Most audited election in history - 2004 - U are 234th in line to get stat

[junker]

We had a thought that if the bbv machines had a fudge factor built in, it must, given the nature of computers, exhibit determinism and therefore could be isolated from the actual results and the algorithm deduced.

So we tried to get the national election results by state by precinct for all elections in a csv file for analysis.

Can't find the critter anywhere...so we thought, what the hell. There are only 50 states + guam so why not just go to each site and get them by state....only not available yet.

So we decide to call the various heads of elections in the various states....usually stashed under the Sec of State office in each state...


we had contacted only 4 states when we called NV. There we were informed that we are the 234th NON-Press affiliated requestor...and no not available, but they will get back to us.

Then the clerk that we spoke to said two things of interest....first, that not all counties in NV had reported. AND that given the requestor rate, this will end up being the most audited election in history.

So....we wait.

[Dogmudgeon]

1. An agonizing wait

But it's vital that we exercise patience.

--bkl

[glitch]

2. Very good news - votes still being counted, and absentees still in

the mail, I checked WA and it can't even finalize turnout yet!

[Leilani]

3. Good to know people are looking!

EOM

[ramblin_dave]

4. Getting data is not the same as auditing

Auditing would mean examining the voter verified paper record against the published vote totals. Nevada has touchscreens with a paper record so this is actually possible. Does Nevada intend to conduct any such audit by hand counting some percentage of precincts?

[sarahlee]

5. Call for Public Hearings on the Voting Irregularities in Ohio

Friends, Community Leaders, Journalists, and Elections experts,

The League of Pissed Off Voters and the Ohio Citizens Alliance for Secure Elections (CASE-OH) are calling for public hearings to investigate November 2nd voting irregularities and voter suppression in Ohio.

Local citizens are asking for statewide and national support to hold these hearings Friday 11/12 and Saturday 11/13 in Columbus, OH. We want to hear testimony from voters throughout the state who experienced or witnessed voter disenfranchisement, voter intimidation, or instances of systematic voter suppression. We hope to expose the systemic undermining of our democratic process and assess how to respond to racial disenfranchisement and suppression of voters. John Kerry may have conceded this election, but we will not concede our right to a fair and equitable democratic process.

This is a preliminary call for support to you and other leaders who can help make the first crucial steps happen.

What we are doing now: 1) Building a coalition that, we hope, will expand to national organizations such as the NAACP, MoveOn, and Election Protection Coalition; 2) Working to secure a room in the Ohio Statehouse or the Franklin County Board of Elections for next Friday and Saturday; 3) Raising money to bring in experts such as Lynn Landes (“In These Times”), Bev Harris (www.blackboxvoting.org), Greg Palast, and others; and 4) Getting announcements out to the community to gather those who can offer public testimony regarding their experiences at the polls.

What you can do: 1) Email or call us to let us know that you and/or your organization will be a part of the coalition to sponsor this public hearing, and that you’ll spread the word through your networks; and 2) Contribute to the fund to bring in key speakers/experts for the public hearing, as well as to cover costs for reserving rooms, hiring stenographers to transcribe the hearings, etc.

Here are a few articles on the types of voter suppression/disenfranchisement that we are hoping to expose:

Kerry Won. Greg Palast, Tompaine.com
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/kerry_won_.php

Did Kerry Concede Too Soon? Bob Fitrakis, The Free Press
http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/981

Was the Ohio Election Honest and Fair? Institute for Public Accuracy
http://www.accuracy.org/press_releases/PR110304.htm


In peace,

Amy Kaplan and Jonathan Meier
The League of Pissed Off Voters
[email protected]
[email protected]

Cell 248-943-2335 614-405-2160

www.indyvoter.org www.caseohio.org
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I can't start new topics so can someone get this up?

[LiberalFighter]

6. Here is a source for 2000 Election state by state - precinct by precinct

Federal Elections Project 2000 Election Data By State

Maybe they requested the 2004 data too.