have and are we owe to Him. Christians have a spiritual debtorship to the whole world, a holy trusteeship in the gospel, and a binding stewardship in their possessions. They are therefore under obligation to serve Him with their time, talents, and material possessions; and should recognize all these as entrusted to them to use for the glory of God and for helping others. According to the Scriptures, Christians should contribute of their means cheerfully, regularly, systematically, proportionately, and liberally for the advancement of the Redeemer's cause on earth.
Genesis 14:20; Leviticus 27:30-32; Deuteronomy 8:18; Malachi 3:8-12; Matthew 6:1-4,19-21; 19:21; 23:23; 25:14-29; Luke 12:16-21,42; 16:1-13; Acts 2:44-47; 5:1-11; 17:24-25; 20:35; Romans 6:6-22; 12:1-2; 1 Corinthians 4:1-2; 6:19-20; 12; 16:1-4; 2 Corinthians 8-9; 12:15; Philippians 4:10-19; 1 Peter 1:18-19.

* * * * * * * * * * *

Peace and War
It is the duty of Christians to seek peace with all men on principles of righteousness. In accordance with the spirit and teachings of Christ they should do all in their power to put an end to war.
The true remedy for the war spirit is the gospel of our Lord. The supreme need of the world is the acceptance of His teachings in all the affairs of men and nations, and the practical application of His law of love. Christian people throughout the world should pray for the reign of the Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 2:4; Matthew 5:9,38-48; 6:33; 26:52; Luke 22:36,38; Romans 12:18-19; 13:1-7; 14:19; Hebrews 12:14; James 4:1-2.
UNQUOTE

Note, the smilie after "Matthew 5" above, came up by chance so I thought I would leave it.
:evilgrin:

[Bluebear]

16. PHOTO: Notice all the recruitment brochures not picked up

So they all patted each other on their manly backs, ate BBQ, probably sang a few hymns and Lee Greenwood then went home. How many enlisted? Wanna bet?

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

17. Two of my nephews go to one of those

Fundie mega-churches. They are only junior high school-age, but I am worried that they will get brainwashed into some kind of theocratic, right-wing, quasi-military movement like this.

[Alizaryn]

18. I am impressed that he kept his wits about him and got photos,

I would have R U N out the door. I would be curious to find out how the others that were a part of the service/program? felt and reacted. Its so very sad that people are not seeing what is happening!

[Minstrel Boy]

21. Yeah, I know what you mean.

Impressed me, too. He's a young Christian Republican who supports the war, but he knows that something is really, really wrong with this picture.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

19. Kill for Christ! Sign right up for a free ticket to heaven.

The idiot in the uniform carrying the bible, should try reading what Jesus had to say about killing.

[leesa]

20. Excellent! They are the ones who voted for this dirty little war

They wanted it, they should fight in it. It's THEIR crusade.

[RBHam]

22. Stupid, Stupid Fundies...

[Katidid]

23. My Chin is now Permanently Bruised

from hitting the top of my desk ! ! I am speechless.

:wtf:

[dhinojosa]

24. Take em away!

LMAO!

KILL 4 CHRIST!

[Grey Ranks]

25. Not the US Military

I find it hard to believe that this was a US Military sponsored event, they would never survive the investigation. Even if an officer, who was a church member, was there in uniform.

[Radio-Active]

26. lost cause...

the fundies won't enlist..
they just want to munch popcorn and watch the war on TV

[eridani]

27. Kick for Friday AM crowd n/t

[noamnety]

28. Who paid to bring a blackhawk to the church?

It's odd that a church would do this, but I'm more concerned about the legalities of an army unit paying to get their equipment to a church. That doesn't sound right.

[alfredo]

29. I live in Lexington. I will see if any laws were broken by bringing a gun

into a church.

If anyone wants to, send this to Keith Olbermann.