"The Democrats DO have a plan for Social Security:"

[scottxyz]

The Democrats do have a plan for Social Security: They implemented it 70 years ago and it's still working.

from 'smartone' in comments at Washington Monthly
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_02/005592.php

via
http://corrente.blogspot.com/2005/02/social-security-talking-point.html

[mattclearing]

1. I believe this is the correct answer.

And then follow up with "The Bush plan guarantees that guaranteed benefits will be cut."

And then kill with "Borrow $2 trillion more in our name."

Rinse and repeat.

[Itsthetruth]

3. And Our Response To Bush's Other Proposed Cuts Is?

What about the other cuts outside of "privitization" proposed by Bush?

[mattclearing]

7. I haven't seen his proposal yet.

Is it in coherent form? Last I heard there were a few talking points, nothing particularly specific, but that was in the leadup to the SOTU.

Honestly, I assume Social Security will not survive until I qualify for it, simply based on the fact that our economy is the nation-state equivalent of a stupid person with a maxed out credit card running around with a gun threatening family members and attacking the neighbors.

[stray cat]

2. Excellent Answer!

[Tigress DEM]

4. Ya' know what the problem is here...

Bush et al are so absurd that they are causing us to overload our brains. They are tragically funny, but their dog and pony show is just a cover so they can sneak around and rob us blind and make legistaltion to round us up and fence us in.

This thread >> GOP introduces bill to suspend ALL laws - makes moot all our humor, all our activism, everything. He's setting up a legal means of dictatorship.

The REAL ID Act of 2005 introduced January 26, 2005, by Rep. Sensenbrenner SEEMS like just a basic immigration add on, but the looseness of the provisions imply that they can be used to suspend ALL laws with NO RECOURSE by the people to do a damm thing about it.

Whether it's pigeons crapping on statues or Social Security crises, this administration is like a skillful carnie, always keeping your eyes glued to shells moving faster than light, but with skilled timing distracting you at the right moment so you NEVER win.

If I were Bush, I'd be worried about a hostile takeover right about now, and this bill if passed - and how can it not if no one even here on the DU gives a shit about it??? - gives him permission to do ANYTHING to ANYONE for ANY REASON.

PEOPLE WAKE UP!!!!

[scottxyz]

5. What is this Real ID Act of 2005 introduced by Sensenbrenner?

Haven't heard about it yet. Is there a link for it?

[LiviaOlivia]

6. Try this

Good discussion also. I believe it is posted by the same person here somewhere.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/5/15448/41910

[Tigress DEM]

12. Full Resolution - http://thomas.loc.gov search 418

[stray cat]

9. I saw that - I think that law and others to come are the real goal.

How do we draw media attention to the REAL ID Act provision?

Homeland Security will be able to act outside of the law with no checks and balances. We need to contact senators as to what in the hell they are being asked to do.

Sometimes they don't even bother to read these things.

[Tigress DEM]

13. This is a House Bill - Here are your legislators...

<< edited to be more user friendly >>

http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml

U.S. House of Representatives, Washington


Alabama


Aderholt, Robert , Alabama, 4th
Bachus, Spencer , Alabama, 6th
Bonner, Jo, Alabama, 1st
Cramer, Robert E. "Bud" , Alabama, 5th
Davis, Artur , Alabama, 7th
Everett, Terry , Alabama, 2nd
Rogers, Mike, Alabama, 3rd


Alaska


Young, Don , Alaska, At Large


Arkansas

Berry, Marion , Arkansas, 1st
Boozman, John, Arkansas, 3rd
Ross, Mike, Arkansas, 4th
Snyder, Vic , Arkansas 2nd


Arizona

Franks, Trent, Arizona, 2nd
Grijalva, Raul, Arizona, 7th
Flake, Jeff , Arizona, 6th
Hayworth, J.D., Arizona, 5th
Kolbe, Jim , Arizona, 8th
Pastor, Ed , Arizona, 4th
Renzi, Rick, Arizona, 1st
Shadegg, John , Arizona, 3rd


