A look into Bob Jones University

[CTLawGuy]

http://www.troyandjessica.com/index.php?pid=25

This site was created by two BJU alums to show entering students what life at BJU was like.

Id say its VERY interesting, reading the social life section especially.

here's a snip:

BJU Social Life Q&A

My, have I gotten a lot of neat questions! Here are the highlights:

Is physical contact between the sexes permitted?
A: Not on the general campus. It is an unwritten--and still upheld!--tradition that couples shall not display overt physical contact: hand-holding, hugging, kissing, arms around each other's shoulders, etc. However, on dating outings and other rare occasions, the hand-holding regulation is easily suspended. For example, it's assumed and expected that a gentleman may offer his arm to a lady during the rare icy days on campus. While outside, of course! But don't get carried away, literally or figuratively. Jessica was called down, but not "penalized," when I led her by the arm to her dormitory after a spring opera. I was not a student at the time, and it was my bright (dumb) idea.


May dorm student couples date off-campus?
Yes, but "certain restrictions apply." The major items are:
undergraduate students under 23 must be chaperoned by a woman or a married couple. The chaperone must be faculty, staff, or graduate students of BJU.
3 hour time limit per off-campus date, unless the woman's parents are chaperoning: in which case, this time limit is lifted. If the man's parents are chaperoning, the 3 hour limit still applies. Note! This restriction was dropped as of the 1999-2000 school year.
the location must be specified and approved in advance by the Dean's Office.
it is assumed that you will abide by all standard BJU social regulations while off-campus.

May a dorm student's visiting parents chaperone a date?
A: Yes. If "her" parents are chaperoning, the 3 hour time limit is waived. The 3 hour time limit is now dropped.

[loveable liberal]

1. party party party party party party!!!!

[tanyev]

2. Sign me up!

Where in the world do they find enough 18 year olds who want to go there to keep the college going?

[CTLawGuy]

3. They put the "Fun" in fundamentalism

they get fundie 18 year olds to go there, which is why I dont understand why they need all the rules. Why would fundies break any rules?

[tanyev]

7. Those rules really go beyond anything

any of the fundie kids I've known would be willing to put up with. Maybe the kids here in Plano are contaminated by being so affluent in addition to being fundie.

[Hippo_Tron]

13. My 16 year old friend is a fundie and would die at a place like this...

He gets loaded almost every weekend and smokes pot quite regularly.

[donheld]

4. Well they do find them

need we any more proof a good share of the US is stoopid?

[napi21]

5. Believe me, this is real! There's a lot more but it's all the same!

I remember when I was first relocated to Greenville and I was working with a realtor to find a house. She was telling me about some of the really nice things in Greenville...places to see and things to do. She told me about the BJU campus, and how beautiful it was, and a very nice place to take a nice relaxing walk. "BUT, as a woman, you can never got there if you are wearing anything but a dress or skirt and blouse of the proper length, and NEVER slacks or jeans!" Being a dumb Yankee, I asked why? Oh, out of respect for the values of the University, she said.

I drove past that campus many times in the six years that I lived there, but I never entered.

[et in Arcadia ego...]

6. Christ...they make the Amish look like swingers.

FORBIDDEN=:pals:

[Sugarbleus]

17. LOL!!

how true!

[GreenPartyVoter]

8. Ah, the old "ray of light" rule. Glad that's well behind me now.

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[dflprincess]

9. I love that they don't trust the guy's parents to be chaperons

for more than 3 hours. What do they think his parents will let them do that her parents won't?

[tanyev]

10. Sell her to a slavery ring?

[GreenPartyVoter]

11. It's funny, but there are similar rules in Islam. Something to the effect

men from the wife's family are allowed into the home if the husband is not there, but men from his family are not. What made this even weirder was that my neighbor, who told me about this rule, is married to her cousin, so technically his family _is_ her family, at least on one side.

Hard to keep up with all those tricky rules!

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[AnIndependentTexan]

16. cool we can marry cousins now? Is marrying sisters coming back in too?

Also what would the rule be if my mother lost my father and then my mother became my wife? Oh the possibilities are endless. :evilfrown:

[Sugarbleus]

19. ROFL!!! Stop!

you're killing me here....Bbbbbahahahahahah!

