Dammit!!! Im sick of this... BUSH IS NOT A TEXAN!!

[TryingToWarnYou]

News programs, documentaries about Texas (like whats on Trio right this minute), etc. always say he is a Texan.

From his own goddamn bio:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/gwbbio.html

President Bush was born on July 6, 1946, in New Haven, Connecticut, and he grew up in Midland and Houston, Texas.

He is from the Northeast. Got it? He isnt from Texas..he lived here. Whoopie do.

Hell, he went to college back east. Twice.

Came to Midland to run a few businesses in the dirt. Mission Accomplished.

Im just sick of the misinformation.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. My husband is a sixth generation Texan

My neighbor was born in Texas, and our friends down the road are Texans. Sure, we all live in Arkansas now, but they are Texans and remain so. They agree with you, and can't stand having anyone call this carpetbbagger a Texan.

[VOX]

3. My dad was a Texan, born and raised, so I know a Texan when I see one...

And that SOB poseur is about as Texan as New England clam chowder.

[Florida_Geek]

2. A stupid Repug said, "Gore would have been President IF

he carried the state he was born in"

My answer was simple, Bush did not carry Conn either.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

4. Yeah, and Nixon and Reagan weren't Californians.

I understand your embarassment at having to acknowledge the Boob-in-Chief as a Texan. Being born, raised, and having spent most of my life in California (Now a proud Washingtonian) we we're burdoned with having to apologize for Nixon and Reagan to the rest of the world.

But, I'm afraid you are stuck with him...even with his carpetbag.

[pop goes the weasel]

8. What?!

You mean to say that people are actually born and raised in California? Are you sure that's legal?

[PatGund]

60. You could say that....

I'm a 5th gen native Californian, so there's a few of us around..... :-)

[maveric]

42. Nixon was a Californian. Reagan was not.

Tricky Dick was born and raised in SoCal. Weant to college at Whittier.
Reagan was from the midwest.

[mitchtv]

45. you mean 'native'Californian

Californians are not villiagers. Reagan was elected governor- He is indeed s Californian. He voted and paid taxes,and died here. This is not Texas.

[Warpy]

5. The Bushes are "Dallas" Texans, TV Texans

Bush is a Village People cowboy. We all know that. They're caricatures of Texans, all exaggerations with no nuance. They're also trash with money. We know that.

However, they're caricatures of Texans, not Californians and not even New Englanders. Perhaps it would be easier on your blood pressure if you just mentally inserted "caricature" after the word Texan when you read about any of them. "Fake" will do if you pride yourself on being plain spoken.

I'm New Englander transplanted to New Mexico, and I can tell the difference. I think most other people can, too.

[TryingToWarnYou]

6. Fine observations..thanks.

Im just embarassed and angered at the obvious pandering they are doing. I just shut off the Trio program that was on TV..it was an hour of "Bush is God" and why he is such a great guy. I should have known what it was going to be when the Brit host said he was a Bush supporter.

[Bridget Burke]

22. I believe the host of that show was Chris Hitchens....

Some of the Texas shows that Trio is running now are interesting. But a glimpse of the Hitchens countenance was enough to convince me that particular program was not for me.

Edited to add this Dallas reference. I seem to remember Molly Ivins dubbing Bush, Sr., the Cliff Barnes of Texas politics.

[neebob]

7. I want them to report that he bought that damned ranch in 1999

and built the house and borrowed the cows. Why don't they report that? I only just found out myself a couple months ago. Woulda been useful to know when I commented to my mother on his bitchin' tan, and she said, "He lives on a raaanch." Silly me!

[pop goes the weasel]

11. how could you not know?

I was yelling about that on this very board back in 2000. Other people were too. But no, they hear "Texan," and then immediately accept any bullcrap that gets pawned off on them.

Here's a hint, folks. When someone says they're from Texas, and then starts talking about his ranch and oil wells, you should know right off that he is a Capital-L Liar. Real Texans with ranches and oil wells don't feel the need to tell you about it cuz they know folks back home would say they were putting on airs. I'm living in Texas, in a town full of oil wells, and I can't tell who owns them and who doesn't. I can tell the ranchers, but only because of the layers of dust and rust on all their trucks.

[neebob]

16. I didn't join DU until about this time last year

and up to then I was pretty busy rising from the ashes of a personal misfortune, so I was mentally immersed in something else. Plus I'm not from Texas. So I didn't know about the ranch.

That personal misfortune did, however, provide me with the ability to spot a lying sack of crap very quickly, with very little background information.