California

Baca, Joe , California, 43rd
Becerra, Xavier , California, 31st
Berman, Howard , California, 28th
Bono, Mary , California, 45th
Calvert, Ken , California, 44th
Capps, Lois , California, 23rd
Cardoza, Dennis, California, 18th
Costa, Jim , California, 20th
Cox, Christopher , California, 48th
Cunningham, Randy "Duke" , California, 50th
Davis, Susan , California, 53rd
Doolittle, John , California, 4th
Dreier, David , California, 26th
Eshoo, Anna G. , California, 14th
Farr, Sam , California, 17th
Filner, Bob , California, 51st
Gallegly, Elton , California, 24th
Harman, Jane, California, 36th
Herger, Wally , California, 2nd
Honda, Mike , California, 15th
Hunter, Duncan , California, 52nd
Issa, Darrell, California, 49th
Lantos, Tom , California, 12th
Lee, Barbara , California, 9th
Lewis, Jerry , California, 41st
Lofgren, Zoe , California, 16th
Lungren, Daniel E. , California, 3rd
McKeon, Buck , California, 25th
Solis, Hilda, California, 32nd
Matsui, Robert , California, 5th - Vacancy
Millender-McDonald, Juanita , California, 37th
Miller, Gary , California, 42nd
Miller, George , California, 7th
Napolitano, Grace , California, 38th
Nunes, Devin, California, 21st
Pelosi, Nancy , California, 8th
Pombo, Richard , California, 11th
Radanovich, George P. , California, 19th
Rohrabacher, Dana , California, 46th
Roybal-Allard, Lucille , California, 34th
Royce, Ed , California, 40th
Sanchez, Linda, California, 39th
Sanchez, Loretta , California, 47th
Schiff, Adam, California, 29th
Sherman, Brad , California, 27th
Stark, Fortney Pete , California, 13th
Tauscher, Ellen , California, 10th
Thomas, Bill , California, 22nd
Thompson, Mike , California, 1st
Waters, Maxine , California, 35th
Watson, Diane E., California, 33rd
Waxman, Henry , California, 30th
Woolsey, Lynn , California, 6th


Colorado

Beauprez, Bob, Colorado, 7th
DeGette, Diana , Colorado, 1st
Hefley, Joel, Colorado, 5th
Musgrave, Marilyn, Colorado, 4th
Salazar, John T. , Colorado, 3rd
Tancredo, Tom , Colorado, 6th
Udall, Mark , Colorado, 2nd


Connecticut

DeLauro, Rosa L. , Connecticut, 3rd
Johnson, Nancy L. , Connecticut, 5th
Larson, John B. , Connecticut, 1st
Shays, Christopher , Connecticut, 4th
Simmons, Rob , Connecticut, 2nd


District of Columbia

Norton, Eleanor Holmes , District of Columbia


Delaware

Castle, Michael N. , Delaware, At Large


Florida

Bilirakis, Michael , Florida, 9th
Boyd, Allen , Florida, 2nd
Brown, Corrine , Florida, 3rd
Brown-Waite, Virginia, Florida, 5th
Crenshaw, Ander , Florida, 4th
Davis, Jim , Florida, 11th
Diaz-Balart, Lincoln , Florida, 21st
Diaz-Balart, Mario, Florida, 25th
Feeney, Tom, Florida, 24th
Foley, Mark , Florida, 16th
Hastings, Alcee L. , Florida, 23rd
Harris, Katherine, Florida, 13th
Keller, Ric, Florida, 8th
Mack, Connie , Florida, 14th
Meek, Kendrick , Florida, 17th
Mica, John, Florida, 7th
Miller, Jeff, Florida, 1st
Putnam, Adam, Florida, 12th
Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana , Florida, 18th
Shaw Jr., E. Clay , Florida, 22nd
Stearns, Cliff , Florida, 6th
Wasserman Schultz, Debbie , Florida, 20th
Weldon, Dave , Florida, 15th
Wexler, Robert , Florida, 19th
Young, C.W. Bill , Florida, 10th


Georgia

Barrow, John, Georgia, 12th
Bishop Jr., Sanford D. , Georgia, 2nd
Deal, Nathan , Georgia, 10th
Gingrey, Phil, Georgia, 11th
Kingston, Jack , Georgia, 1st
Lewis, John , Georgia, 5th
Linder, John , Georgia, 7th
Marshall, Jim, Georgia, 3rd
McKinney, Cynthia, Georgia, 4th
Norwood, Charlie , Georgia, 9th
Price, Tom , Georgia, 6th
Scott, David, Georgia, 13th
Westmoreland, Lynn A. , Georgia, 8th


Hawaii

Abercrombie, Neil , Hawaii, 1st
Case, Ed , Hawaii, 2nd


Iowa

Boswell, Leonard , Iowa, 3rd
King, Steve, Iowa, 5th
Latham, Tom , Iowa, 4th
Leach, Jim , Iowa, 2nd
Nussle, Jim , Iowa, 1st


