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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:17 PM
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"Please don't kill me. Please don't kill me."
That was George W. Bush mocking Karla Faye Tucker as she was being executed when he was governor of Texas.

Nothing more needs to be said to understand this man's character, or lack thereof.

As Molly Ivins (a dyed in the wool Texas columnist) said, "If everyone had read 'Shrub,' I wouldn't have had to write 'Bushwhacked.'"

The White House is currently occupied by a malignant disease. The cure is available to us November 2nd. And we're going to need a landslide to make sure these creatures can't steal it again.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:19 PM
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1. Is there video of this?
I'd like to see it, if it's available. I've seen him quoted, and it's clearly despicable, but there's no substitute for hearing it come out of his own mouth.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:21 PM
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2. No video
it was from a magazine article written by Tucker Carlson. As far as I know, the interview wasn't filmed.
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:24 PM
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3. It was an interview given to a magazine reporter
so no video probably exists, but Bush never had a problem with the reporter's veracity.
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Kurt Remarque Donating Member (709 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:32 PM
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6. it was in the first issue of "talk" magazine
not sure who wrote it but they were traveling with the campaign
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:55 PM
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8. Believe it or not, Tucker Carlson wrote that piece.
And he caught serious hell from the Bushies for daring to show the chimp's true colors.

You'd think the boy would learn....
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:58 PM
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11. Yes He Did, Shakepeare!
And Tucker even mimicked Bush mimicking her.

Glad to see others remember.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 07:30 PM
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17. Would that do for ad footage?
Tucker mimicking Bush mimicking Karla Faye...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 07:38 PM
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19. Yes, it would be great if we could find it.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 03:29 AM
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25. Yeah, wouldn't that be great - Tucker Carlson mimicking Karla Raye to the
Chimp as he threw the switch and said adios to her....Wasn't she also a good Christian born again? You'd think that would mean something to him?

Hi Swamp'R! :hi: Long time no "C" .....was in Seattle this weekend and very busy....wasn't able to log on to the DU....
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 05:28 AM
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27. Oi Pachamama
Bush ain't no X-Tian. He's an alien lizard posing as a Texan. These alien lizards enjoy killing humans.

How was Seattle?
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:24 PM
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30. Seattle was great...saw friends, talked Politics & had some fun....
I'm glad to say that all my friends up in Seattle are really active in getting that alien lizard posing as a texan sent back to the hole he crawled out of....Sadly, when you cut their tail off, it grows back....

It's amazing...I've never seen people so mobilized and opposed to anyone....this far surpasses the GOP's hatred and mobilization against the Clintons....People who never have cared about politics can't talk about anything else...people who have never given a dime to a politician or campaign are giving as much as possible, even if they are hurting financially...

Good news for Kerry - Bad news for Dimwit....
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:27 PM
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4. a colleague was most upset about this; wrote letters, etc
Now is a die-hard, religious right supporter of W, Ashcroft, et al.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:29 PM
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5. The actual account is actually more disturbing.
First off, Karla Faye Tucker was already dead when Bush made the mocking "Please don't kill me" speech to Tucker Carlson. If I recall correctly, Carlson asked Bush if he had seen a particular interview with Tucker prior to her execution. That led to Bush producing the mocking imitation. Carlson apparently was so shocked by this behavior on Bush's part that the latter abruptly changed gears, obviously realizing he'd gone too far even for Carlson.

It gets worse. In the interview in question, Karla Faye Tucker did not utter those words, at least according to my sources. In other words, Bush made the whole speech up.

No one's saying Karla Faye Tucker didn't commit a brutal murder. But she had apparently not only experienced spiritual conversion but also reformed while in prison, and even right-wing fundamentalist preachers were calling for her sentence to be commuted to life in prison without parole, in order that she might be able to assist in the rehabilitation of other inmates.

Bush, in the meantime, goes about saying Jesus changed his heart. But he certainly looks like the same vindictive sort he was before his much lauded conversion..
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:51 PM
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7. Shrub's ALWAYS been a sneaky little prick...
...but NOW he's a sneaky little prick with religion.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:57 PM
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9. A sneaky little prick who SAYS he has religion
A true Christain wouldn't have such bloodlust
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:34 AM
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23. Amen all over the place, brother pduck.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 06:11 PM
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12. Thanks for the specifics
Jeeez, it really would be tough to find a more degenerate human being than George W. Bush.