[pop goes the weasel]

20. actually

I didn't mean to pick on you. Like a lot of other Texans here, I have a lot of frustration over the national media's failure to pick up on things that were obvious and were being talked about back in 2000. People with more clout than I'll ever have were jumping up and down, trying to draw attention to these things, but no, the media was too enamored of the Dime Store Cowboy and too hateful of Gore to give a listen. And when I saw Congress--full of politicians who ought to be more skilled at dealing with liars, repeatedly buy the lines they were being fed by this King of All Liars, I couldn't believe it. When people like Kerry essentially excuse their votes on the basis of "Gee, we never thought he'd lie to us," I can't help but wonder what's in the water in DC.

I'm glad you were able to get something out of your personal misfortune. A bullshit detector is a pretty nice consolation prize, though at the time you might have been willing to trade it for whatever was behind door no. 3.

[Andy_Stephenson]

53. I am from 30 miles south of Crawford.

They were literally putting up paint on the walls inaguration day.


There used to be an old house on the "Ranch"...a deserted old farm house. They remodeled it and built the big house.

[pop goes the weasel]

59. I'd like to see him in the

the "big house," all right. Lots of folks in Huntsville doing time for drug-related crime might appreciate seeing an old customer from way back.

[TryingToWarnYou]

49. No time like the present..

Collect your information and bring the subject up again. Show it to your mom. Always time for the truth.

[candy]

9. How old was he when they moved to Texas?

If he was a baby or very small child why wouldn't he consider himself a Texan?

MY mother came here from Canada as an infant and NEVER considered herself a Canadian,even though she was born there.

[Vickers]

10. Good question...but, why doesn't Jeb talk with that fake-ass accent?

Hell, I only lived in Texas about a year, but I NEVER heard anyone talk like he does.

[Warpy]

12. he spent his school years in prep school in Connecticut

He spent his college years in Connecticut and Massachusetts.

He's no Texan. He's a cartoon.

[Yupster]

46. Agree with you candy

I was born in Brooklyn and moved to Staten Island when I was two and then moved to Texas when I was 21. Now it's 26 years later.

I very much consider myself a Texan.

I sure am not a Brooklynite.

Bush moved to Texas when he was what 4? Why would he not be a Texan?

[robcon]

13. I don't care where he's from.

I don't find any positive or negative spin from where he lives, or where he was born or where he went to school. He's a retard any where you put him.

He's a transplanted Texan... I'm a transplanted New Yorker. So what?

[muchacho]

14. Damn yankees

I'm with you. I'm tired of Bush prancing about in Texas drag like some tourist. All "Yall" this and "Hee Haw" that. Silly....

He give plain talk a bad name.

All hat, no cattle...

From a third generation Texan lving in NY.

[Tuttle]

15. whatever you do, don't send him back here

reporting from Connecticut,
Tut-tut

[sofa king]

17. Sounds to me like you're sick of being painted with the poopy brush.

But hey, the consolation prize is that all of us Americans are being painted with the same stinky stripe now. You just have two of them.

[Cogito ergo doleo]

18. He's from Texas and lives in the shed

they always park the news people in front of in their reports from Crawford. Like everything republican, there is no authenticity, just selling points. That humble shed has been there for a century, unlike the president's ten thousand sq. ft. house which was built circa 1999. The GOP's branding is a cartoon image of the country: the archetypal land of perfection, America- the shining city on a hill where the important things in life will not change; the whole country is one big Lake Wobegone, where the president is infallible, and most recently, has become a Viet Nam war hero.

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

21. And the shed has permanent year-round hay bales

unlike real farms where the hay bales sometimes get eaten by the cows.

[seabeyond]

19. he moved here at two

and stayed til he was what 14. and then came back later and stayed on and off.

shrugs the shrub

[barb162]

23. some people take to their "ideas" of an area really fast

When I was in Houston on a trip a few years ago, I was meeting with this one guy for a few days. He was always wearing pointed cowboy boots, the cowboy hat (with a business suit) and had this really heavy TX accent. I thought he was a life long resident of TX. Turns out he lived in Ohio all his life and he moved to Houston area only the year before. Meanwhile, I know people who have lived in southern Tx all of their lives and when I travelled there frequently I was always meeting with them. They never had the Texas accent this guy from Ohio was putting on. Bush is like the guy from Ohio...he puts on the walk, the talk, etc., that his imagination tells him is true Texan. And it is that phony exaggeration that George does that Jeb does not do.

[kskiska]

26. Roy Rogers was from Ohio, too.

I've read where Texans used to laugh at * because he wore Bermuda shorts and loafers without socks. I guess once he decided to run for office he decided he'd better buy some cowboy boots.