Idaho

Otter, Butch , Idaho, 1st
Simpson, Mike , Idaho, 2nd


Illinois

Bean, Melissa L. , Illinois, 8th
Biggert, Judy , Illinois, 13th
Costello, Jerry , Illinois, 12th
Davis, Danny K. , Illinois, 7th
Emanuel, Rahm, Illinois, 5th
Evans, Lane , Illinois, 17th
Gutierrez, Luis , Illinois, 4th
Hastert, Denny , Illinois, 14th
Hyde, Henry , Illinois, 6th
Jackson Jr., Jesse L. , Illinois, 2nd
Johnson, Timothy V., Illinois, 15th
Kirk, Mark , Illinois, 10th
Lahood, Ray , Illinois, 18th
Lipinski, Daniel , Illinois, 3rd
Manzullo, Donald , Illinois, 16th
Rush, Bobby L. , Illinois, 1st
Schakowsky, Jan , Illinois, 9th
Shimkus, John , Illinois, 19th
Weller, Jerry , Illinois, 11th


Indiana

Burton, Dan , Indiana, 5th
Buyer, Steve , Indiana, 4th
Carson, Julia , Indiana, 7th
Chocola, Chris, Indiana, 2nd
Hostettler, John N. , Indiana, 8th
Pence, Mike, Indiana, 6th
Sodrel, Michael E. , Indiana, 9th
Souder, Mark E. , Indiana, 3rd
Visclosky, Peter , Indiana, 1st


Kansas

Moore, Dennis , Kansas, 3rd
Moran, Jerry , Kansas, 1st
Ryun, Jim , Kansas, 2nd
Tiahrt, Todd , Kansas, 4th


Kentucky

Chandler, Ben, Kentucky, 6th
Davis, Geoff , Kentucky, 4th
Lewis, Ron , Kentucky, 2nd
Northup, Anne , Kentucky, 3rd
Rogers, Harold , Kentucky, 5th
Whitfield, Ed , Kentucky, 1st


Louisiana

Alexander, Rodney, Louisiana, 5th
Baker, Richard , Louisiana, 6th
Boustany Jr., Charles W. , Louisiana, 7th
Jefferson, William J. , Louisiana, 2nd
Jindal, Bobby , Louisiana, 1st
McCrery, Jim , Louisiana, 4th
Melancon, Charlie , Louisiana, 3rd


Massachusetts

Capuano, Michael E. , Massachusetts, 8th
Delahunt, William , Massachusetts, 10th
Frank, Barney , Massachusetts, 4th
Lynch, Stephen F., Massachusetts, 9th
McGovern, James , Massachusetts, 3rd
Markey, Ed , Massachusetts, 7th
Meehan, Marty , Massachusetts, 5th
Neal, Richard E. , Massachusetts, 2nd
Olver, John , Massachusetts, 1st
Tierney, John , Massachusetts, 6th


Maryland

Bartlett, Roscoe , Maryland, 6th
Cardin, Benjamin L. , Maryland, 3rd
Cummings, Elijah , Maryland, 7th
Gilchrest, Wayne , Maryland, 1st
Hoyer, Steny H. , Maryland, 5th
Ruppersberger, Dutch, Maryland, 2nd
Van Hollen, Chris, Maryland, 8th
Wynn, Albert , Maryland, 4th


Maine

Allen, Tom , Maine, 1st
Michaud, Michael, Maine, 2nd


Michigan

Camp, Dave , Michigan, 4th
Conyers Jr., John , Michigan, 14th
Dingell, John D. , Michigan, 15th
Ehlers, Vernon J. , Michigan, 3rd
Hoekstra, Pete , Michigan, 2nd
Kildee, Dale , Michigan, 5th
Kilpatrick, Carolyn , Michigan, 13th
Knollenberg, Joseph , Michigan, 9th
Levin, Sander , Michigan, 12th
McCotter, Thaddeus, Michigan, 11th
Miller, Candice, Michigan, 10th
Rogers, Mike , Michigan, 8th
Schwarz, John J.H. "Joe" , Michigan, 7th
Stupak, Bart , Michigan, 1st
Upton, Fred , Michigan, 6th


