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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:08 PM
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what's the greater health risk: smoking or obesity?
any DUers out there with pertinent medical knowledge?
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:19 PM
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1. c'mon, people. nobody knows anything?
or are you all asleep.
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MFUSA Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:46 PM
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8. Try this link
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Kinkistyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:24 PM
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2. I vote inhaling toxic fumes.
over being abundantly well-fed. But everyone's different. Best to avoid both.
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MFUSA Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:30 PM
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3. Hey JibJab
http://www.quitsmoking.com/syas.htm
This is a wonderful support message board.


http://www.whyquit.com/WhatsNew.html

Whyquit has any health related article you would need on this subject.
Good luck my friend



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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:31 PM
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4. thanks
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 12:03 AM
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12. Here's another one.. a heavier traffic site..
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:39 PM
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5. Roughly the same. (Smoking a little worse.)
No links, just my impression of recent news items
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blackcat77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:41 PM
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6. I used to be skinny and smoke, now I don't smoke and I'm fat
And I didn't die either way... :eyes:
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:43 PM
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7. obesity can lead to adult onset diabetes and other health problems
we all know what smoking does. my question was, is there a way to tell if either is worse?
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MFUSA Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:48 PM
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10. According to these articles
and Medical Science, YES smoking is worse.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 12:41 AM
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13. No, genetic tendency to Type II can lead to obesity
You have it ass backwards.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 04:36 AM
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16. That's not true.
My mother, along with all her sisters, had Type II diabetes, and not one of them was fat. I have that tendency also, as the doctor told me I am pre-diabetic and I am not fat.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:54 PM
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17. That's because you have a different form of the disease
If you are insulin resistant, and your response to that is to compensate by ramping up insulin production to really high levels, this promotes weight gain.

If you don't compensate for resistance that way, you don't gain weight. That's about 10% of Type IIs, though.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:48 PM
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9. both equally increase chances of heart attack
then each of the two create their own increase in chance of other disease. they are equally unhealthy.

the most unhealthy...............judgement, wink
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-16-04 11:53 PM
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11. depends what you mean
for individuals or for societies? for individuals again it depends - smoking one ciggie a week is probably better for you than being heavilly overweight, smoking a pack a day is worse for you than being a few kilos overweight.

Societies (in the western developed nations) probably have more dramas long term with obesity - taxes on cigarettes atleast help to offset slightly the cost of treatment for smoking related diseases whereas there is no similar "sin" tax on food stuffs.

The developing world has higher proportions of smokers (and less obesity) so it's a different kettle of fish there.

There is also the problem of determining whether someone's lung cancer (for example) is a result of them having smoked at some point in their life of a result of living next to a busy six lane highway.

It's not the sort of question that's readilly answered
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 01:02 AM
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14. STRESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS n/t
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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 03:03 AM
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15. As a former fat smoker,
I posed this question to my doctor several years ago. He said both are bad, but if you had to choose, it's better to be a fat non-smoker than a skinny smoker. I've been a fat non-smoker for 3 years now, and I think I may be ready to tackle the food addiction now.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:56 PM
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18. bushgang whistleblower
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TheGreatestShow Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 10:07 PM
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19. smoking
To the individual smoking is worse because of the boat loads of carcinogens, but as a society obesity is worse. they have even taken steps to decrease obesity in my school district
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ChocolateSaltyBalls Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 10:18 PM
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20. Smoking.............
is the single worst thing one can do to one's self.

Period.
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 10:26 PM
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21. Don't care as long as I'm out of here
before Alzheimer's hits.
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