Has the "more votes than registered voters" claim been debunked...

[Ladyhawk]

...for all precincts in Ohio? If so, we need to make sure everyone on DU knows it. We have to stop perpetuating this if it is a lie. Let's not be even unwitting Republicans. :)

Also, can someone give me the website that explains the discrepancy?

(I still think that there was fraud, BTW. There is other evidence.)

LH

[noamnety]

1. Here's the website

http://pages.ivillage.com/americans4america/id20.html

The debunk was for Cuyahoga, specifically.

[papau]

2. and the basic math that made for the turnout report being in error

For example, Bay Village is in the 10th congressional district, the 16th house district, and the 24th state senate district. 10/16/24 is what is known as a ballot grouping or ballot combination. In even-numbered years, Cuyahoga County's BOE software counts votes by these ballot groupings.

In that ballot grouping are the communities that share the same 10/16/24 designation. That includes cities like Rocky River, Westlake, Fairview Park, and North Olmsted.

So the total ballots cast for Bay Village takes the actual number of ballots cast, plus all the absentee ballots that were cast from those other communities belonging to the 10/16/24 grouping. That's why "ballots cast" is so high.

The software throws in every absentee ballot for that particular 10/16/24 grouping in every community that is part of the grouping. That explains why when you also look at Rocky River, Westlake, Fairview Park, and North Olmsted, the number of" ballots cast" in those cities exceeds "registered" voters as well. (Only Westlake's isn't higher - but it is 25,000 to 25,000).

The reason the numbers are inflated under "Ballots cast" is because the number for Bay Village includes the absentee ballots cast in Bay Village, Rocky River, Westlake and North Olmsted.

[Ladyhawk]

4. Thanks.

[Woody Box]

3. For clarification

To cut it short:

The exceeding votes were absentee votes which were falsely counted multiple times, at least on the website of BoE Cuyahoga County.

The confusion was created by the peculiar way the BoE allocated the absentee ballots to their respective cities.

The absentee ballots are counted and summarized per district, not per city. In some cases, the total absentee votes of the district were added to every city of the district, thereby multiplying their number. For instance, there are four cities of the same district getting 9948 additional absentee votes each.

In Cuyahoga County, ca. 80000 absentee ballots were cast, but an additional 200000 "artificial" votes were created by this process.

No smoking gun, but a very strange data artefact.