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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 10:33 PM
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Tsunami pics, questionable.
Anyone else seen/debunked these? Cannot vouch for their validity. Plus, how could the cameraman possibly have survived?

http://coreykoberg.com/Tsunami/

some examples:

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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 10:34 PM
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1. They look...like they're having a good time.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 10:56 PM
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8. no SHIT!
they are way too happy.

This may be weird to say, but they seem to be dressed for cooler weather and more formally and less ceremonially than many of the folks I have seen in the tv footage.
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:04 PM
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10. Ummmm....
I've been in actual disaster situations when the event was happening. Depending on what was going on and the attitude of the people there, I've seen people smile while things were turning to shit. It was only afterwards, when the impact of what had happened actually sank in, that people started freaking out.

I have no trouble with the concept of a bunch of people who were there "sightseeing" smiling while running away from the water.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:19 PM
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13. but they are in work clothes.
they would at least be pissed their khakis were going to get wet?

I don't know.

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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:25 PM
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14. Ever been to a beach being hit by a hurricane?
You see all kinds of really weird shit like that there....people out rubbernecking, or surfing and swimming during the height of the storm. Hell, I went swimming in Va Beach when the eye of Isabel came ashore. It was pretty goofy, but fun in a strange kind of sick way.

People do the damnest things.
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melv Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 10:34 PM
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2. the people in the bottom picture are all smiling
seems fake to me.
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 10:35 PM
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3. Well, why are the people in the second picture laughing?
Fake
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 10:36 PM
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4. the cameraman is obviously elevated
based on the angles. not hard to believe he survived at all. the second shot seem to be a zoom on the first which appears to be shot at a distance AND elevated.

that said, STUNNING shot and I've not seen it before.

in a village in Aceh province...
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 10:54 PM
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5. Fake.
You'd see expressions of HORROR on the people in the bottom pic, not smiling and obviously laughing.
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Uroboros Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 10:54 PM
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6. Fake I think
In the close-up shot it look like blur was added to some of the people's legs to show motion. Look at the guy holding his daughter (now really would you be holding your kid like that and running?). Bad job too.

Also the website says the pics were taken by "my former roommate's co-worker". Well it looks like there are at least 3 different locations in those shots. How exactly was this done by one person?

Also it's weird how some of the shots of the same size (and scene) vary in quality. Which would seem strange if they came from the same camera.

But hey..I could be wrong. :)
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 10:54 PM
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7. Seems faked to me
From what I saw of the videos shown on TV, a tsunami doesn't come in like a big wave, but more like flood waters.
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:00 PM
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9. They are real from a separate event
They are real but not from the tsunami. They are from a tidal surge in china, a completely unrelated event.
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signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:18 PM
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12. Sure LOOKS like just a big wave, but
Edited on Sat Jan-01-05 11:25 PM by signmike
I checked out his other pics -- now I'm not so sure. As far as the people smiling, the guy running with the girl on is shoulders - they were surprised when the water got them. Just thought they were going to get wet.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:30 PM
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16. You got it.
Look at this last pic of the series -- it's all genuine, but it's got nothing to do with what happened last week.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 01:07 AM
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24. Thanks for the input
Yeah, i think you're right.

Check this link.. very dramatic, but not last week's tsunami.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/tsunamis/video/china/

...And answering my own question:
http://www.waveofdestruction.org/photos/gagreflex.html

This site also claims to be a repository for primary source footage of the tsunami as it is discovered.

:).. well actually... :(
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HuskiesHowls Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:14 PM
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11. I thought they were fake, too
but you should see the rest of them he has.
http://www.coreykoberg.com/

While you're there, you may want to check out his 9/11 pictures, too!!
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:57 PM
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17. Nice pictures
It's a shame * and company have diddled away all the good will once felt towards this country. :grr:
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:24 AM
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22. His pics of the world mourning
for us after 9/11 bring up an interesting question for me.

Before 9/11 we hadn't pre-emptively attacked another country. Our president hadn't quite gotten around to giving the middle finger to most of the rest of the world.

So my question is, God forbid, if something else like that were to happen again, would the world's reaction be the same? I have no doubt those wonderful, compassionate people would still feel horribly for the innocents killed in something like that, but I know the world feels VERY differently about the US now.......it kind of begs the question, doesn't it?

And with bush, I feel we are very much in danger of another attack, unfortunately.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:26 PM
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15. "my former roommate's co-worker " ...
A guarantee of quality if ever there was one! My former supervision partner's parole officer's tennis coach say they're nor fake, but misrepresented.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:16 AM
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18. I noticed that.
"These were taken by my former roommate's co-worker who was visiting Thailand."

Considering the speed, locations and area covered by the disaster, the "former roommate's co-worker" sure get's around pretty quick.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:19 AM
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20. I love Kalashnikitty.
eom
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:18 AM
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19. The bottom one is almost certainly fake.
The top one doesn't look much better.
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Andrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:23 AM
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21. The proof is in the pagoda
It's not Thai.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:31 AM
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23. But the 'Donate' link does lead
to Amazon's relief page for contributions to American Red Cross. Perhaps his intentions were honorable.
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