G Gordon Liddy: "Listening To Hitler Made Me Feel A Strength Inside"

[Oilwellian]

Following are excerpts, grouped by subject, from Hari's November 22 article, titled "G Gordon Liddy: Voice of unreason":

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Hitler as an early political hero

The Fuhrer was G Gordon Liddy's first political hero. Liddy was a sickly, asthmatic child when he grew up in Hoboken, New Jersey, in the 1930s. The town was full of ethnic Germans who idolized Hitler. Liddy was made to salute the Stars and Stripes Nazi-style by the nuns at his school; even now, he admits, "at assemblies where the national anthem is played, I must suppress the urge to snap out my right arm." His beloved German nanny taught him that Hitler had -- through sheer will-power -- "dragged Germany from weakness to strength."

This gave Liddy hope "for the first time in my life" that he too could overcome weakness. When he listened to Hitler on the radio, it "made me feel a strength inside I had never known before," he explains. "Hitler's sheer animal confidence and power of will . He sent an electric current through my body." He describes seeing the Nazis' doomed technological marvel the Hindenberg flying over New Jersey as an almost religious experience. "Ecstatic, I drank in its colossal power and felt myself grow. Fear evaporated and in its place came a sense of personal might and power."

A-ha. So, Mr Liddy, do you feel that your early, formative love for Hitler shaped your political behavior later in life? "Oh, no," he says somberly. He renounces Hitler's war against the Jews as "evil" and flaunts his support for Israel's hard right as evidence he is not an anti-Semite. "It was part of my childhood, that's all," he says.

Really? That doesn't seem to match the historical record. In his autobiography, Liddy admits that, after reading the writings of the notorious anti-Semite Charles Lindbergh, Liddy decided to pick his wife on eugenic grounds. He held out for "a tall, fair, powerfully built Teuton." Isn't that behavior at the very least in the shadow of Hitler?" Of course not. Genetics is accepted by everyone." But a Teuton? My dictionary defines it as "descended from an ancient Germanic tribe. Often synonymous with Aryan." He waves his hand and says, "That's how we spoke then. This is political correctness."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200411230004

[pa28]

1. Reminds me of Dr. Strangelove.

The part where he "has to resist" snapping a salute Hitler style.

Well, there is a certain personality type that inhabits the far right wing. The names change but that's all.

[Rush1184]

20. Read "Sex, Lies, and Politics" by Larry Flint

he goes into the mentality of conservatives, and the common traits in their personalities that drive them towards the right wing.

[punpirate]

2. "Ecstatic, I drank in...

... its colossal power and felt myself grow."

Why am I not surprised that Liddy got a hard-on for a fascist gasbag? :eyes:

[Sufi Marmot]

4. He was just on CNN the other day...

blathering in support of (the widely criticized) proposal for secrecy pledges for Department of Homeland Security employees and contractors (ostensibly all in the name of national security). This from the person who advocated violence against government agents. What a hypocrite...

-SM

[deutsey]

8. He also advocated kidnapping and murdering political opponents

during the Nixon years.

What a swell guy. :puke:

[Rush1184]

21. Don't certain 'terrorists' advocate that now?

Funny how the lable changes depending on what side your on.

[Hieronymus]

5. Liddy got a raging one for Junior......

Bush's padded crotch in that flight costume too. He commented on Junior's endowment numerous times after that.:eyes:

[chicagojoe]

3. It's characters like Liddy that give our society a bad name.

Let's do what is necessary to save our society.

[charlie]

6. One thing about Liddy

is that he never bullshits about what he is. No hiding behind a benign public facade, no blowing smoke about being a "compassionate" conservative, he revels in being a bloodthirsty authoritarian bastard. His perverse honesty makes him a shade less weaselly than others of his ilk (Kissinger, Perle, Wolfowitz, Limbaugh, Cheney, Dubya, and on and on...)

[chicagiana]

19. That we can appreciate ...

I a way himself and Pat Buchanan are a cut above. They're not "pretending" to be nice. They're cruel, and they let you know it.

[sattahipdeep]

7. Waffen SS

"No. What I'm saying is we had better embrace the horror of war. If you aren't tough, if you don't pull
out all the stops, you lose." So all of the conventions created in the wake of the Second World War - the
Geneva Conventions, the very concept of war crimes - these are all just polite fictions to be crumpled?
"Of course. The Seventh Infantry Division in 1945 used to drive their tanks around with the
heads of defeated Japanese solders displayed proudly on the front. That's what we need to
train our present-day soldiers to be." Returning to Vietnam, he adds that the French -- the colonial
power preceding the Americans -- succeeded in Vietnam because "they were using the Foreign Legion,
then manned almost completely by veterans from the most disciplined, ruthlessly efficient practitioners of
all-out warfare in history: the Waffen SS."

