The SPINNING Right Now On Exit Polls - Watch the Newshour!

[Stephanie]

They are spinning their asses off.

The exit polls were skewed because the Kerry voters were more enthusiastic and so more of them agreed to be polled.

I think we need to keep the poll more private, so these numbers are not released to the public. - my paraphrase

Oh, yeah! They want to privatize the exit polls, so you will never get to see them until after the race is called.

They said that Kerry was so confident about the exit polls that he went to work with his speech writer. And that Bush decided not to appear at his campaign's rally and went home instead. But LO!, those polls were ALL WRONG.

That is the spin.

[BayStateBoy]

1. What is there spin answer for the fact that the exit polls and the

voting tallies corresponded very closely in all states except those using BBV, most especially FL & OH?

[Stephanie]

3. That question did not arise on this program.

Nor will it ever, guaranteed.

[lightbulb]

6. Ummmm.... maybe Kerry supporters were WAY more enthusiastic

in states using black box voting. They were just so excited about the mystery of it all.

:puke:

[lancdem]

2. That's funny

because weren't we told ad nauseam before the election that Bush's supporters were more enthusiastic than Kerry's?

[Stephanie]

4. We need to have our own exit polls.

We need to have exit polls conducted by a university or a trustworthy publication. If they are going to privatize it we have to conduct our own.

[jdj]

16. um, and after the election as well eom

[Bluebear]

5. Wow, they love the exit polls about "moral values" though!

nt

[jefferson_dem]

7. Anyone know of literature that validates the reliability of exit polls?

We know of the scattered VNS problems in 2000 and 2002, but by and large, haven't they been pretty accurate in reflecting the actual vote outcome over the years?

[ElementaryPenguin]

8. Tony Blair says he went to bed believing Kerry was the new President!

That's how much weight people have traditionally given these polls. Carter conceded to Reagan based exclusively on the exit polls. Bush could have done the same.

[shelley806]

9. Who knows how to get all exit polling data before editing?.....n/t

[Julien Sorel]

10. This is bullshit:

The exit polls were skewed because the Kerry voters were more enthusiastic and so more of them agreed to be polled.


They are supposed to correct for people who refuse to respond to the polls. It also doesn't explain why exit polls have always been more or less correct in the past. Aren't there "enthusiastic" supporters of every candidate in every election? If only these shitheads would at least try to make it look like they can think.

[Stephanie]

12. Right. They stand right in your face and tell you day is night.

It doesn't matter what they say, only how many times they say it.

[sandnsea]

13. And early voters

I've heard that one too, Republicans all came out after they got off work and Dems don't work so were over-represented early in the day. Gee, wouldn't we have noticed a herd of white male Christians descending on the polls? It's total bullshit. They've been right for decades, until 2000.

[jdj]

18. I think we need to use the sign in lists

nationwide.

of everyone.

or at least the swing states.

find out if those numbers are anywhere near the vote total. I bet they aren't I bet they lack a few million.

[DELUSIONAL]

11. My my my but Rove has really been busy getting the media to

repeat HIS spin on the exit polls -- while fogging the real issue of the fact that at the very same time the polls are being dismissed as inaccurate.

There is a cognitive disconnect here -- there is a collective conspiracy to support and hide the VOTE theft fraud.

This is why I turned off the TV 2.5 years ago and am not tempted to turn it on again.

There is a reason TV is also called the IDIOT BOX.

[Stephanie]

14. You guys should watch this - probably starting now for midwest

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[Stephanie]

15. Try to watch it West Coast

They are trying desperately to explain away the anomaly in the exit polls. For the SECOND presidential election in a row.

[LisaL]

17. If we had more enthusiastic voters-

and we registered more people than republicans-how the hell did republicans found all these extra voters?
Who apparently went out in droves to vote for Bush but were not enthusiastic to tell the world?:eyes:

[Generator]

23. I had the same exact thought!

Fired up to vote, hating gays, fearing the terrorists, but afraid to say they voted for Bush.

Even a respected DU'er bought it and posted, "They voted in droves to say they didn't want John Kerry, not that they wanted Bush."

Bullshit.

[ithacan]

19. what absolute BULLSHIT!!!!

Exit polls are extremely accurate.

The US demands exit polls be used in newly democratic countries to check the accuracy of official vote counts!

This is outrageous.

[Stephanie]

21. We've come full circle, friend!

How long ago was it we started discussing this? Two years?

[ithacan]

25. yes

the only good thing: No electronic machines in NY

According to legislative aides in the assembly who I spoke to much earlier in the year, there is NO WAY NY will go with Diebold, given the lack of ethic of the company and its owner/chair...

Well, let's hope we get Spitzer as governor. Maybe he can put together a coalition of northeastern states to protect the social safety net that is about to be ripped to shreds for the country as a whole.

[jdj]

20. what's most ironic is that they are THEIR polls

these are polls the media use to call elections during prime time before everyone goes to bed, and fuck it up for the people in the west.

I'd LOVE for them to not be able to call elections til the next day, their ought to be a fucking LAW that they can't open up their traps til the last poll in the last state has closed, or for two hours after that at least,

[Generator]

22. I want to say something

Maybe it's nothing but the thought came into my head WHY are they still talking about the exit polls?

It's like those that spend a lot of time talking about God not existing. Yeah, but why are you even saying the word God then?

Because it's in your mind. Because it's what you are obsessed with. And why? Because it doesn't fit. Your mind is spinning literally because it is the canary in the coalmine (or pick another crap metaphor) no maybe that is it-it's the only thing that doesn't make sense.

Oh that and the KERRY people were fired up, which is why you would expect them to have GOTV.

And excuse me-if you only polled the Dems, then the exit polls would be what 85% for Kerry? The exit polls must include a number of both parties otherwise it would be meaningless.

[West Coast Democrat]

24. Exactly! The media believed those polls for hours on election day!

It will be in the back of their minds for a long time. There's no way that the near certainty they felt of a Bush* loss on election day will just go away without a thought.