[barb162]

31. no kidding

hilarious

[Citizen Daryl]

24. *psst* "Connecticut Yankee ... pass it on" n/t

[mitchtv]

40. trying to make it sound like that is something to be ashamed of

is, to put it mildly,wrong. Connecticut is a fine state, and Yankees saved our country from the treacherous South.

[Cheswick2.0]

25. he's a Texan, you're stuck with him

He spent time growing up there. He lives there now. You all elected him as Governor enabling him to run for Pres. He's yours.

I was born in TX, I was raised in NYS, I have lived in PA for most of my adult life. I am a pennsylvanian. When I lived in Florida for 11 years I was a Floridian.
Bush is a texan.

[seabeyond]

28. i beg to differ with you, literally am begging

lol lol. i have lived in texas for a decade and half, grew up in calif adn born in az. still see self as calif or arizonian for that matter, never never thirty years down the road will i be a texan

but............i do agree not gonna have issue bushie boy being called a texan. 2-14 and back again, wont argue. though truly, being afraid of horses, certainly not the definition and projection of a true texan. the honor and nonesty kinda texan, the integrity kinds texan. that i am seeing less of lately, cause bushie boy is creating the yukky kinda texan. and delay, and halliburton and vet boys............thinking maybe the good ole boys, the true conservative, the rancher,.......oughta be gettin a bit pissed by now. they dont like these pretty boy texans any more than this califorian

[mitchtv]

37. it sure makes texans sound insular, and almost tribal

rather unfriendly sounding people, sure glad I'm a NY yankee in Calif, or as I call it, a Californian

[Bucky]

48. Damn you for your accuracy

I'm a Texan. Tell me I'm not and I'll kick your backquarters till they're backnickels. I was born in New Orleans, but in my heart I'm a Texas. Bush is a Texan too, even if he doesn't have a heart. Or a brain. Or courage. Good God, he's a one-man-Oz!!

[TryingToWarnYou]

50. He lives in Washington D.C. now, so by your reasoning, he is from there.

:-)

[October]

58. Well...40% of his time

is still on the ranch...

[givemebackmycountry]

27. I ask you this

WHAT kind of self-respecting TEXAN is afraid of horses?
He's a TEXAN like I'm from Lithuania.

[A_Possum]

29. My family homesteaded in Midland Co

My great-grandfather and great-uncles and great-aunts ate dust and raised cattle long before the oil.

George Bush is no Texan. But Texans are very proud people, and they've adopted him as an icon. (Including some in my family, to my disgust.)

The WORST thing * has done, the WORST, as far as Texans are concerned, was to get family farms and property in Arlington condemened so that he could build his **cking stadium and get rich off the commercial property around it. My own family has had property condemned in Dallas County (for better reasons, frankly--roads) and they fought it tooth and nail. The land is EVERYTHING to a real Texas family. You don't sell it and you don't let it go.

But what Bush did doesn't get coverage in Texas so my family doesn't realize Bush would have done 'em even worse.

To be fair, Kerry didn't exactly grow up in Massachusetts either--he moved in and out of it many times--but the difference is, he doesn't put on airs and pretend he did.

The "ranch" was just the last straw for me, back in 2000. I never paid any attention to an election before, but when I realized that Bush had kicked out real Texas families to make a buck, and then gone and bought this "ranch" (and I'm convinced the Crawford property was most likely a distress sale by some family who couldn't pay inheritance taxes--I'd like to see some facts about that), I could feel nothing but disdain. It's been downhill ever since.

[JudgeSmales]

30. I know plenty of people that move to other states and are proud of

where they live. I don't think it really matters where the Bastard is from originally. Seems trivial. Are you saying that African Americans are not American now? I know it is a far fetched analogy but you get the point. My friend moved to this town when he was young. He is proud to live here. I call him a Charlestonian even though he wasn't born here. Stop picking at simple shit. The man is using God as an adviser. Lets talk about that. Not what states he came out of the shoot in.

[TryingToWarnYou]

51. Excellent points and I agree.

I got to thinking about it last night and if I was to run for office, they would call me a Texan even though I was born in Washington State. I have lived in Texas all of my life (with the exception of the first couple of months of life where I didnt have much say) and I consider myself a very proud Texan. I certainly cannot hold something against him that I myself would be.

Ive come to the conclusion that like many things in his life, this is another "lucky break" that came his way. He is milking his childhood homestate for all its worth and hey, if folks buy that image, well thats ok too.

[barb162]

32. how did Bush win against ann richards????

I really liked her.

[montieg]

55. Research Rove's dirty

tricks, especially her 'substance abuse'

[bobbieinok]

33. didn't Poppy run for the House or Senate from TX and get badly

beaten because 'he wasn't TX'?

Didn't Bushes move to TX because they couldn't make it politically or financially in CT?

