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seaj11 Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 01:55 PM
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Watch out, we're becoming less than human.
These extremist religious nut jobs never fail to amaze me with their lying, their misunderstanding, and their thick-skulledness.

The Inevitable Result of Secular Humanism
http://www.christianpost.com/dbase/editorial/220/section/1.htm
Friday, Nov. 12, 2004 Posted: 10:39:08AM EST

Secular humanism is that philosophy of life that emphasizes a worldview based on naturalism: the belief that the physical world is all that is real. It rejects theistic morality and supposedly defers to scientific inquiry. To a secular humanist, there is no divine purpose being worked out in the universe by Deity. Life has value and meaning only as we create and develop it. Being free from supernaturalism, the secular humanist opposes any absolute standards. Ethics are entirely situational and individualistic.

Save for a few instances where Christian influence still prevails, secular humanism has practically replaced the Judeo-Christian religious premise of American jurisprudence, government, and education. Consistent with the tenants of secular humanism, today U.S. courts have generally moved from a substantive definition of religion (where the religion must affirm a transcendent deity) to a functional definition of religion that denies the existence of God. Lawmakers largely insist on keeping God and pubic policy separate. And the public school system is the main vehicle for the promotion of humanism via evolutionary teaching.

Uh...wasn't our nation about the separation of church and state, since the First Amendment? And yes, the story was published as saying "pubic policy."

<snip>

Most recently, I've noticed something very interesting about our culture. Much of human behavior today is justified or explained in bestial terms. In other words, in various articles submitted by scientists, man is described as merely an animal. His perversions, so it's contended, are not really moral failures, but instinctual and natural responses. For instance, one article I read said that bottle-nosed dolphins are known to gang rape dolphin females, and adult dolphins sometimes take their young in their beaks and whack them to death. The implication of this article was quite clear: Given humanity's animal ancestry, gang rape among human beings is at least understandable and infanticide in certain situations is justified.

Oh, yes, that's exactly what that article was telling us. Boy, those dolphins are going to hell.

Similar arguments that refer to animals are often used to justify homosexuality. Brian McNaught in his video On Being Gay, states, "In every species of mammal, from the sea horse to the baboon, there is homosexual behavior, whether in captivity or in the wild." Such a statement is sheer nonsense and cannot be scientifically demonstrated. Nevertheless, it goes to show this line of thinking, which assumes the way of the animal kingdom is a proper model for human behavior.

"Sheer nonsense and cannot be scientifically demonstrated"? Do you think he just made that up?

Such assertions are nothing less than a form of madness -- moral insanity -- the inevitable result of a totally naturalistic approach to life. Either man looks up to God or he looks down like the animals. Like Nebuchadnezzar, without an acknowledgement of God, humanity becomes beastlike in its behaviors. One might even rightly argue that unless mankind recognizes the Divine, he actually becomes worse than animals.

I think he already is.

Dr. John Gerstner, professor emeritus of Pittsburgh Theological Seminary, was once teaching on the depravity of man, and to make his point he compared men and women to rats. After he finished his address, there was time for questions, and a member of the audience who was offended by his comparison asked the distinguished professor to apologize. "I do apologize," said Dr. Gerstner. "I apologize profusely. The comparison was terribly unfair ... to the rats." He then went on to say that what a rat does, it does completely out of instinct. But human beings have the unique capability of choice. We can deny our various passions and impulses to do things that glorify God and aid our fellowman. Too often, however, we make a conscious decision to do just the opposite and behave worse than "the beasts of the field."

"Too often, (I) make a conscious decision to do just the opposite and (I) behave worse than 'the beasts of the field.'" "Wait, you wrote 'I' instead of 'we'!" "Oh, yeah. Oops."

I realize some will say my remarks are overreaching -- an exaggeration. But it is true, nonetheless, the rejection of God in our culture has left us looking to the beasts and becoming increasingly like them. Indeed, in our denial of the Creator and His ways, we have suppressed the truth and worshipped the creature. In some respects, we are even worse than animals. And left to ourselves there can be no end to our grim descent into the abyss of moral chaos.

Don't you mean, left to idiots like you?

<snip>

Rev. Mark H. Creech
Christian Post Columnist
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stlchic Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 01:58 PM
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1. "Secular humanism is that philosophy of life...
...that emphasizes a worldview based on naturalism: the belief that the physical world is all that is real. It rejects theistic morality and supposedly defers to scientific inquiry. To a secular humanist, there is no divine purpose being worked out in the universe by Deity. Life has value and meaning only as we create and develop it."


And this is bad because......?

:shrug:
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:03 PM
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3. Because you must believe
in the spooky sky-wizard, or you will clearly have no idea how to behave like a kind, giving, non-judgemental, un-selfish *do-unto-others* etc human being. Obviously. :eyes:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 01:59 PM
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2. "worse than animals"
Yes, in some respects we're worse than animals. Every time we haul out that book and use it to justify killing someone else.
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Unstuck In Time Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:18 PM
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4. "Ethics are entirely situational and individualistic."
These is one of their central memes about us.

It's a lie, of course. But it's also the thing they're guilty of themselves, projected onto us, as usual.

Really, take just about any charge the fundies and the wingers fling at us, and compare it to the facts. They're guilty of the charge themselves, almost every time.
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buckettgirl Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:20 PM
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5. Those dolphins are going to hell! LMFAO!!!
Sorry, I loved that bit of sarcasm! I think that is the funniest thing I have heard all day! B-) :silly:
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:29 PM
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6. Yeah, we're so much better than animals
Animals don't believe in a bearded man in the clouds who tells them whom to hate.
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:50 PM
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7. I guess people are just too stupid and or lazy to determine right/wrong
and are happy having ethics dictated to them, even when it's clear that the dictator is unethical.
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