Minnesota

Gutknecht, Gil , Minnesota, 1st
Kennedy, Mark , Minnesota, 6th
Kline, John, Minnesota, 2nd
McCollum, Betty, Minnesota, 4th
Oberstar, James L., Minnesota, 8th
Peterson, Collin C. , Minnesota, 7th
Ramstad, Jim , Minnesota, 3rd
Sabo, Martin Olav , Minnesota, 5th


Missouri

Akin, Todd , Missouri, 2nd
Blunt, Roy , Missouri 7th
Carnahan, Russ , Missouri, 3rd
Clay Jr., William "Lacy" , Missouri, 1st
Cleaver, Emanuel , Missouri, 5th
Emerson, Jo Ann , Missouri, 8th
Graves, Sam, Missouri, 6th
Hulshof, Kenny , Missouri, 9th
Skelton, Ike , Missouri, 4th


Mississippi

Pickering, Charles W. "Chip" , Mississippi, 3rd
Taylor, Gene , Mississippi, 4th
Thompson, Bennie G., Mississippi, 2nd
Wicker, Roger , Mississippi, 1st


Montana

Rehberg, Dennis , Montana, At Large


Nebraska

Fortenberry, Jeff , Nebraska, 1st
Osborne, Tom, Nebraska, 3rd
Terry, Lee , Nebraska, 2nd


Nevada

Berkley, Shelley , Nevada, 1st
Gibbons, Jim , Nevada, 2nd
Porter, Jon, Nevada, 3rd


New Hampshire

Bass, Charles , New Hampshire, 2nd
Bradley, Jeb, New Hampshire, 1st


New Jersey

Andrews, Robert E. , New Jersey, 1st
Ferguson, Michael , New Jersey, 7th
Frelinghuysen, Rodney , New Jersey, 11th
Garrett, Scott, New Jersey, 5th
Holt, Rush , New Jersey, 12th
LoBiondo, Frank , New Jersey, 2nd
Menendez, Bob , New Jersey, 13th
Pallone Jr., Frank , New Jersey, 6th
Pascrell Jr., Bill , New Jersey, 8th
Payne, Donald M. , New Jersey, 10th
Rothman, Steven , New Jersey, 9th
Saxton, Jim , New Jersey, 3rd
Smith, Chris , New Jersey, 4th


New Mexico

Pearce, Steve, New Mexico, 2nd
Udall, Tom , New Mexico, 3rd
Wilson, Heather , New Mexico, 1st


New York

Ackerman, Gary , New York, 5th
Bishop, Timothy, New York, 1st
Boehlert, Sherwood L. , New York, 24th
Crowley, Joseph , New York, 7th
Engel, Eliot , New York, 17th
Fossella, Vito , New York, 13th
Higgins, Brian, New York, 27th
Hinchey, Maurice , New York, 22nd
Israel, Steve , New York, 2nd
Kelly, Sue , New York, 19th
King, Pete , New York, 3rd
Kuhl Jr., John R. "Randy" , New York, 29th
Lowey, Nita , New York, 18th
McCarthy, Carolyn , New York, 4th
McHugh, John M. , New York, 23rd
McNulty, Michael R. , New York, 21st
Maloney, Carolyn , New York, 14th
Meeks, Gregory W. , New York, 6th
Nadler, Jerrold , New York, 8th
Owens, Major , New York, 11th
Rangel, Charles B. , New York, 15th
Reynolds, Thomas M. , New York, 26th
Serrano, José E. , New York, 16th
Slaughter, Louise , New York, 28th
Sweeney, John E. , New York, 20th
Towns, Edolphus , New York, 10th
Velázquez, Nydia M. , New York, 12th
Walsh, Jim , New York, 25th
Weiner, Anthony D. , New York, 9th


North Carolina

Butterfield, G.K., North Carolina, 1st
Coble, Howard , North Carolina, 6th
Etheridge, Bob , North Carolina, 2nd
Foxx, Virginia , North Carolina, 5th
Hayes, Robin , North Carolina, 8th
Jones, Walter B. , North Carolina, 3rd
McHenry, Patrick T. , North Carolina, 10th
McIntyre, Mike , North Carolina, 7th
Miller, Brad, North Carolina, 13th
Myrick, Sue , North Carolina, 9th
Price, David , North Carolina, 4th
Taylor, Charles H. , North Carolina, 11th
Watt, Mel , North Carolina, 12th