I've heard brief bits of radio preachers who I first think are aWol. Maybe it's the 'christian base of radio and TV land' that the accent is really supposed to appeal to.

[CaTeacher]

34. this is ridiculous.

We have such a highly mobile society--that most people just don't tend to stay in one place for generations and generations anymore.

I moved every couple of years when I was growing up--and I have never had anyplace in the world that felt like home to me. If I ever find a place that feels like "home" I will immediately adopt it as my own.

Where you are born is not necessarily your "home" forever--I have no ties whatsoever to the place I was born other than being born there. (I don't remember the place--my family was only there a few weeks, I have no family there, I have never been back since I was 6 weeks old, etc etc)

Home is wherever you make it. That goes for Bush, Hillary Clinton, Reagan and whoever. As far as I am concerned--if he pays taxes in Texas--then he can call himself a Texan. Of course that doesn't mean that Texans like or accept him--anymore than it means that all Californians liked or accepted Reagan (but I never questioned the fact that he had made Ca his home--and we were stuck with him--after all--our state had elected him governor--just as Texas did for Bush).

Hey--if the people of a state elect you governor--I guess that you have been chosen by them to represent that state--whether you were born there or not. No one calls Arnold a carpetbagger. (I have said some highly critical things--but I do accept his right to call this state his home.)

[mitchtv]

35. My sentiments exactly

he was elected governor. I vote,live,pay taxes in Calif. If it took being native born, there would be very few Californians. That still doen't sto me from being a New Yorker when I am there.( Cause I kno and love my native state , too.)

[Lisa]

36. during his Congressional run he tried to imply he was born in Texas ...

His opponent called him on it.

I've noticed that Bush is one of the few high-profile politicians who doesn't list his birthplace in "Who's Who in America". It's taken him so much time and money to erase his Connecticut past from people's memories, no wonder he makes such a secret out of it.

[mitchtv]

39. i would certainly not be ashamed of Connecticut

A beautiful, proud state, one of our founding states.

[Lisa]

43. exactly ...

Plenty of people have no hesitation in saying that they feel loyalties to multiple locations. As was mentioned earlier, it's now more the exception than the rule, to live only in one state or province all your life. In fact, national politicians frequently call on any type of connection to other places -- based on birth, family background, schooling, or employment. (Clinton used to joke about stretching the links, "my wife's second cousin used to own a farm around here ...", etc.)

Bush has gone to school at Harvard and Yale, and held summer jobs in Arizona and Alaska, and his family has had a house in Maine for generations. Yet he rarely "talks up" his experiences outside of Texas. That, to me, is more troubling than his put-on accent and pseudo-cowboy clothing. Could it be that he's anxious to avoid any question of what he did during his National Guard days, with ties to Alabama, Florida, etc.?

For someone who's supposedly as "friendly" and "charming" as Bush is, whose handlers claim that he doesn't fit the stereotype of being ignorant and incurious about other places -- I think it's weird that he clings so stubbornly to a one-dimensional Texas caricature. (I know plenty of Texans who admit to coming from other states. Even Fox's "King of the Hill" made fun of Texas-centric attitudes, as in the episode where Hank learns he was born in New York!)

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[Bucky]

47. Dammit, don't you start your crazy talk with me, Grov!!

I will take your ass out, bucket-head.

[wurzel]

41. Only Texas is big enough to hold all his lies.

Connecticut sure isn't.

[JerseygirlCT]

44. Aw no you don't! Don't blame him on us!

LOL. We don't want to claim him, either!

[Cronus Protagonist]

52. I made his "New England" background very clear in his resume

http://cronus.com/bushresume

SHOVE IT! - Drop Bush Not Bombs! - Hero Kerry AWOL Bush
http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

[Zero Gravitas]

54. who cares?

Being from Texas is not a plus in my book. Wheter he's from Texas, Maine or anywhere else he's still a coward, is deeply ignorant and completely unfit for any public office.

[October]

56. So...by this logic...

Clinton and Gore were educated in the Northeast --

Does this make them Yankees???? We'll take 'em.

[Ron Green]

57. His fake identity of a "Texan" suits perfectly his tinhorn swagger...

As a 4th-generation Texan (who moved out of the state after the son of a bitch was elected Governor), I knew many fratboy types whose jingoism and xenophobia was finely honed during their high school and college years. Texas is, of course, too big a place to be contained within one cultural stereotype, but the myths of independence and magnanimity are a perfect skin for those being groomed to be captains of commerce. Ann Richards is a real Texan, and so are Henry Gonzalez and Sissy Farenthold and Jim Hightower. They've always had to struggle against type in order to brighten their corners of the world.