What the h#%l?? - Nader looking for a 34 state recount??

[DancingBear]

Got wind of this second-hand, but I think it was on Randi's show today.

If this is true - great news! This is what 'ol Ralphie does best - and he'll be able to get media coverage.

Confirmation, anyone?

[OneMoreDemocrat]

1. If he can get New Hampshire recounted............

he can open the WHOLE CAN OF WORMS.

[Bucky]

7. nice

It's not over until every vote is counted

[catbert836]

2. OMG!!!!!

Awesome!

[Union Thug]

3. Yep, it was on Randi. The rep from BBV said it.

See, Ralph isn't all bad! =) As Randi said, this is the kind of thing he's really good at. That whole presidential candidate thing was not a shining moment.

[txindy]

4. But is that really good news?

If he does this, people will roll their eyes and think it's far too much to ask. Then, when we want something smaller, they'll brush us off as jumping on the bandwagon and saying it was already decided after Nader's demand -- no recounts. Of course, we have the recount laws on our side, provided we can prove that 'mistakes' **ahem** have brought the final tally to within a certain percentage needed to trigger a recount.

[glitch]

8. My first thought - here to gum up the real works. Ralph to the rescue

of the GOP yet again? His service is never done.
I'll wait to jump on this particular bandwagon.

[Chili]

5. that's what I heard too

...34 states, 3000 counties. I couldn't hear all of it, I was on the phone with a friend asking if she has access to a fax machine, LOL! I don't right now, unfortunately...

[jean]

6. Randi gets 4 millions internet live streamers daily - more than CNN

and MSNBC combined! Yaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhh!

She is directing us to donate to http://blackboxvoting.org AND to fax Nader to get the ball rolling on recounts

[wildflower]

9. Is there still time left to do this?

Would someone mind putting the fax number in this thread?

(I don't completely understand why we'd have to fax Nader to do this but I'm all for getting the recounts.)

-wildflower

[jean]

22. here -

Tell him you are a black box voting activist in your fax.

The fax number is 202-265-0092.

[Sydnie]

12. I had it on in the car but the signal was fading in and out

I heard the guy say something about faxing something and signing it "An Activist" or something like that but I didn't hear it all. What do they want us to fax and to whom?

[SammyWinstonJack]

10. Whoa!

[nostalgicaboutmyfutr]

11. Using Puke $$ to pay for it???

Maybe some of the Puke $$ raised for nader will pay for it!!! how sweet!

[RBHam]

14. Get over it...

Where's Kerry? Personally conceding to Bob Jones and Pat Robertson?

[itzamirakul]

17. The unwilling President

Boy! That would be something wouldn't it? We fight like crazy for this man and he turns it down even after we prove he actually WON!

[Flaxbee]

39. yeah, then we'd have President Edwards...pretty cool in

my book. If the pres. resigns, the VP gets it...

Not to give Nader more credit than he's due, but he certainly knew and paid attention to the BBV issue; perhaps this is the only reason he insisted on staying in the race, so he'd have good standing to be able to question the outcome.

[Mr X]

13. fax

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2609138

[itzamirakul]

15. I heard it on Randi's show

Just about 25 minutes ago. A man from www.blackbloxvoting.org was talking with Randi and he told her that it is Ralph Nader, not John Kerry or John Edwards who is demanding the massive recount.3000 municipalities will be recounted to investigate and see if the machine was reprogrammed to do something other than record the vote correctly. Randi said, "this is what Ralph is good at doing!" So maybe we need to thank our lucky stars that he was in the race at least partially.

They asked that we fax this number: 212-265-0092
Just put send it to "Ralph" at this number. In the body of the message, put black box voting.org and include your name. They need to get a number of these faxes as petition to get the Freedom of Information papers that she needs. This is the largest audit in history.

WOW! I had to stop to get the latest news. So much fraud is being uncovered that now the House Judiciary Committee is demanding an inquiry. (They are non-partisan). They sent Randi a letter with their demand to the GAO (gOVERNMENT aCCOUNTING oFFICE). In the Ohio district where they just found 4000 extra votes for Bush, it seems that there were only 638 registered voters.

[nostamj]

29. FYI: the "man from BBV.org" was a DUer!

Andy Stephenson is god_bush_n_cheney here on DU! a great guy and an amazing advocate (along with BevHarris!)

[ibegurpard]

16. Support this folks

Democrats can't do it. They'd be made a laughing stock. No one can attack Nader for it because he has nothing to gain. No matter how it turns out he won't have won.

[Mr X]

18. Exactly. Go fax it!

[tinrobot]

38. It's what Nader does best

He loves sticking it to the system.

This could be perfect.

[OhioChick]

19. We have to move on this......n/t

[AspenRose]

20. Nader's penance

I will NEVER forgive him for what his campaigning cost my state (NM) but if he wants to serve penance, let him.

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[pacalo]

23. It's not too much to ask for. We deserve to know that each vote

was counted properly.

Electronic voting machines without verification is just insane.

[itzamirakul]

43. House Judiciary Committee asks GAO for investigation

The Committee sent a letter to the Government Accounting Office listing all of the many instances of voter irregularities where Bush received more votes in some precincts than there were actual registered voters. In the case of the 4000 votes in Ohio for Bush, there were only 638 registered voters. Maybe this will not win the vote for Kerry - but we have a right to KNOW if there was fraud.

Also, this is proof that we need to take the election process OUT of the hands of private corporations.

[West Coast Democrat]

24. I think Nader should stay out of it--He doesn't add credibility to this

[ibegurpard]

25. On the contrary

He's the only one WITH the credibility to do it. He has nothing to gain because no matter how things turn out he has no chance of winning.

[West Coast Democrat]

26. But I don't trust Nader

[PsychoDad]

30. You have seatbelts in cars because of Nader.

And other consumer protections.

Now, I wish I had voted for him this election. At least I would know that my canidate is fighting for all the votes to be counted.

[West Coast Democrat]

35. Yes, but then he went insane....he just doesn't add credibility

[RBHam]

31. Democracy is more important than holding a grudge.

At least he's fighting for your rights. where's Kerry?

[SammyWinstonJack]

33. I trust him to get this done

It's what he does best.

[Gyre]

27. Do you have a better idea?

We're listening!

Gyre

[West Coast Democrat]

32. But I don't think the media will take it seriously if Nader is involved

and we want the media to take it seriously.

[ibegurpard]

36. They won't take it seriously if the DEMOCRATS are the ones behind it.

How are the fascists going to be able to attack Ralph Nader for sour grapes? Any discrepancies aren't going to be of a benefit to HIM.

[West Coast Democrat]

40. But Nader just looks like a crazy old man....you see my point

[AG78]

37. Did the media

take it seriously about the 2000 election?

The media, as an industry, isn't on our side any more.

[democrat_patriot]

34. OK who does? I don't hear anyone else demading a recount.

[wickywom]

28. My spider sense is tingling

Would it work?
Could it?

[petrock2004]

41. maybe it's his conscience bugging him?

lol... once again we're free to say "go ralph"

hahahaha...

irony's a bitch

[wickywom]

42. kicking

[deacon]

44. I don't care who starts the investigation or instigates the recount

as long as gets done.

"Starve The Beast"

[LiberteToujours]

45. I don't like the sounds of this

I was elated to hear about the New Hampshire recount request. It has a chance of happening. But demanding a 34 state recount is almost certainly NOT going to happen and it destroys our chances of turning up something in New Hampshire.