North Dakota

Pomeroy, Earl , North Dakota, At Large


Ohio

Boehner, John A. , Ohio, 8th
Brown, Sherrod , Ohio, 13th
Chabot, Steve , Ohio, 1st
Gillmor, Paul , Ohio, 5th
Hobson, David , Ohio, 7th
Jones, Stephanie Tubbs , Ohio, 11th
Kaptur, Marcy , Ohio, 9th
Kucinich, Dennis J. , Ohio, 10th
LaTourette, Steven C., Ohio, 14th
Ney, Robert W. , Ohio, 18th
Oxley, Michael G. , Ohio, 4th
Portman, Rob, Ohio, 2nd
Pryce, Deborah, Ohio, 15th
Regula, Ralph, Ohio, 16th
Ryan, Tim, Ohio, 17th
Strickland, Ted, Ohio, 6th
Tiberi, Pat, Ohio, 12th
Turner, Michael, Ohio, 3rd


Oklahoma

Boren, Dan, Oklahoma, 2nd
Cole, Tom, Oklahoma, 4th
Istook Jr., Ernest J. , Oklahoma, 5th
Lucas, Frank , Oklahoma, 3rd
Sullivan, John, Oklahoma, 1st


Oregon

Blumenauer, Earl , Oregon 3rd
DeFazio, Peter , Oregon, 4th
Hooley, Darlene , Oregon, 5th
Walden, Greg , Oregon, 2nd
Wu, David , Oregon, 1st


Pennsylvania

Brady, Robert , Pennsylvania, 1st
Dent, Charles W. , Pennsylvania, 15th
Doyle, Mike , Pennsylvania, 14th
English, Phil , Pennsylvania, 3rd
Fattah, Chaka , Pennsylvania, 2nd
Fitzpatrick, Michael G., Pennsylvania, 8th
Gerlach, Jim, Pennsylvania, 6th
Hart, Melissa, Pennsylvania, 4th
Kanjorski, Paul E. , Pennsylvania, 11th
Holden, Tim , Pennsylvania, 17th
Murphy, Tim, Pennsylvania, 18th
Murtha, John , Pennsylvania, 12th
Peterson, John E. , Pennsylvania, 5th
Pitts, Joseph R. , Pennsylvania, 16th
Platts, Todd , Pennsylvania, 19th
Schwartz, Allyson L. , Pennsylvania, 13th
Sherwood, Don , Pennsylvania, 10th
Shuster, Bill, Pennsylvania, 9th
Weldon, Curt , Pennsylvania, 7th


Rhode Island

Kennedy, Patrick , Rhode Island, 1st
Langevin, Jim, Rhode Island, 2nd


South Carolina

Barrett, J.Gresham, South Carolina, 3rd
Brown, Henry , South Carolina, 1st
Clyburn, James E. , South Carolina, 6th
Inglis, Bob , South Carolina, 4th
Spratt,John , South Carolina, 5th
Wilson, Joe, South Carolina, 2nd


South Dakota

Herseth, Stephanie, South Dakota, At Large


Tennessee

Blackburn, Marsha, Tennessee 7th
Cooper, Jim, Tennessee, 5th
Davis, Lincoln, Tennessee, 4th
Duncan Jr., John J. , Tennessee, 2nd
Ford, Harold , Tennessee, 9th
Gordon, Bart , Tennessee, 6th
Jenkins, William L. , Tennessee, 1st
Tanner, John , Tennessee, 8th
Wamp, Zach , Tennessee, 3rd


Texas

Barton, Joe , Texas, 6th
Bonilla, Henry , Texas, 23rd
Brady, Kevin , Texas, 8th
Burgess, Michael, Texas, 26th
Carter, John, Texas, 31st
Conaway, K. Michael , Texas, 11th
Cuellar, Henry , Texas, 28th
Culberson, John , Texas, 7th
DeLay, Tom , Texas, 22nd
Doggett, Lloyd , Texas, 25th
Edwards, Chet , Texas, 17th
Gohmert, Louie , Texas 1st
Gonzalez, Charlie A. , Texas, 20th
Granger, Kay , Texas, 12th
Green, Al , Texas, 9th
Green, Gene , Texas, 29th
Hall, Ralph M. , Texas, 4th
Hensarling, Jeb, Texas, 5th
Hinojosa, Rubén , Texas, 15th
Jackson Lee, Sheila , Texas, 18th
Johnson, Eddie Bernice , Texas 30th
Johnson, Sam , Texas, 3rd
Marchant, Kenny , Texas, 24th
McCaul, Michael T. , Texas, 10th
Neugebauer, Randy, Texas, 19th
Ortiz, Solomon P. , Texas, 27th
Paul, Ron , Texas, 14th
Poe, Ted , Texas, 2nd
Reyes, Silvestre , Texas, 16th
Sessions, Pete, Texas, 32nd
Smith, Lamar , Texas, 21st
Thornberry, Mac , Texas, 13th


