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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 09:00 AM
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Is a victory for Bush a victory for Neo-Fascist America?
I was following some links on buzzflash when I came on this article that is very scary, and very real. The parallels of today’s political climate and consolidation of news, especially cable and radio has only one purpose. Control public opinion and silence opposition.

We are at the beginning of a new millennium, and I fear that we are also launching of a new America, a grim neo-fascist America. Just look at the number of arrests made during the Republican convention. There where more than a thousand arrests, many of which where never charged and held for as long as three days without a phone call. Some have even brought up the returning specter of the infamous ‘brown shirts’ gangs of the Nazi party.

In this article are the ten steps or signs we are heading to a neo-fascist state, and I fear we are very close to the ledge of no return.

http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm
Here are some excerpts.


3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The methods of choice—relentless propaganda and disinformation—were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite “spontaneous” acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other religions, secularists, homosexuals, and “terrorists.” Active opponents of these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.

6. A controlled mass media. Under some of the regimes, the mass media were under strict direct control and could be relied upon never to stray from the party line. Other regimes exercised more subtle power to ensure media orthodoxy. Methods included the control of licensing and access to resources, economic pressure, appeals to patriotism, and implied threats. The leaders of the mass media were often politically compatible with the power elite. The result was usually success in keeping the general public unaware of the regimes’ excesses.

8. Religion and ruling elite tied together. Unlike communist regimes, the fascist and protofascist regimes were never proclaimed as godless by their opponents. In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves to the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray themselves as militant defenders of that religion. The fact that the ruling elite’s behavior was incompatible with the precepts of the religion was generally swept under the rug. Propaganda kept up the illusion that the ruling elites were defenders of the faith and opponents of the “godless.” A perception was manufactured that opposing the power elite was tantamount to an attack on religion.

13. Rampant cronyism and corruption. Those in business circles and close to the power elite often used their position to enrich themselves. This corruption worked both ways; the power elite would receive financial gifts and property from the economic elite, who in turn would gain the benefit of government favoritism. Members of the power elite were in a position to obtain vast wealth from other sources as well: for example, by stealing national resources. With the national security apparatus under control and the media muzzled, this corruption was largely unconstrained and not well understood by the general population.

..and most well known to us...and accepted as a unavoidable part of the 'process' now thanks to the media.

14. Fraudulent elections. Elections in the form of plebiscites or public opinion polls were usually bogus. When actual elections with candidates were held, they would usually be perverted by the power elite to get the desired result. Common methods included maintaining control of the election machinery, intimidating and disenfranchising opposition voters, destroying or disallowing legal votes, and, as a last resort, turning to a judiciary beholden to the power elite.


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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 09:03 AM
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1. absolutely, but don't you dare call them fascists
or you will be the new "enemy".

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 09:04 AM
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2. absolutely
in fact, *'s re-election will signal the final throes of American Democracy, now replaced with a Corporate Theocracy.

And it just spirals downward from there. :cry:
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 09:05 AM
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3. Sure. To the Bushites,
majority opinion is an obstacle to get around, either through the non-democratic aspects of elections (funding, electoral college, deception) or by keeping their activities secret, or by changing the law through regulation and judicial appointments. It is profoundly anti-democratic and pro-strongman.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 09:06 AM
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4. Scare Tactics
I'm not so sure these type of scare tactics are any better when used by Democrats.

Vice President Cheney and his supporters believe that if we elect John Kerry, due to his appraoch to fighting terror, we will suffer an attack that will kill thousands. Cheney says this and may criticize him (rightly) for fear mongering.

I don't know how this argument (Voting for Bush will make us a fascist nation) is much different.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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oc2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 09:22 AM
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5. It not just a vote for Bush...
I think Bush is just a front man, a patsy, for a much much larger force that is in fact buying up the pieces of our democracy and converting it to something entirely controlled.

The fact that in last election, the guy with fewer votes won, still haunts and shadows the coming election is not to be under stated.

Perhaps saying a vote for Bush will make us a fascist nation is already a redundant statement. The media is controlled, elections are already known to have been fraudulently influenced in Florida, and now we are going to be using a black box with no 'messy' paper trails.

The argument is not one made just to vote for Kerry, but the direction that the country is headed to if Bush is re-elected seems to be a more fascist state of some sort is none the less developing here in our own back yard.
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 12:32 PM
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8. It's not a scare tactic
It's a question: should I be packing my bags?
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Zing Zing Zingbah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 12:27 PM
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6. Good article
Thanks for the link. I sent it to some of my friends and family, even my republican father-in-law. I like how the article never mentions Bush or any other American politicians in particular. It respects the intelligence of the reader because it lets the reader draw their own conclusions about current events. I think this is a far more effective way to change minds then it is to dictate to someone what you think and why you feel they should also think the same way.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 12:30 PM
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7. Yes
Bush is a Fascist and many of those that still support him are Fascists.
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