Need some Links...help...!

[imax2268]

I am looking for some links to info on the *'s administration trying to connect 9/11 to Iraq...I am also looking for links that contain actual quotes of him saying that...!

Can someone help me find these links...I am looking but am getting no where...

I am currently in a debate with a freeper who thinks * craps gold...and they are saying that what Bush said about Iraq and Al-Qaida working together are beginning to show true...

[lfairban]

1. How would that show that Saddam Hussein was . . .

. . . behind 911? Saddam Hussein is no longer in power, so if Al-Qaida is in Iraq it does not provide any support to that argument. The US is in Iraq, does that show the * administration was behind 911?

Al-Qaida was probably in Iraq before the war started, but there has been no compelling evidence that SH was involved in 911.

[imax2268]

2. here is what this freeper is saying...!

Check this out...

A connection in Iraq???

<snip>

The fight in Iraq is a fight against terrorism. It is not a different foe, but the same enemy that took down our towers in New York, flew a plane into the pentagon and crashed another plane with an unknown target.

[lfairban]

9. Over generalization.

Has anyone shown that any of the A-Q in Iraq were in any way connected with 911? Not to my knowledge. I am not sure what A-Q membership means today. It was the name given to a training facility in Afghanistan years ago, so that the identities of the people training there could be tracked.

They are all Moslems too, so should we round up all the Moslems and shoot them? I don't think so.

The obfuscation is so that we don't persecute the people who were really responsible for 911 because they are Bush's friends. By buying into this BS, your neo-con friend is helping the perpetrators of 911 escape justice.

[never cry wolf]

3. unfortunately

i don't believe that either whistle ass or his handles actually came out and said that there was an iraq-9/11 connection. they intimated it, stopped using the terms "al quaida" and "osama bin laden" and ofther brought up WTC in the same sentence as iraq or sadaam or would say something like "iraq, which sponsors terrorsts like the ones who destroyed the WTC..."

they also did say the there were ties between sadaam and al quaida that went back decades. what they did not say was that there was some sort of low level meeting 10 years ago and no evidence that anything ever came of it or that any subsequent meeting or cooperation occurred.

so, they did do all they could to tie the two without actually coming out with the words. ask this guy about shrub's statement that he will go after the terra-ists and anyone that harbors a terra-ist. then ask him about the 28 missing pages in the 9/11 report dealing with saudi arabia and ask him why shrub is horboring and assisting them.

[Eloriel]

4. I don't have a link, but

you can go to Bush's state of the union address and one or several others after that.

If I'm not mistaken, he never "actually" says Saddam was working with Al Qaeda. However, he mentions 9-11 and Saddam in the same breath, allowing the listener to infer there's a connection.

Eloriel

[imax2268]

5. yea...i stated that wrong...

I shouldn't have phrased it that way...but I could have sworn that I saw it somewhere...where * actually said there was connection...

maybe I'm wrong...hell...this administration has got me confused now...!

[lfairban]

10. There was a report of a meeting . . .

. . .between a prominent A-Q leader and someone from the SH government, but when the CIA checked it, there was no evidence that the meeting ever took place. They checked Visa/Passport documents, interviewed witnesses, nothing checked out.

[JaneQPublic]

6. Here's one speech:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021007-8.html

The whole speech insinuates a connection between Iraq and 9/11, and gets pretty specific here:

"We know that Iraq and the al Qaeda terrorist network share a common enemy -- the United States of America. We know that Iraq and al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade. Some al Qaeda leaders who fled Afghanistan went to Iraq. These include one very senior al Qaeda leader who received medical treatment in Baghdad this year, and who has been associated with planning for chemical and biological attacks. We've learned that Iraq has trained al Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases. And we know that after September the 11th, Saddam Hussein's regime gleefully celebrated the terrorist attacks on America."

[SeanT]

7. heh

they are all over the place man

[JaneQPublic]

8. Of course, there's always Rummy's 9/11 memo

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/04/september11/main520830.shtml

CBS News has learned that barely five hours after American Airlines Flight 77 plowed into the Pentagon, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld was telling his aides to come up with plans for striking Iraq — even though there was no evidence linking Saddam Hussein to the attacks.

That's according to notes taken by aides who were with Rumsfeld in the National Military Command Center on Sept. 11 – notes that show exactly where the road toward war with Iraq began, reports CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin.

--snip

With the intelligence all pointing toward bin Laden, Rumsfeld ordered the military to begin working on strike plans. And at 2:40 p.m., the notes quote Rumsfeld as saying he wanted "best info fast. Judge whether good enough hit S.H." – meaning Saddam Hussein – "at same time. Not only UBL" – the initials used to identify Osama bin Laden.

Now, nearly one year later, there is still very little evidence Iraq was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks. But if these notes are accurate, that didn't matter to Rumsfeld.

"Go massive," the notes quote him as saying. "Sweep it all up. Things related and not."

MORE...

[lfairban]

11. unclear if . . . the group exists or has any link to al-Qaida

The Abu Hafs el-Masri Brigades - one of three groups to claim responsibility for the attack - made its claim on a Web site, but U.S. officials said they could not authenticate it and it remained unclear if the group exists or has any link to al-Qaida. Atef was killed in a U.S. airstrike in Afghanistan in November 2001.

So is the link to al-Qaida only in the heads of the neo-cons?