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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:00 AM Original message |
Poll question: The Democratic Party Should Be More Open to 'Other' Views on Choice |
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dhinojosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
1. Choice? What Choice? Peanut Butter? |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Creamy or chunky? |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
32. No no no - Original or Extra Crispy! |
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mhr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
2. We Can Always Listen - Does Not Mean We Will Do Anything About It |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
22. Fuck, NO! |
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mhr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:26 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Fuck, Yes - By Listening We Might Learn A Little More About What |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Who cares what makes them tick? |
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mhr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Understanding Your Enemies Is One Aspect Of A Good Offense |
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AgadorSparticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. it's the second rule of war: know your opponent. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
75. I'm pretty sure already what makes them tick... |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
3. What does "open to" mean? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:03 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. What do you think it means? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:08 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. It could mean many things |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:12 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. See this article |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. So by "open", you mean |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:16 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. What do you think??? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. nevermind |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I'm interested in what most people think of it. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. It could either mean: |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. maybe the poll should have been worded |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
31. I agree, I don't know what "open to" means. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. How much faith do you have that anti-choice voters can be reached |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
5. you're either for a woman's right to choose or you're not |
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serryjw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 12:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
81. I 100% agree with you ........ |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-18-04 02:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
82. Disagree |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
6. which other views? |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. So Very Well Stated there Bill! (McBlueState) |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:11 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. thanks! |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
8. There are only two views. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
9. Choice alone shouldn't be any individual's reason for not voting Dem, but |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
10. that is like saying we should be more tolerant of intolerance... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
11. "should be open to PEOPLE with other views"? or "should be open to having |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:11 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. It's based on a a sentence in an article in the NY Times today |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Does the article say who said what? Are the religious leaders the ones |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:20 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. No, they're not the only ones. Accommodationists like Al From |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:29 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Al From says a lot of crazy shit that doesn't matter. He likes Lieberman |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. But Al From gets quoted in a front page story in the Times. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:55 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Says a great deal about the Times. |
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AgadorSparticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. isn't that something...they keep abortion front and center but we are |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
30. I think we should reach out |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. I don't know what reaching out to anti-choice people means, really. |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Yeah you're probably right |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
74. As I read your post... |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. I remember that exchange. She telegraphed her lack of interest |
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George_S (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. Thank you, a post that makes sense. |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. "...say for an 8th month pregnancy just for the hell of it..." |
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George_S (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 11:04 PM Response to Reply #51 |
80. It's not my fault they have better spin. |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #48 |
65. but who gets to decide whether the termination at 8 mths is |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #48 |
69. I can't believe this stupidity! |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
34. Agreed..... |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:32 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. They're Going After Birth Control Too |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. no I'm not saying to ban abortion... |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Prior to Roe V. Wade |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
70. Could you please point out some ways.... |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #34 |
53. You too have bought into the RW spin on choice.... |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. I wasn't refering to late term abortions.... |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
73. I was referring to your call... |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
58. uh...doctors perform all sorts of procedures "on demand"... |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
62. Wrong. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
39. Federal funding should be open to debate. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:53 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Oh, so we relegate a simple medical procedure to those rich enough |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. If we treated abortion as a simple medical procedure... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Well, that was what Roe v Wade was intended to do |
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MattWinMO (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Roe v. Wade.... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Thank you, that is exactly what I've been saying! |
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Nestea (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
44. NO |
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WoodrowFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
49. yes |
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itsrainingkarma (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
52. i'm "pro-life" |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. I am pro life too..pro all life..especailly the lives of the already born |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
72. are you sure you're in the right place? |
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meow2u3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:58 PM Response to Reply #52 |
76. As an consistent life advocate... |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:10 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. That is a brilliant strategy! |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
54. Since when does the word CHOICE mean not being |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. Excellent point! |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
59. I think we should find common ground with them. |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
60. Hey, that's the ticket! Let's just bail on everything we believe in, and |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
61. We're already open to other views |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
63. What 'other' views on choice are there? |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Not everyone is a single-issue voter, like those ignorant Republicans. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
68. let's see.... "choice/no choice".........yup, that's a tough one. |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
71. Maybe there is a nuance here that I'm missing but... |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-04 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
79. If by "open" you mean |
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