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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:22 PM
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Poll question: Will the GOP ever nominate another moderate for President?
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babylon_system Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:24 PM
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1. That would make him/her a Democrat n/t
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:27 PM
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3. I suspect the GOP might have to implode before it picks a moderate.
There are, in fact, social moderates in the Republican Party. But they're drowned out by the conservatives, and have been for many years.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:26 PM
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2. That depends, do you consider Tom Delay a "moderate"?
:crazy:
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:29 PM
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4. No reason for them to consider it
unless Bush loses and we retake the Senate and the House and DeLay is defeated by Richard Morrison.

Then they may have to do a little rethinking.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:29 PM
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5. There are too many "Repuglicans for Kerry" groups out there
for them to ignore. Putting moderates on the stage at the fascist tent meeting will not convince anyone that Bush has suddenly turned decent. If they don't figure out how to eliminate the worst of the extremism (and extremists) from the party, they risk losing their moderates completely.

They are marginalizing themselves as quickly as they can. Eventually they will have to turn away from extremism. How long that will take is anyone's guess. Their long term survival depends on it, though.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:29 PM
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6. They think Dumbyah IS a moderate.
morans.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:35 PM
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12. Dim Son....
... campaigned as a moderate. I think a lot of people, Dems and Reps alike, were surprised at how fast he made his hard right turn.

Frankly, I hope they do keep nominating wingnuts. Because we can beat them like someone who owes us money :)
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OHswingvoter Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:30 PM
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7. people say that McCain
would like to run. He would be much more moderate than the republicans that have been running since the Goldwater era. But he is still not a democrat. He may steal lots of crossover support and win though. he would be dangerous if his congress is republican they would control him. If we take the congress back, he may be ok he probably would work with us and compromise. Not as good as a democrat in office, but he would be better than most republicans.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:32 PM
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10. It was mentioned on MTP this morning that Pataki might run in '08.
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 09:33 PM by elperromagico
Would he win the nomination? Not if Bush wins this year. But if Bush goes down in flames, someone like Pataki might seem far more palatable.

I'm not sure, though; the Republicans would first have to shake off the Christian right, and they're so entrenched with that group that shaking them would be a damned difficult thing.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:49 PM
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14. Pataki might even have a chance of winning, but
you can bet that the Bush family will want to run Jebbie instead, and launch a character assassination that would make what they do to Vietnam vets seem tame in comparison.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:09 PM
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15. Pataki would never win the GOP nomination
The strength of the GOP is in the south and the west.

A northeastern pro-choice Republican will be ourside the mainstream of GOP primary voters. Even before Reagan that was true. Nelson Rockefeller was always going to win, and he never won anything outside of New York.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:20 PM
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17. But imagine what the election of 1964 would have been like
if Rockefeller had won the nomination. A far more interesting contest, to be sure; instead, it was a rout for LBJ.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:39 PM
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13. I disagree 100%.
McCain has one of the top 5 most conservative voting records in the U.S. Senate. Further to the right than Santorum. He talks a good game but he's very right wing.
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:31 PM
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8. if kerry wins
there will be a civil war in the pukester party, the old style greed heads, vs the fundies vs the unindicted neo-cons

it will be lots of fun watching the recriminations, the only down side is hil may have to wait till 2012
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:32 PM
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9. They *will* lose in Nov; and they *will* eventually have to change.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure how long it will take. Kerry will win in November, but he may take the blame for the economic collapse that is now almost inevitable -- which may cause a temporary return to insanity of the voting public.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:35 PM
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11. The party has been thouroughly
hi-jacked by the right wing fundies. They would have to move pretty far left and try to capture centrist dems. Then we could call them Dem Lites.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:18 PM
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16. If they lose big time this year
they will have to.

If the country really is more moderate than we are led to believe by the talking heads then a big GOP loss will definitely signal a return to the middle.

If they win, they'll move even farther to the Right.

MzPip
:dem:
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:42 PM
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18. Depends on how you define moderate
My sense is that the GOP will NEVER nominate a pro-choice candidate for President. The misconception is that someone like McCain is moderate. In reality, he's in line with mainstream conservative thought on the majority of issues.

I don't think the GOP would ever nominate someone who shared the views of a Lincoln Chafee or Olympia Snowe.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:47 PM
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19. I don't think there is a GOP anymore.
It's a peculiar coalition of moonies, fundies, white supremists, corporatists, fascists war hawks and some old fashioned Republicans who don't have anywhere else to go. Oh yeah and a few token minorities. Why are they in power? I think besides us taking America back, the Republicans seriously need to take their party back.
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