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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:31 PM
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Does anyone fear the possibility of the US getting "shocked and Awed"
I fear the US getting labeled terrorist and some nation will pre-empt us before we strike them
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:33 PM
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1. With all the cargo containers that DON'T get inspected coming into the US
someone could smuggle in an army
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:33 PM
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2. Did you just wake up
from a bad dream? Just asking.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:35 PM
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4. NO
Just the pit in my stomach getting bigger and bigger

I am not sure we will make it the 3 years and 350 days until @##H is gone


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NeoTraitors Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:37 PM
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6. I have been wondering the same thing
With the tough guy talk of spreading 'freedom' why wouldn't some country pre-empt the pre-empters?

Is your name 'Greenbriar' from the West Virginia resort?
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:41 PM
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8. Never been to West Virginia
just like the name!!!
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:35 PM
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3. What you fear some nation will face reality and declare
that unless and until we have open fair elections the UN will sanction us? Let China Be first then India.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:37 PM
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5. I've often thought our troops are sitting ducks now.
Of course Iran s we could nuke them hard, and that may be the only thing stopping them from attacking Iraq. If this all plays out the way I think it might, where will the accountability lie?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 07:12 PM
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27. Excellent work, jhuth.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:41 PM
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7. Like things get so scary with Bush other countries beg China to invade us?
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:01 PM
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12. How would China invade us?
Don't you think transporting a large army over the Pacific ocean might be a little hard.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:06 PM
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14. Haha!!! Like the oceans kept Iraq safe from the US....
Like the Pacific kept Pearl Harbor safe from Japan 60 years ago.

Newsjock is completely correct about the economic situation regarding China. It will be a cinch to weaken this country whenever they care to. The've got the purse-strings now.



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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:26 PM
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21. If Iraq had nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers..
Then we wouldn't have been able to invade - but they didn't did they?
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:06 PM
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15. The other countries would provide transport, as it would be a coalition
of the scared shitless by the dimwitted boy king.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:24 PM
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20. And how would they get close to the US without getting blasted?
They would be at the mercy of the US navy and airforce.
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:43 PM
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9. Economic shock and awe
It's already started. Hang on for the ride.
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:43 PM
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24. A much more likely scenario than
this silly military "shock & awe" idea.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 07:16 PM
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28. Really.
Once you've done the blood and guts thing you lose the taste for it. There are many ways to skin a rat.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:45 PM
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10. Why would anyone bother, they are all busy
working with each other solidifying deals which exclude the US.

We are doing a pretty good job of destroying ourselves. Why should they waste their time and resources.
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PowerToThePeople Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:50 PM
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11. I actually was gonna start a poll today
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 04:54 PM by PowerToThePeople
Asking what we would do if Europe/China/Other power pre-empted us to stop us from "liberating" any of them that current administration does not agree with.

1) Enlist and fight 'em.
2) Take up arms as citizen and fight(insurgent)
3) Surrender to invader and denounce current American power structure.
4) Take up arms against current government.
5) Other.

I would choose #3 since I believe us to be in the wrong but don't feel that ignorance by much of the public deserves a death sentence.

edit-spelling
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:09 PM
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18. hmmm, I'm thinking. how much time do I have to decide?
If the pre-empting power came in summer, I might have flowers to throw in their paths.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:01 PM
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13. bush has already
set the precedent and legitimized pre-emptive strikes by invading Iraq.

If North Korea were to nuke us, it is their perfect right to do so at this point. They have better evidence against the US (our attack on Iraq) than we had against Iraq (fabricated claims of WMDs, and we DO have WMDs).

And of course we have legitimized torture, the Geneva Convention is now "quaint".



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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:07 PM
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16. Have you forgotten that we have nukes?
Only groups with no geographical ties can afford to attack us. We can wipe entire nations off the map.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:08 PM
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17. I thought you meant "our" government
unleashing shock and awe on some of us "Merikans".

I worry that the techniques of fear and opression we are using abroad will be brought home to deal with demostic dissidents.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 06:11 PM
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26. They've already done that.
in more ways then one, but specifically 9/11.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:18 PM
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19. No, I don't see that ever happening.
How is the hypothetical enemy going to get their planes and ships over here? We'll see them coming from hundreds of miles away. No, we will never be "Shocked and Awed".
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sweetbutterfly Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:28 PM
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22. You mean...
like 9/11? It's already happened.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:36 PM
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23. And 9/11 pre-empted Bush from what? (nt)
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