Kabul vigilante appeal under way

Three Americans jailed for up to 10 years for torturing Afghans
and running a private jail in Kabul have begun their appeal.

....
Branded by the US as a bounty hunter, Idema has said his work
was approved by Afghan and US authorities.

....
The Americans' US lawyers were not present at the hearing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4031851.stm

Get this...
The Americans are serving their sentences in Kabul's Pul-e
Charkhi prison. They have a heated and carpeted cell with
satellite television.

[seemslikeadream]

24. Our man in Afghanistan - Sgt. Idema

DEBKAfile reporting a truck bomb at US Embassy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Rivals Gang Up on Karzai, Seek a Champion
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
'Petroleum lures dogs of war to Africa'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
US vigilante says saved Bagram from bomb attack
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Man accused of running private Afghan jail had U.S. letter
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
UN rights expert berates US on Afghan detentions
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Man arrested by FBI : "I was close to capturing bin Laden"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Round two for Kabul's trial of year
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Americans on trial in Afghanistan get FBI files
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
U.S. urged to protect Idema's rights
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Tables turn on US conman waging his own weird war on terror
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Idema role: rogue or U.S. agent?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
9-11 attacks spurred Idema to action
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Crusader confronts a world of trouble
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Wild-card charged in Afghan imprisonments has murky history with media, go
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Family seeking info on Fortuna man arrested in Afghanistan
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Rumsfeld knew all about me, says American 'jailer' held in Kabul
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Outsourcing War Crimes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
The Case of Keith Idema
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Dispatch From Afghanistan
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Americans accused of torturing Afghans in private jail go on trial
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Pride, prison shadow Idema
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
'Freelance' US fighter identified
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Americans Arrested in Kabul Abused Prisoners in Private Jail, Officials Say
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


For working links see this thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=9558&mesg_id=18255&page=


:pals: sattahipdeep

[peekaloo]

9. Somebody smack him with a shovel, please.

But I guess a story on American Nazis is apt.


Of course listening to the current wanna-be in the Blight House makes it hard for one to suppress the urge to make an underarm fart noise.


p.s. Great screen name former Oaf!

[htuttle]

10. What an insane freak

And I don't use that term very often.

[Octafish]

16. American NAZI

Joseph Trento in "The Secret History of the CIA" documents how Dulles, Murphy, Angleton and much of the establishment got bamboozled and co-opted by the NAZIs they enlisted, but also by the commies who had bamboozled and co-opted the NAZIs, as well.

In G Gordon Liddy, we have the underside, literally in that picture, of this beast.

PS: FUCK YOU, BUSH!

[Lydia Leftcoast]

22. Reminds me of an over-the-top homophobe who

used to post on a professional mailing list that I frequent.

Finally someone Googled his photograph and found that his website contained a photo of him posing in his underwear.

Liddy's photo just reminds me of that fellow, that's all. :-)

[Oilwellian]

25. There it is!

I've seen this photo before. Thanks for posting it. It's rather fitting to be a part of this thread.

[htuttle]

26. It's become a compulsion with me

If I see a Liddy thread, I feel the need to provide a more complete picture of the man...

:evilgrin:

[robbedvoter]

11. Reminds me of Arnie who made similar statements only in 70s

Then he bought all copies of Pumping iron off the market....

[neebob]

12. Why are guys like Gordon Liddy and Ollie North not living obscure lives

under assumed names? To me that's just more proof that we're screwed.

[robbedvoter]

15. because Moral Values reule this nation!

[AngryOldDem]

13. He writes extensively about his fascination with Nazis

in his autobiography "Will," as he discusses his childhood.

Does he still have a radio show?

[robbedvoter]

14. Yup and is Al Franken's good friend!

[w4rma]

17. Anyone who doesn't think they rigged the election after reading that is

naive.

"I wanted to bomb the Red River dykes {sic: dikes}. It would have drowned half the country and starved the other half. There would have been no way the Viet Cong could have operated if we had the will-power to do that."

[chicagiana]

18. He's not a Nazi ...

... even though he believes the same types of things. No the advocation of violently killing federal agents is NOT an indication of an inherintly violent personality that values blood more than laws or society.

</sarcasm>

Ya know, Liddy is a little funny at times. As far as right wingers go, he's easier to listen to (for research) than a Hannity or Limbaugh.

But I remember him talking about the unibomber. He was critical of the unibomber's brother for turning him in because he was "family". In Liddy's world, he would have "taken care of it".

You see, being a "rat" is the highest sin in Liddy's world. He lives in a secret "underground" world where no one tells their secrets. How that is distinguishable from being a gangster, I don't know.

[oneighty]

23. Salute the Stars and Stripes Nazi style

The Nuns made you do it? Gee,Gordon, all Americans saluted the stars and stripes Nazi style in those days and did so right up to Pearl Harbor day as I recall. We were also required to recite the lords prayer about which I did not have a clue.

I was in second grade at the time.

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