Utah

Bishop, Rob, Utah, 1st
Cannon, Chris , Utah, 3rd
Matheson, Jim, Utah, 2nd


Virginia

Cantor, Eric , Virginia, 7th
Boucher, Rick , Virginia, 9th
Davis, Jo Ann S., Virginia, 1st
Davis, Tom , Virginia, 11th
Drake, Thelma D. , Virginia, 2nd
Forbes, J. Randy, Virginia, 4th
Goode Jr., Virgil H. , Virginia, 5th
Goodlatte, Bob , Virginia, 6th
Moran, Jim , Virginia, 8th
Scott, Robert C. "Bobby" , Virginia, 3rd
Wolf, Frank , Virginia, 10th


Vermont

Sanders, Bernie , Vermont, At Large


Washington

Baird, Brian , Washington, 3rd
Dicks, Norman D. , Washington, 6th
Hastings, Doc , Washington, 4th
Inslee, Jay , Washington, 1st
Larsen, Rick , Washington, 2nd
McDermott, Jim , Washington, 7th
McMorris, Cathy , Washington, 5th
Reichert, David G. , Washington, 8th
Smith, Adam , Washington, 9th


Wisconsin

Baldwin, Tammy , Wisconsin, 2nd
Green, Mark , Wisconsin, 8th
Kind, Ron , Wisconsin, 3rd
Moore, Gwen , Wisconsin, 4th
Obey, David R. , Wisconsin, 7th
Petri, Thomas , Wisconsin, 6th
Ryan, Paul , Wisconsin, 1st
Sensenbrenner, F. James , Wisconsin, 5th


West Virginia

Capito, Shelley Moore , West Virginia, 2nd
Mollohan, Alan B. , West Virginia, 1st
Rahall, Nick , West Virginia, 3rd


Wyoming

Cubin, Barbara , Wyoming, At Large


Delegates:
American Samoa
Faleomavaega, Eni F. H., American Samoa (Delegate)


Guam
Bordallo, Madeleine, Guam (Delegate)

Puerto Rico
Fortuno, Luis G. , Puerto Rico (Resident Commissioner)


Virgin Islands
Christian-Christensen, Donna M. , U.S. Virgin Islands (Delegate)

[scottxyz]

8. The Dems' alternative to the Bush plan? "Social Security!"

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2005_01_30_digbysblog_archive.html#110746585935730631

"May I just make one little observation that seems to have escaped those who believe that Democrats should offer an alternative to the Preznit's Personal Privatized Individual Retirement Account Security plan? We already are offering an alternative. It's called Social Security."

[K-W]

10. The Democrats plan IS Social Security.

The Democrats support strengthening an already robust program.

The Republicans support trying to fix something that isnt broken. And doing it intentionally badly.

[Itsthetruth]

11. Good To Hear That

That's good to hear. I don't think the program needs to be fixed, however, tell me what the Democratic Party program is to strengthen it?

Lowering the retirement age back down to 65 would be a good start. We can afford to do that now.

[Zinfandel]

14. Social Security is sound there is NOTHING wrong with it. If Bush doesn't

lie about it, how can he and the republicans take steps to systematically destroy Social Security?

Just as the republicans have vowed to do for seventy years?

Social Security goes against republican ideology, republicans have always despised, loathed, detested & hated Social Security from day one...

Republicans have to find a way to get rid of SS and they found one...

All the republicans want and need is their foot in the door, and they will be able to destroy SS completely, years down the line!!!

This is fact!

[Patchuli]

15. Petition to sign

online! www.stabenow.senate.gov/socialsecurity

[Itsthetruth]

16. More Than Petitions Are Required

It will take a whole lot more than petitions and e-mails to defend social security.

Has Senator Stabenow commented on the other proposals to restrict and/or cut benefits?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3061139

[Patchuli]

17. Yes that's correct

That is why I also write snail mail to my local newspapers, radio stations and tv stations. I also write my senators and congress members.

I am signing every petition I come across to voice protest against this attempted rip-off. Our voices must be heard. I don't think * is
going to have such an easy sell this time.

You might want to read further on the Senator's page. I haven't finished reading her points.