[Reverend_Smitty]

12. ya can't listen to any music post 1940 but....

My CD collection? Well, maybe...
BJU Music standards, brief version: If it was composed before 1940 and is performed in the musical style and original instrumentation of its date of composition, it's probably fine. Anything after that could be deemed unacceptable. Seriously. BJU holds very high standards for all fine arts and music--music is a real stickler for some students. What about Christian contemporary artists like Amy Grant, Sandi Patti, Mark Lowry, Steven Green, Michael W. Smith, Twila Paris, Petra, D.C. Talk, 4 Him?
Nope. Basically, if you ever heard it on your local Christian pop station, forget it. Leave them all home during your BJU educational career; after that, think about it and prayerfully set your own standards.

There are many receivable radio stations in the BJU listening area, but only 3 of them are permitted that I am aware of; 2 of the 3 are run by BJU, and the last one's the local talk radio affiliate, WORD. (Hey, Dittoheads, you won't go through Rush Limbaugh withdrawal!)

whew! it's good to know that the true christians can get their daily Oxyrush fix

[bobbieinok]

14. comments posted at this site

http://www.troyandjessica.com/index.php?pid=31


Everyone not personally familiar with the fundamentalist culture should spend some time at this site.....for some insight into the mindset of this culture....

From my experience, much of what is said here accurately reflects the attitudes of the religious right that I have seen and heard every day.

Also, from reading around at this site, nearly everything is from Troy's viewpoint. To get some of you going, read his view of 'what she wants.'

[jmowreader]

15. How you get sent to BJU

There are two classes of students at a place like this...

1) the ones who actually believe this crap will make them a better person

and

2) the ones whose parents tell them they can go to any college they want to, but Mom and Dad will pay for them to go to BJU.

The biggest drawback to sending your kid to BJU: it is not accredited. Which means your degree carries the same weight as one from any diploma mill. Oh, and you'll have to send him to be deprogrammed or you'll come home one night to find him handling rattlesnakes in the middle of the living room.

You could send your kid to Campbell (Norman Wiggins didn't allow students to dance until the mid-1980s, and they still have daily room inspections) and have him get the same kind of indoctrination BJU offers but at a school that's accredited. Hell, I think Liberty's accredited too, and the restrictions there are just as bad.

BJU makes no sense whatsoever.

[mitchum]

18. While I was growing up in Greenville, I had lots of fun with lots of...

young ladies from category 2. Nothing beats the libido of a young lady who has been sent to such a sexually repressive enviroment :)

[nikraye]

20. Bush & Ashcroft embraced by BJU

BJU is well-known for its racist, anti-Catholic philosophy but that didn't stop Bushbaby from making it his first campaign stop in the 2000 S. Carolina primary. So while Rove was busy sliming McCain through a sleazy phone-calling blast, Bush spoke before the BJU faculty and student body:

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Bush "said he would seek 'compassionate results.' His compassion is irrelevant when out of all the colleges in South Carolina, he chose the most racist and homophobic. --2/9/00

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More about Bob Jones University, where George W. Bush gave his "I am a conservative" speech this week. In the '80's Bob Jones Jr. said that "all the Popes are demon-possessed" and "the greatest danger we face today" is Pope John Paul II. In fact, he said, "the papacy is the religion of antichrist and is a satanic system." As for its present-day interracial dating ban, "there is a held belief from way back in the institution that that was biblically wrong."

more: http://www.bushnews.com/blacks.htm

Asscroft, shortly after Bush appointed him Attorney General, also gave a speech to BJU's student body. It reads like a sermon from the pulpit. But, then, would we expect any less from the very Rev. Asscroft?

<snip>
Unique among the nations, America recognized the source of our character as being Godly and eternal, not being civic and temporal. And because we have understood that our source is eternal, America has been different. We have no king but Jesus.

more: http://www.refuseandresist.org/resist_this/012601ashcroft.html

[sonicx]

21. Look at the "About Jessica" page

<<Troy here! Before I let Jessica talk about herself>>

<<I'll let Jessica tell you more...>


oh dear...