I don't remember who said, "To those whom much is given, much is expected." Evidently, Bush really does think he rules by "the divine right of kings."

What a swine.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 06:49 PM
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14. Bush thinks God died and left him in charge
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:14 AM
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29. John Kennedy
said "to those whom much is given, much is expected."
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Snoggera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 05:58 PM
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10. I wonder if Pickle's ex-boyfriend had the time to say that
before she ran him over with her car.

Maybe it's some kind of family inside joke.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 06:35 PM
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13. Hate to be LOL at a tragedy, but can't help it.
Edited on Mon Aug-09-04 06:36 PM by Cyrano
I guess that puts me in the Bush league. (Sorry, couldn't resist the pun.)
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 07:35 PM
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18. Ex-boyfriend.????
:wow:
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 07:49 PM
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20. She killed him while drunk driving.
Sorry, but I don't know all the details.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 08:00 PM
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22. just Google it
Laura Bush auto accident
tons of stuff, except of course a "missing" police report.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 07:02 PM
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15. The worst part of the Karla Faye Tucker story is how Bush tortured her
Apparently, those around Bush KNEW he wasn't going to pardon her. He could have made that position very clear days before. But it has been reported that Bush waited until the 6:00 pm prime time newscast the evening of the execution to announce his refusal of the pardon, knowing Tucker was then being prepared for death, being strapped to a gurney still having hope about surviving in the moments before she died. Bush waited until the last minute for a photo-op sound byte and was accused in Texas of not only exploiting the Karla Faye Tucker incident for political grandstanding, but also of sadistically torturing this woman.

Even Evangelical Christian whacko Gary Bauer criticized Bush on this:
"I think it is nothing short of unbelievable that the governor of a major state running for president thought it was acceptable to mock a woman he decided to put to death."
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 07:05 PM
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16. Our re-born nitwit* needs to re-read certain passages of the Bible...
But he hasn't the emotional or intelligence capacity to learn from it.

He's a gigantic mouth on legs, nothing more.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-04 07:51 PM
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21. I swear
I actually saw Bush say this on a newscast.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 02:42 AM
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24. One thing
I never understood was why Bush was criticized more for this case than the hundreds of others that were executed under his watch.

To me I'm kinda reassured that she was executed. I know this may sound bizarre, but why do I have to feel more sorry for one that supposedly had a "spritual revelation". So, can anyone murder someone and then claim to be Christian and then get out of it?

I say this as someone that believes the DP is wrong, but I'm not feeling any more sorry for Carla Fay or Mumia than the hundreds of others on death row. Maybe I'm just not into the whole "poster boy" cases. I'm more concerned about the fact that he decided not to commute the death sentence of the man that had only ONE eyewitness witnessing the shooting.



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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 03:50 AM
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26. Karla Faye was a pretty white Christian woman.
It was pointed out at the time that other convicted murderers had been sincerely "saved" but they didn't fit into the right categories. The "poster girl" thing is just the way humans work. I'm against the death penalty myself.

I don't think that anybody serving life in prison is "getting out" of anything. The Texas Legislature has tried to add "life without parole" as an allowable sentence; it failed because such a sentence would decrease the number of executions. In reality, parole for murder would only be offered after many years & not be guaranteed, but this fact is kept from juries. They are allowed to think that the only alternative to letting some extremely bad people out on the streets in a few years is lethal injection.

And we've had millionaires commit murder in Texas--and not even see the inside of a prison.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-04 07:03 AM
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28. Presidential Character.......
This artical should have gotten more circulation. The whole "dry drunk" thing bugs me. It's worse than that. It started long before he hit the booze.....

"Bush told the audience and the Provo Valley Herald that even though George W. Bush is president, Neil Bush can still see in him the 16-year-old who gave him and his younger brother 10 seconds to start running down the hall before firing BB pellets at them.

Bush said he was an easy target, but said it was a learning experience.

"He is a man of faith," Bush added."

http://www.makethemaccountable.com/articles/Presidential_Brother_Explains_Presidential_Character.htm
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