Lou Dobbs said someting about this is the first step toward Iraq becoming

[hector459]

a "state." Wasn't Iraq a nation under Saddam? Didn't they have ambassadors and representation in the UN before we invaded? What am I missing? Wasn't Saddam a "head-of-state?" Are these people making up history on a day-to-day basis.

[McKenzie]

1. it's in a state now...a sorry state... n/t

[Blue_State_Elitist]

2. It is against the rules

to give anything that Saddam was involved with any sense of legitimacy. For example, if I were to say that perhaps the reason that the Iraqi people didn't revolt was because Saddam was the only thing keeping them alive during the UN sanctions, I would be breaking the rules.

Get in line, follow the chimp!

[Mika]

3. You didn't get the message from up high?

Saddam set the bus routes and garbage pick up schedules for all of Iraq too.

Lou was at his worst today, shilling like a mad hatter.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

4. Wasn't Iraq a nation under Saddam

It was a state when we supported, funded, armed and generally tried to have normal diplomatic relations with it. The revisionists in the whitehouse have scrapped all that history now... it was never a state... and it won't be, not until king george says it is. What a bunch of hypocritical dumbasses.

[NewHampshireDem]

5. Technically, I don't believe Iraq was a state under Hussein

Inasmuch as he did not have control over large sections of Iraq, i.e. those effectively under Kurdish control in the north. To be a state, there has to be one legitimate government.

[tuvor]

6. The 51st state?

[Swamp Rat]

8. Maybe Lou meant "estate" as in something "owned" by Bush&Co.

http://www.flypicture.com/file.cfm?id=5839

[wadestock]

7. Ironically, yes it was a "state"...

and the only way that it could exist as a so called democratic body now would be to divide it governance wise into multiple states.

This so called election is a complete laugh because it doesn't address the fundamental friction between the Sunnis and Shia.

Intelligently proposing a division of power for both would have been the only way to architect the TAKEOVER of the country for our business interests...but even these bad businessmen are so incompetent they couldn't even get that right.

Aside from this, you must remember we had Saddam surrounded. We destroyed more weapons during the 10 years sanctions than Desert Storm. There was no intelligence failure. Saddam was no threat. We could have very effectively kept him surrounded for 20 years into the future and not risked any level of added terrorism.

These are incompetent businessmen that have wasted 300Billion, added to a debt now that we can't even pay down, with interest payments on the debt rising to oblivion.

Our attention should turn away from the so called war, the melodrama of Iraqi governance, and come to grips with the sheer fact that the entire endeavor is unaffordable.

[oneighty]

9. The state of confusion

First confused by the British Empire in the twenties. At which time they cut the country up into four confused states of confusion and then oil was discovered and Kuwait became a treasure.

And all that. And now it is ours all ours.

180

[ElsewheresDaughter]

10. US's 51st state..hey our citizen got to vote in Iraq's election so they...

can now vote in ours, no?

[the_outsider]

11. no middle eastern country is a real state until

a) USA has absolute control over the dictator("elected" or selected) ruling the country
b) US and British oil mulitinationals have total freedom to run their business in those countries without having to employ anyone from the middle east
c) oil reserves are completely privatized and completely open to multinationals
d) the ruling dictator buys a lot of arms from US "defense" companies to fight with another middle-eastern dictator who is also buying arms from the same companies
e) the royal families/elected/selected dictators invest the token money they will get for obedience back into Wall Street instead of improving the lives of their citizens

Until then, they are just land masses (which can be occupied, ruled and divided at will) occupied by godless barbarians...

[JoshK]

12. Outstanding post -- Tip o' the Hat!

That's exactly how it works, all right. :toast: